Healthy Happy & Hip Living in the Mid Atlantic forum: General Health and Wellness Chat #2 ~ November 2011

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ImageDaylilyDiva219
Nov 6, 2011 12:23 PM CST
Name: Barb
Falls Church, VA
Zone 7a
Let's continue to discuss ways to stay healthy as the winter season of coughs, sniffles, colds and worse approaches!

We came from here: http://cubits.org/MidAtlanticMusings/thread/view/31884/

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Breathe in, Breathe out...Move on - Jimmy Buffett
Imagestormyla
Nov 6, 2011 12:31 PM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
Love that graphic Barb!! Thumbs up Sniffs and coughs is right. Is anyone else having sinus issues since the weather changed?
ImageDaylilyDiva219
Nov 6, 2011 12:37 PM CST
Name: Barb
Falls Church, VA
Zone 7a
Thanks, Stormy. I usually have some general stuffiness once we turn the heat on, but as soon as the humidifier (installed) kicks in, it takes care of that problem. I have also become a great advocate of sinus rinses. They're a quick and easy way to derail some potential infections before they take hold. Thumbs up Even DH has been doing it without complaining.
Breathe in, Breathe out...Move on - Jimmy Buffett
ImageJaeRae
Nov 6, 2011 1:48 PM CST
Name: Jamie R
Zone 5, WI
save the rainforest & habitat
Thanks for the new thread. Back out to work in the yard.
Woman on the eastbound train
...........................................Je Suis Désolé.
(also a mule lovin', Charley huggin' girl)
Imagesallyg
Nov 6, 2011 2:10 PM CST
Name: Sally
central Maryland
slef employed writier
Cute puppy! Thanks for the thread, Barb.
Been in the yard,beautiful day, time to take MIL to get a bite to eat. She really seems to be slowing down this year, in my perception. Well, turning 94, she is entitled to slow down some.
"If you bring joy and enthusiasm to everything you do, people will think you're crazy" W. Haelfeli, New Yorker cartoon
Imagestormyla
Nov 6, 2011 6:46 PM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
She certainly is Sally! Yes, Barb, I use Ocean twice daily once the heat goes on. Sometimes that's not enough and I literally inhale through a warm soaked face cloth. That helps a lot. Gargling with warm water twice daily helps a lot too.
Imagesallyg
Nov 6, 2011 7:01 PM CST
Name: Sally
central Maryland
slef employed writier
My friend had chronic bad sinus infections until she started using sinus rinse. She loves it, raved about it.
"If you bring joy and enthusiasm to everything you do, people will think you're crazy" W. Haelfeli, New Yorker cartoon
Imagestormyla
Nov 7, 2011 9:11 AM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
Well, I'm not sure if my sinus irritation is from the weather or is a part of the normal post smoking body adjustment. So far I have not started any of the deep coughing that goes along with it. The last time that I quit, that started happening about 3 weeks after I quit. Today starts the 6th week since I stopped.

I did step down to the lower dosage nicotene lozenge about 10 -12 days ago. I plan to stay at this level for another week. I do still get some pretty powerful cravings and some unexpected urges to smoke that seem to be more behavior related than cravings. I find it so odd that I still keep finding myself reaching for my smokes at the oddest times.

Yesterday I was bad about resisting the cravings and took more than my scheduled amount of lozenges. I just wasn't thinking. I should have reached for my mints instead. I was very busy all day and just wanted to get on with my chores.

I also found that cutting the higher dose lozenges in half was not a good idea. They dissolved so quickly that I think the body got too high a dose in too short a time period. I went and bought the lower dose ones and they are at least much more psychologically satisfying. After this week I do plan to cut those in half because they don't make a lower dose one.
Imagebitbit
Nov 7, 2011 9:57 AM CST
Name: bit
Eastern VA and NC
Zone 7b/8a
Six weeks!!! Hurray! My, how time flies!

Can you suck on another candy at the same time as the half-lozenge? Might make it last a bit longer, or at least trick your brain into thinking you have more.
ImageJaeRae
Nov 7, 2011 10:22 AM CST
Name: Jamie R
Zone 5, WI
save the rainforest & habitat
I like the gum. I never tried to quit but kept gum in my suit pockets when in business because there were many days of meetings and classes where smoking was not an option or I simply did not wish to make a point of it.

Nicotine sharpens my thinking capacity though and the gum worked that way.

You are right about 'habit' though Stormy. If I find my tabacco use on the incease, I frequently reject the 'I will do this right after a cigarette' thought and change it to, 'I'll do this and then have a cigarette break'.

I never carry them around though or take them upstairs. I have a 'smoking spot' but I do not either leave them in that room. That means I have to go get one.

For me, because I really have no wish to give it up as a pleasure, I think it is more a matter of keeping it in perspective.
Woman on the eastbound train
...........................................Je Suis Désolé.
(also a mule lovin', Charley huggin' girl)
Imagestormyla
Nov 7, 2011 10:44 AM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
That is a good perspective Jae. Mine were glued to me at all times and i smoked everywhere.

Even with using these lozenges i find that i am trying to break more smoking related habits. like not having my morning coffee along with a lozenge. i have one first and then the other. i also try not to take a lozenge right after a meal, but wait at least a half an hour to break that habit.

Bit, Thanks! That is a good idea and I will try using it next week when I start cutting the lower dose lozenges in half.

Jae, I used to use the gum at work the same way that you did, but found the lozenges to be better. I'm actually using the Walmart Equate brand of them now. They are about 55% of the cost of the Commit ones. These are quite a bit cheaper for me than smoking, but I am still determined to get off of these lozenges within the next month.
ImageJaeRae
Nov 7, 2011 11:01 AM CST
Name: Jamie R
Zone 5, WI
save the rainforest & habitat
Well, certainly I wish you the best!

I don't know many smokers who keep it in the same limits that I do, except maybe my grandmother. She was such a cute little woman, smoked all of her adult life and just quit when she was older. She seemed not to wrestle with it at all, she just quit.

When I visited (as whenever I visit with anyone who doesn't smoke) I didn't smoke but once in a while she would say, "Do you have a cigarette, Jamie?...give me one dear." I get out two, find an ashtray, and we would light a smoke together: she'd squash hers out after a few puffs though. Since, I've wondered if she really wanted one at all or if she just wanted me to go ahead in her company. Hilarious!
Woman on the eastbound train
...........................................Je Suis Désolé.
(also a mule lovin', Charley huggin' girl)
Imagestormyla
Nov 7, 2011 1:30 PM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
I have friends who don't smoke but once or twice a year or even every couple of years, they will ask for a smoke usually when we are in some swanky NYC cocktail lounge. But not anymore... Although lots of the NYC places have opened up heated outdoor outdoor dining and drinking areas now. They are all in competition to now have the swankiest outdoor smoking lounges. If they are located behind the building, no code violations....
ImageJaeRae
Nov 7, 2011 2:42 PM CST
Name: Jamie R
Zone 5, WI
save the rainforest & habitat
Yes. That is happening around here too. Lovely patio dining went in quickly. The problem is the winter season. Because no one wants to stand out in the cold, and since people get out of the habit during the winter season, many of the restaurants and lounges took a hit that extends now throughout the year. Lots of in home/backyard parties.

I had to laugh though the year (I think abiut 2004-5) that Key West put in an indoor smoking ban. The law was written so that there could be a roof and walls but there had to be a certain % of non-building in airflow. It's so warm down there that there was a huge run on garage doors from the mainland. Lots of places just replaced the walls all around with headers and garage doors, put in surround fencing, and marked off 'NON-smoking' areas (closer to the kitchen Smiling )....leave it to liberal thinking! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious!
Woman on the eastbound train
...........................................Je Suis Désolé.
(also a mule lovin', Charley huggin' girl)

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