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luvsgrtdanes
Jul 24, 2011 9:25 AM CST
Name: Ronnie
Southeastern PA~Zone 6
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We came from here http://cubits.org/MidAtlanticMusings/thread/view/59123/

Please join in and tell us about the bugs and insects you have in your area. We love to see photos especially of the "pretty" ones Big Grin
Great place for IDs too, lots of knowledgeable members here to help out.

Monarch Butterfly Courtesy of Luvsgreatdanes/Ronnie
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It happens in a flash, but the memory of it last forever. It can not be borrowed or stolen, and it is of no earthly good until it is given away. So if in your hurry you meet someone who is too weary to smile, leave him one of yours, for no one needs a smile quite as much as he who has none to give...

Imagestormyla
Jul 24, 2011 11:22 AM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
Thanks Ronnie! Sheryl, I put an article on companion plantings on our edibles sticky thread.

http://cubits.org/MidAtlanticMusings/thread/view/59366/
ImageJaeRae
Jul 24, 2011 11:28 AM CST
Name: Jamie R
Zone 5, WI
save the rainforest & habitat
Wonderful Monarch photo Ronnie!!!

Stormy no, they didn't say 'why' but they were not talking about companion, they were talking rotation. My speculation was related to your comment that they may attract insects detrimental to tomatoes, so thinking 'rotation' might suggest that they leave eggs behind that would bother tomatoes planted alone the next season.

I always companion basil and tomatoes along with peppers and they do beautifully together: in the garden and in the kitchen too!
Woman on the eastbound train
...........................................Je Suis Désolé.
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ImageJaeRae
Jul 24, 2011 11:30 AM CST
Name: Jamie R
Zone 5, WI
save the rainforest & habitat
Whoops! Do-si-doed! A new place for such discussion! thanks!
Woman on the eastbound train
...........................................Je Suis Désolé.
(also a mule lovin', Charley huggin' girl)
Imagestormyla
Jul 24, 2011 11:37 AM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
No Jae. The eggs that I was referring to are for beneficial wasps that are parasites of the tomato hornworm.
ImageJaeRae
Jul 24, 2011 11:41 AM CST
Name: Jamie R
Zone 5, WI
save the rainforest & habitat
Oh...I wasn't sure what you meant: well, I really don't know WHY that was stated. It surprised me and there was no explanation in the article.
Woman on the eastbound train
...........................................Je Suis Désolé.
(also a mule lovin', Charley huggin' girl)
Imagestormyla
Jul 24, 2011 11:43 AM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
Let me see if I can find you a photo of one who has done their work.
Imagestormyla
Jul 24, 2011 11:47 AM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
OK Here's one still living with the eggs growing through it.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.gardengrapevi...

Here's one after the eggs have done their job.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.harpercollege...

ImageJaeRae
Jul 24, 2011 11:51 AM CST
Name: Jamie R
Zone 5, WI
save the rainforest & habitat
The links just take me to the google search page and the full addresses don't show up here....I'm stuck, can you get the 'http' (s) w/o the google preface?
Woman on the eastbound train
...........................................Je Suis Désolé.
(also a mule lovin', Charley huggin' girl)
Imagestormyla
Jul 24, 2011 11:53 AM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
Does this work jae?

http://www.google.com/search?q=tomato hornworm wasp eggs ima...


Imagestormyla
Jul 24, 2011 11:56 AM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
Yup,it takes me right there.

This morning I went to transplant my nasturtium seedlings only to find that some small green caterpillar had eaten every single one!!!! Grumbling Grumbling Grumbling

Imagestormyla
Jul 24, 2011 11:59 AM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
OK Here's an article that tells you what herbs to plant to attract the wasps and Basil isn't one of them.

http://ezinearticles.com/?Tomato-Growing---How-to-Stop-Tomat...
ImageJaeRae
Jul 24, 2011 12:32 PM CST
Name: Jamie R
Zone 5, WI
save the rainforest & habitat
Yep, works! Totally ugly! Never had had the problem.

Nice of you to feed the green caterpillars!
Woman on the eastbound train
...........................................Je Suis Désolé.
(also a mule lovin', Charley huggin' girl)
ImageJaeRae
Jul 24, 2011 12:52 PM CST
Name: Jamie R
Zone 5, WI
save the rainforest & habitat
I think I figured out why I read that tomatoes and basil were not good plants to rotate in the same location. Digging back in my brain, I think I was reading (to start) about Japanese beetles and it was adjunct in that BOTH attract Japanese beetles as well as other similar pests so rotation would, rather than serve it's purpose, exacerbate the soil and pest condition.
Woman on the eastbound train
...........................................Je Suis Désolé.
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Imagesallyg
Jul 24, 2011 2:11 PM CST
Name: Sally
central Maryland
slef employed writier
Stormy, I wasn't confident in the info in that article so I dug deeper

http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/galveston/beneficials/ben...

Page on braconid wasps which is the correct family name of the one making cocoons on hornworms.

http://www.pacifichorticulture.org/garden-allies/69/2/
Go about halfway down to Feeding Adult Wasps
"If you bring joy and enthusiasm to everything you do, people will think you're crazy" W. Haelfeli, New Yorker cartoon
Imagestormyla
Jul 24, 2011 2:33 PM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
Thanks, Sally! There are tons of Sweet Alyssum growing here! Thumbs up I do have several pots of parsley and I have let the curly parsley in the ground here flower.

Maybe I'll sprinkle some parsley seeds in the tomato pots now. They seem to germinate almost overnight.
ImageWild_Rose
Jul 25, 2011 9:28 PM CST
Name: Karen Allen
Fredericksburg, VA
Ebony Jewelwing...
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Instead of running after perfection, why not simply walk in faith?
ImageWild_Rose
Jul 25, 2011 9:32 PM CST
Name: Karen Allen
Fredericksburg, VA
Slaty Skimmer...
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Instead of running after perfection, why not simply walk in faith?
Imagestormyla
Jul 25, 2011 9:36 PM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
Those are both very beautiful Karen! Thumbs up
Imagejmorth
Jul 26, 2011 1:16 AM CST
central Illinois
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