Growing conditions forum: Will it root of all the leaves are lost?

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Imagemelann
Jul 11, 2013 4:51 PM CST
Name: Melissa Larson
DFW, Texas
I ordered a few cuttings from the Aleya Garden & all of the cuttings showed up last week looking great. I did the water soak & set them up with rooting hormone & set them up with the hydroton to root. Most of the cuttings still look good, but 2 of them are not. Specifically the H. Praetorii & H, Elliptica Philippines. The Pretorii is down to one leaf which looks like it might fall off at any time and the Elliptica lost all of it's leaves.

So my question is should I consider them lost or is there a possibility they will recover still?
ImageJulieK
Jul 11, 2013 11:58 PM CST
Name: Julie Kennedy
UK
Hi Melissa,

Both praetorii and elliptica are notoriously bad travellers, so no surprise that those are the ones in bad shape I'm afraid.

They both have a chance if the stem is still green though. Keep them warm and humid, and keep your fingers crossed!!
Good luck!, and let us know what else you got... Ears perked up!
Imagemelann
Jul 12, 2013 1:45 PM CST
Name: Melissa Larson
DFW, Texas
Thanks Julie!!! You really brightened my day telling me there is hope. Hurray!
Here's the list of what else was in the order:
H. Bella
H. Benguetensis
H. Caudata Sumatra (also not very happy right now, but at least it still has leaves)
H. Diversifolia
H. Filiformis
H. Imperialis (pink)
H. Cumingiana
H. Forbesii
H. Erythrostemma
H. Rubida PNG4
H. Nicholsoniae
H. Rotundiflora
H. CV Noelle
H. Kenejiana
H. Buottii
H. Chlorantha
H. Fraterna
H. Tomataensis
H. Philippines
H. Serpens
H. Kerrii

Yeah, I know...I went a little crazy, but this was only about half of what was on the order before I went back through it & got rid of a few. I do have to leave some stuff to buy next year. Whistling LOL
ImageJulieK
Jul 12, 2013 3:41 PM CST
Name: Julie Kennedy
UK
Blimey! What a haul!!!
Fingers crossed that they all survive.
Keep us posted!
Imagecpawl
Jul 12, 2013 6:16 PM CST
Name: cindy
Delta, BC,Canada
Hi
I have found praetorii super easy to root.I have had a cuttings arrive with no leaves and it still roots with warmth and humidity.
Now elliptica is very sensitive and when it has arrived with no leaves it almost always rots.
plumania
Jul 12, 2013 7:51 PM CST
Name: Alka
South Florida
Nice selection. Now , you got to root them all and baby them until they get going. Good luck.
AlohaHoya
Jul 12, 2013 10:46 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
'Wow...what a great order. The only advice I would add would be to give them lots of fresh air...breezes...outside in the shade if possible and if it is humid...they come from being outside with airflow and that is (IMHO) critical.... Let us know how it goes...
Leap. The net will appear.
Imagemelann
Jul 13, 2013 8:48 PM CST
Name: Melissa Larson
DFW, Texas
I'll Keep you posted, thanks for the tips.
Imagemelann
Jul 17, 2013 8:08 PM CST
Name: Melissa Larson
DFW, Texas
So I'm feeling like a bad Hoya mommy tonight. I lost H. Elliptica & H. Buottii today Grumbling
The good news is H. Praetorii is still green & I am feeling hopeful.
AlohaHoya
Jul 17, 2013 9:13 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
Don't beat yourself up...H. elliptica is one of the MOST difficult Hoyas to grow...few can do it!!!
Leap. The net will appear.
Imagemelann
Jul 18, 2013 4:50 PM CST
Name: Melissa Larson
DFW, Texas
Thanks Carol. I know I shouldn't be too upset as I still have several that are doing well. I do think I'll replace what I've lost next year when I expand again & hopefully I'll have better luck.
Also, I've noticed my Chinghungensis is covered in peduncles, so I'm really hoping I'll have flowers soon.
ImageJulieK
Jul 19, 2013 12:33 PM CST
Name: Julie Kennedy
UK
melann wrote:So I'm feeling like a bad Hoya mommy tonight. I lost H. Elliptica & H. Buottii today Grumbling


Its happened to us all Melissa...don't feel too bad. Group hug
Imagemelann
Jul 19, 2013 4:17 PM CST
Name: Melissa Larson
DFW, Texas
Thanks Julie, I do know it happens & I will try again.
Imagemelann
Jul 20, 2013 1:27 PM CST
Name: Melissa Larson
DFW, Texas
H. Fraterna is lost today Angry
But on the brighter side I found new growth on H. Praetorii today. Big Grin
And everything else still seems to be doing ok
ImageGreenToe
Oct 26, 2013 12:05 AM CST
Name: Eugene
zone 7b New York City
melann wrote:I lost H. Elliptica & H. Buottii today Grumbling
...
H. Fraterna is lost today Angry

Sorry you lost them, Melissa. For the sake of sharing experiences and learning, how/why did you lose those? I am rooting about a dozen different cuttings right now and ~20 more are coming in the mail.
AlohaHoya
Oct 26, 2013 10:10 AM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
I find that rooting when the leaves drop can be done. My only suggestion for rooting right now is to keep them under lights for at least 14 hours... When the days get shorter plants automatically slow down their systems... Except for dire emergencies, I don't root between Nov-Feb as I only have natural light to work with....
Leap. The net will appear.
Imagemelann
Nov 3, 2013 7:47 PM CST
Name: Melissa Larson
DFW, Texas
Sorry GreenToe, I just saw your question. I'm really unsure where I went wrong with these. I had an order of 23 cuttings & lost 3 total. All of the others took off and did just fine. The only thing I can figure out is the ones I lost were just harder to grow.
AlohaHoya
Nov 3, 2013 10:40 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
Melann...as a grower I would like to offer this suggestion...for what it is worth-

There are so many growers/suppliers in the USA (without the shipping $$$ and the shipping time) to buy cuttings from, why don't you consider buying some of the more usual cuttings from local suppliers and the exotic ones from foreign suppliers...if you can't get them locally. With a local supplier you have more of a chance of getting a cutting that has been raised in an environment more compatible with yours: shipping from a tropical environment, dAAAAAYs in the mail to an indoor environment is a shock toplants... not only do they have to root, but they have to root in totally foreign circumstances. Local growers are available and willing to help you thru problems....

Often, ordering from overseas, you are also introducing foreign pathogens...

I am not dissing ordering from foreign sellers...but sometimes it can be a waste of $$$ and energy....ALL things are NOT equal.

I understand that it is exotic and exciting to receive a box from overseas where Hoyas grow...but sometimes it is a lot of hype ... and you might be better off ordering from closer to home....
Leap. The net will appear.
Imagemelann
Nov 4, 2013 8:17 PM CST
Name: Melissa Larson
DFW, Texas
thanks for the input Carol, I do order most of my Hoyas local. The main reason I did this order was because my mom was after one I could not find locally & I ordered a few at the time to offset the cost of shipping.
AlohaHoya
Nov 4, 2013 10:42 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
Thumbs up
Leap. The net will appear.

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