Mary is right, Jade has TERRIBLE germination but the beans are soooo gooood that I tolerate it. I sometimes start them in damp paper towel which is a pain but if we're not going to market, we only need a few plants. I'm not a fan of Blue Lake either. We really love wax beans too and the variety I get is Pencil Pod. They are an heirloom so I can save seeds. Jade is now open pollinated so I am saving seeds this year. I wonder if I'll have any better germination with saved seeds? I'll have to let you know.