Identification forum: Hoya cembra

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Imageyaramolong
Oct 16, 2013 2:54 PM CST
Name: dorothy green
hawaii
In Heaven there is no beer, that is

At 07:48 10/16/2013, you wrote:

This is a question in a group...and I think it's a good question....

Basically: Is there a 'real' H. cembra? Is the plant we have in circulation as H. cembra/H. odorata really H. odorata?

I remember that RDK published H. cembra from an unpublished herbarium sheet....but has it ever been found?


Here's the question

Terribly confused about Hoya cembra (or cembrae) and Hoya odorata.. I've read publications about there is no hoya odorata (cause it's extinct) and all the hoya odorata's actually are cembra. And I've read another publications that say cembra created from an unpublished hoya, called hoya leucantha. So all the Hoya odorata we have, are true odorata. OMG!!
From: ted green
Subject: Re: Could you answer this?
Cc: dale



I think that David had his hand in this argument. The true H cembra (that looks like Schlechter's sheet) has never been re-collected - or a least not recognized a such - and I am continually looking for it. I have never been to the Alag River on Mindoro. I was hoping that George ad it.

Our odorata (that meets the description) does not meet the description of H. leucantha (Moore) (from Indonesia ) nor the plant in the herbarium sheet with the untenable name leucantha. I think that this is what David was talking about but he was wrong in saying that our odorata is cembra.

Ted


What's the truth?
Dorothy.
Imageyaramolong
Oct 16, 2013 3:01 PM CST
Name: dorothy green
hawaii
In Heaven there is no beer, that is
Here is a picture of the sheet from which Hoya cembra was named. This is not the true H.leucantha (Moore)Thumb of 2013-10-16/yaramolong/00a9ce
Dorothy.
ImageVineMaster
Oct 18, 2013 1:16 PM CST
Name: Jimmy
Raleigh NC
Hi! I recently ordered one of these from Logee's..Fragrant Wax Plant (Hoya odorata) I wonder what kind of hoya it will be? Here is a link to their site and a pic for reference.
http://www.logees.com/Fragrant-Wax-Plant/productinfo/R1917-2...
AlohaHoya
Oct 20, 2013 10:45 AM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
Jimmy...it is H. odorata. H. cembra has not been found.

(Explanation: some people travel out into the wilderness, find a hoya, look for an identification and if they find NOTHING that shows the hoya they found has been published, they do the research and name it and publish it. OTHERS look thru Unpublished material and they find an interesting hoya with an Herbarium Sheet already made and the write up done correctly, they name it and publish it. Schlecter has many many collections from his travels, some of which have been written up but never published. The work/research involved with both processes is about the same.)

Hope this helps.
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ImageVineMaster
Oct 21, 2013 7:31 PM CST
Name: Jimmy
Raleigh NC
Ahh cool...I hope its easy to grow!I was gonna keep it in a west window in my bedroom.I hear the flowers are around 20mm round...That would be nice!
AlohaHoya
Oct 21, 2013 10:20 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
Should do well. Mine is all budding up to bloom and the fragrance is really one of the best!!!!!
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plumania
Oct 23, 2013 4:06 AM CST
Name: Alka
South Florida
Please, post picture when you guys get it ....I am curious to see how big their plant is.

I love the scent of odorata but it does not grow too well for me for some reason.
I have 2 little cuttings in 2 pots now and hope they bud up.
I find it takes a while to root also when you grow from cutting.
ImageVineMaster
Oct 23, 2013 4:43 PM CST
Name: Jimmy
Raleigh NC
OK will do!I should get the plants by Friday.They just shipped today.I ordered three hoyas from Kartuz and just got them today.They went out Monday.Not bad for going from Cali to NC!I ordered hoya paziae from them.Looks great..i'll post a pic of it as well.
AlohaHoya
Oct 23, 2013 10:38 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
Jimmy...your H. paziae...is it the new collection from Ted Green...or is it the H. cv. Iris Marie which is what the previous H. paziae has turned out to be. I'm not trying to rain on any parades...but thought you might like to know...
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ImageVineMaster
Oct 24, 2013 4:25 PM CST
Name: Jimmy
Raleigh NC
Hi...I bought it from Kartuz greenhouses..Looks nice. here is the link http://www.kartuz.com/pc/51739/3HOY1/Hoya paziae.html
AlohaHoya
Oct 24, 2013 11:01 PM CST
Name: Carol Noel
Hawaii (near Hilo)
It's all about choices.
How long ago did you get it? I am going to speculate that it is H. cv. Iris Marie....
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ImageVineMaster
Oct 25, 2013 2:22 PM CST
Name: Jimmy
Raleigh NC
Hi Carol...you are probably right.I checked out Teds site,and he states that paziae has no scent,but Kartuz site had it as fragranted.If the flowers look almost the same,I'd rather have the one that smells nice!lol

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