Mid Atlantic Magpie Chatter forum: What's Going on in the World Today and Yesterday? ~ #4 ~ October 2011

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ImageDaylilyDiva219
Oct 19, 2011 10:40 AM CST
Name: Barb
Falls Church, VA
Zone 7a
Let's continue the discussions about what's happening, what has happened, or what might be happening now! Ears perked up!

Please note that we are not looking to engage in a lot of intense debates here, especially those of a political/religious nature, but we will certainly be tolerant of all points of view.

We came from here: http://cubits.org/MidAtlanticMusings/thread/view/63297/


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Imagestormyla
Oct 19, 2011 10:47 AM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
Thanks for the new thread Barb! Big Grin
Imagestormyla
Oct 19, 2011 11:01 AM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
Here is an interesting article from the Pew Research Center about public opinion in the US regarding "haves & have nots". I find it interesting to see which groups of people see the same issues quite differently.

This website has lots of good reading. The Pew Research Center differs from a traditional think tank in that unlike most think tanks, it is truly non-partisan and it only provides raw data. The Pew organization seeks to draw no conclusions from the data, just puts it out there for others to draw the conclusions.

http://www.people-press.org/2011/09/29/no-consensus-about-wh...
Imagestormyla
Oct 19, 2011 11:10 AM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
Here is the main page of the Pew Research Center, not just the one for the people and press.

http://pewresearch.org/about/projects/
Imagestormyla
Oct 19, 2011 12:30 PM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
My goodness, is texting really becoming the preferred form of communication among adults? I hate getting & receiving texts.

http://www.pewinternet.org/Reports/2011/Cell-Phone-Texting-2...
Imagedixiegalpa
Oct 19, 2011 12:35 PM CST
Name: Debbie S
Central PA
Hitting lots of milestones this yea
I hate talking on the phone and always wished I could get rid of it...so yes I prefer texting...but I would prefer to get rid of both the phone and texting...but that isn't going to happen. I like my email and face2face interactions much more than the others.
mama of a 7yr old Wolf Scout.
wife of wonderful hubby of 9 yrs:)
Secretary of Pack Committee 284
Asst Den Leader,PTO mama,SAHM
Imagestormyla
Oct 19, 2011 12:43 PM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
I was surprised to learn just today that people play video games on their phones. I don't care for the phone very much either. It is nice to be able to speak to friends or family far away or just to make plans, but I rarely use it for long conversations.

Who other than teenagers is making 50 texts a day?
Imagedixiegalpa
Oct 19, 2011 1:14 PM CST
Name: Debbie S
Central PA
Hitting lots of milestones this yea
I know my friends do...its actually to the point that I barely ever want to get together with any of them...they are on thier phone's sooo much that its rude and inconsiderate. They don't pay attention...or talk anymore..just text and play games. Very obnoxious.
mama of a 7yr old Wolf Scout.
wife of wonderful hubby of 9 yrs:)
Secretary of Pack Committee 284
Asst Den Leader,PTO mama,SAHM
Imagesallyg
Oct 19, 2011 10:18 PM CST
Name: Sally
central Maryland
slef employed writier
I'll have to get back to the Pew article/link. I need to get to bed.
I also dont like phone calling. My hairstylist confesssed to the same thing, hating to make phone calls, and said she was surprised at how many of her customers agreed once she raised the topic.
But I would never get my phone out while at lunch with my friends or family! The only game I saw on a cellphone was so tiny and pointless I can't imagine it something to spend any time on. I was at a family thing last summer and one member brought her new iPad, and spent a lot of time playing with it and demonstrating. I thought that was kind of unsocial.
"If you bring joy and enthusiasm to everything you do, people will think you're crazy" W. Haelfeli, New Yorker cartoon
Imagestormyla
Oct 20, 2011 1:56 AM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
I remember thinking that about everybody walking around listening to their walkmans. Hilarious! I can see kids bringing along their game devices, but adults? My nieces are forever texting the entire time they visit, especially whenever we are in the car going somewhere. It's like I am in the car by myself.

My little nephew will be in the back seat of the car or van and will text me from there, while I am driving. Thumbs down
Imagestormyla
Oct 20, 2011 3:59 AM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
I keep seeing completely opposite views on this Occupy movement in all forms of the press. This one was another one that blew my mind. Pay particular attention to the video at the bottom.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/19/john-stossel-occupy...

It would appear that these protesters are mad at everybody and view everybody that is not in their group as the enemy.

I don't know where the press gets these figures where they say that only 15% of the protesters are unemployed. Maybe that's true.

It does seem true that these protesters are very anti-capitalist and want to see a redistribution of wealth in the US. How the press can claim that over a third of them are willing to use force to effect that redistribution is beyond me.

It also seems very short sighted of the protesters to keep attacking anyone who goes to find out what they are all about. How do these people think they will accomplish anything? It seems like a lot of mob anger is building, yet aside from wanting everyone else to give up whatever they have worked for and turn it over to the protesters, what is the central message here?

At first I thought it was about more federal oversight of banking and limitations on top corporate salaries. That was before I saw that list of issues they published.

The irony in all of this is that no industry has been more impacted in this recession than the financial industry. The number of people who have lost jobs in the financial arenas in the past ten years is unparalleled in any other period. Whole giant corporations like Lehman brothers just disappeared over night and all of those folks are unemployed. All of the banks have done massive layoffs and many have closed all together. Financial analysts have one of the highest unemployment rates. Unemployed brokers are everywhere.

All of the Investment Banking Firms, Mutual Fund Companies, Trust Companies, Investment Management Companies and Brokerage Firms have done deep layoffs every one of the past 10 years. Salaries in these firms are lower than they were 10 years ago. Occupy had nothing to do with this. Supply and demand did it.

The entire mortgage brokerage business is about a third of the size that it was 10 years ago. Are these people now part of this Occupy movement?

All recessions create unemployment. Another aspect of recessions relative to employment is that during troubled economic times, even very profitable companies use those periods to trim excess payroll that has become redundant due to technological improvements. They do it during recessions because the odds that employees will win suits against them during those times is very low. Here is a very telling article about the future of a near term significant improvement in the employment situation.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03...

Does anyone have any better idea of what this movement is trying to accomplish?
Imagestormyla
Oct 20, 2011 4:07 AM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
Here's a pretty nice article on the best job fields for people over age 50. Some of them are pretty surprising.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag/best-jobs/2011/jobs-...
Imagestormyla
Oct 20, 2011 7:58 AM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
I've been reading all week about people's reactions to Lady Gaga's performance at President Clinton's weekend long birthday bash rerun. Many people think that it was very inappropriate for her to make the remarks that she did alluding to his past romantic involvements with Hillary Clinton standing beside him. The video is included here with this article and it doesn't look to me at all like she is very upset about it. Maybe it's just the public who don't to be reminded of it. What do you all think?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/18/lawrence-odonnell-b...

Imagesallyg
Oct 20, 2011 9:12 AM CST
Name: Sally
central Maryland
slef employed writier
I don't know what Occupy is really about now. I haven't had the time to read about them, just snippets on the news. Including the snippet from a black woman expressing her disgust with "the Jewish banking" people. Can you beleive she let herself be videotaped saying that?? "The Jewish people running the big banks" Unbeleivable. Can you imagine if someone said. 'The black people taking welfare.' Comparable statement.


Most of those ten jobs need very good verbal and or writing skills. Again, people, literacy. Two of them require physical fitness. Lots of kids want to be personal trainers, but I think the typical entry to the business is low wage gym staff. It looks like a good part time job though. Our instructor does about 4 classes a week, I guess you could say it forces her to be in shape, and gets paid to workout instead of paying for the gym. Another friend took on a part time yoga instruction job, I think the certfication is pretty easy. She taught at the hospital, so I don't think you'd expect it to be as high level as at a gym.

Another part time job is mystery shopping. It may not pay really well, my sister has started into it. It has some potential. But you have to be organized, literate and have computer -- computer skills are expected for submitting receipts and filling out reports. Extremely flexible.

Lady Gaga was an eyebrow raiser for me, but I didn't make too much of it, It sort of played off the marilyn Monroe Kennedy birthday song in my mind. Everyone assumes sock andawe from Gaga anyway. What I thought about was--this is not a " party for him," this is a performance/ show to entertain the guests who are no doubt contrbuting big time to him or Hillary, in hopes of future favors.

Hillary must have a really tough hide by now. I was all over national news. If that wouldn't toughen you to that reality, what would? Then she went on to have her own very high level public career. Scrutiny is an everyday thing for her.
"If you bring joy and enthusiasm to everything you do, people will think you're crazy" W. Haelfeli, New Yorker cartoon
Imagestormyla
Oct 20, 2011 10:17 AM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
I saw a film clip of Hillary Clinton this week saying emphatically and repeatedly that she was retiring from public life as soon as her time in her present position is finished.

The assumption with any of those jobs for people over 50 is that you will already have computer and communication skills or would have used some of your severance pay to take a class and acquire some. I thought the energy auditor job was interesting. I had an independent person come around and do one a few years back. It seemed like a pretty good and easy job to me.

I did read a very strongly worded article from someone representing the Jewish Defense League demanding to know why the public has been so silent on the many anti-semetic plackard slogans and chants people have been making about the Jews and the banks. Now that is something that I am surprised that the President has not addressed in the different comments he has made about the protests.

The whole thing is really starting to remind me of pre-war Germany. It seems that as Communism and Socialism have been failing and crumbling around the world, there are those here in the US who want to move in that direction despite having been witness to those shortcomings.

I knew someone who was a mystery shopper for years for Sears. It was a very good job complete with full benefits.

The concerts for President Clinton's birthday were supposed to be fund raisers for his foundation.

I saw this today and got a kick out of it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/13/occupy-something-ca...



Imagestormyla
Oct 20, 2011 10:40 AM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
I swear I just don't get this new brand of journalism.. look at this headline about Gaddafi.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/?country=US

Then if you click on the article and read it, at the very bottom of the article it says the Whitehouse says that it has not yet confirmed the reports of his death.
Imagesallyg
Oct 20, 2011 8:12 PM CST
Name: Sally
central Maryland
slef employed writier
there have to be some Occupy jokes going around. Probably Leno.

I'm really baffled by the Obama getting on the radio to announce Quaddafi's killing. I mean, does this really affect us all that much? Has it been on the radar that much? We've hardly had anything to do with Libya, have we? He seemed down on the list of things to worry about, underneath Iran, Iraq, Al Quaeda, North Korea, Pakistan.... Is this about, oh good now we can buy oil from them again? (assuming we had stopped while Quadafi was in power-?) Sorry , I should do some reading up before asking.
"If you bring joy and enthusiasm to everything you do, people will think you're crazy" W. Haelfeli, New Yorker cartoon
Imagezuzu
Oct 21, 2011 12:07 AM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California
zone 9
Qadhafi ceased to be a major worry as soon as we invaded Iraq. It was one of the fringe benefits of that operation. He had been quite scary, but the show of U.S. force turned him into a pussycat for a long time. It had the same effect on the Syrian leadership.
Imagesallyg
Oct 21, 2011 12:17 AM CST
Name: Sally
central Maryland
slef employed writier
Thanks, see, I just feel like 'they' know the average Joe can barely keep up, and so they make this huge anouncement, and many people will just say 'Oh really? That's great ! I guess' (since you say it is) 'Do we get any credit for it?' , I guess so (since you are acting like we do)'yeah that Quadafi guy he was really bad, I kinda remember...'
"If you bring joy and enthusiasm to everything you do, people will think you're crazy" W. Haelfeli, New Yorker cartoon
Imagebitbit
Oct 21, 2011 5:38 AM CST
Name: bit
Eastern VA and NC
Zone 7b/8a
Sally, we haven't had troops in Libya, but we've spent about $1 billion there this year. With how the economy and budget are these days, I think that does affect us all.

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