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ImageChicotSherry
Mar 15, 2010 8:02 PM CST
Southeast Arky - zone 8a
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Zu, if cluttering is hereditary, it might skip generations. Neither of my parents cluttered, but my sibling & I both clutter, and none of my first cousins clutter, but one aunt did. My hub & his sibling do not clutter but their mother, Nanah, DID, big time, she the the rubber bands on the doorknob thing, and had a huge collection of what I call 'antique' jelly, with the dates - so, we never ate jelly here, unless we were here when she made it - good grief, her pear preserves, cut, very thin, with orange peel and mint were to die for, Nanah might have been a clutterer but she could throw a country, gourmet meal together in a flash, her hot water bread was heaven...thanks, Nanah, those were the days!!!

(I did that darn delete thing again & it's too exhausting to try to rewrite it, whew! But I got the Banty babies & ducks settled in their new condo...)
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Imagezuzu
Mar 15, 2010 10:24 PM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California
zone 9
Craig's List scares me. It's been the cause of too many assaults. Besides, I envision burglars doing their research there.

That brings up something about the cluttering. I have thousands of LP records. I don't get rid of them because I read some time ago that just one of the Beatles records I have was sold at Sotheby's for 20,000 pounds. I subsequently looked it up on a Website and learned that the cover alone, without the record, would sell here for as much as $8,000. Here's the thing, though: How do I get someone to appraise my collection without worrying that he has burglar connections and the whole collection and anything else of value in my house will be stolen after he finishes appraising? The appraising would have to be done in my house because I can't drive these anywhere and I wouldn't dare mail them.
ImageSugarweed
Mar 16, 2010 12:16 AM CST
Name: Sidney, Zone 9A and 9B
Okeechobee, Fl
Giving Audubon Sanct. Tours Soon.
I'd try online with a big NY auction house like Sotherby's (not sure of spelling).
You can also email the folks at Antiques Roadshow.
When My DM went to the Light, I had an accredited appraiser check some of her things.
It cost about $300.
S.
The difference between adventure and adversity is attitude. Be positive, be happy.
Imagezuzu
Mar 16, 2010 12:43 AM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California
zone 9
I don't see how they could do an accurate appraisal without looking at the condition of these records. In fact, what I really would want is someone who could appraise them and then act as my agent to sell the valuable ones, but whom could I trust to do this? If the appraiser knows he will be selling the items, he might understate their value or tell me certain ones have no value at all and then offer me a low price for the entire bunch. It's all too insurmountable, and I just don't have the time to do this properly. So far, I'm thinking of just leaving it to my executor. She doesn't have a full-time job and can take the time to make lists of everything and shop around for the best appraisers and agents.

Getting back to the reasons we collect things, I know exactly why I started collecting stamps. When my son reached the toddler stage and essentially turned the house upside down, I would work on my stamp collection after he went to bed at night. Those albums were the only places in the entire house where everything was where it was supposed to be. It was psychologically comforting after a day of utter chaos.
ImageChicotSherry
Mar 16, 2010 6:29 AM CST
Southeast Arky - zone 8a
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Zu, you can get a good appraisal online, with a digital camera, or a cell phone. Just make good photos, then locate a reputable company, and discuss sending the info by email, or you could have the photos developed & send them via snail mail. I would discuss it with the company first and see what they prefer, I do know that many do that on a daily, worldwide basis. I'd use a separate email address to maintain your privacy & I'd work with a company a long distance from where you live, with a solid reputation. Good luck & keep us posted!!
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Imagezuzu
Aug 3, 2010 1:31 AM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California
zone 9
It's been so long since anyone posted in this thread, but I have to report my progress. After being barraged with advice on decluttering, which seems to be the hot topic of the year, I decided I don't want to get rid of any of my things. I had a lot of fun shopping for them, I paid a lot of money for them, and I like them, so I'm going to keep them.
ImageChicotSherry
Mar 9, 2012 1:17 PM CST
Southeast Arky - zone 8a
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Yes, I know I will be posting to myself. There can't possibly be anyone here after almost 2 years of silence. I regret disappearing, and while I consider this endeavor a life work, keeping myself fit, I require more activity than this forum inspired.

So, does anyone use a chiropractor?
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Imagezuzu
Mar 9, 2012 2:04 PM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California
zone 9
Hey, Sherry. How are you doing? I have never used a chiropractor, but maybe someone else has.
ImageSugarweed
Mar 10, 2012 10:11 AM CST
Name: Sidney, Zone 9A and 9B
Okeechobee, Fl
Giving Audubon Sanct. Tours Soon.
on feb 15 i walked off of a porch on a house built on silts and broke my back. Am in body brace for at least 10 more weeks. duh!
sidney
The difference between adventure and adversity is attitude. Be positive, be happy.
Imagezuzu
Mar 10, 2012 3:17 PM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California
zone 9
OMG, Sidney. How awful! I can easily imagine myself walking off that kind of porch. I hope there's no lasting damage.
ImageSugarweed
Mar 11, 2012 7:00 AM CST
Name: Sidney, Zone 9A and 9B
Okeechobee, Fl
Giving Audubon Sanct. Tours Soon.
Me too. So far they think I can heal without surgery. Thumbs up
The difference between adventure and adversity is attitude. Be positive, be happy.
ImageRhondasRealm
Oct 7, 2012 11:44 AM CST
Name: Rhonda Koti
Science Hill, Kentucky
~ Be the Change You Wish to See in
I am new Hurray! I am not sure anyone is still in here but I had a comment about the clutter bug syndrome as both my hubby and I have it also.

I did notice tho that when I went through my darkest stages of depression that my clutter became -hoarders syndrome-- and stupid useless stuff such as clothing that I no longer fit into but I "might need one day" or gifts my mom had given me for Christmas-- I didn't really like them but felt I needed to hang onto them- I didn't display them but had them in a closet.

I thought this clutter syndrome was just me- and I always blamed my messy house on the fact that I had grown up in a very large home, with lots of rooms - so that when I moved all my stuff from home to my home- smaller home-- that my stuff just didnt fit. However, I failed to see that I kept bringing new stuff in an already cluttered home.

I think one thing that broke me of so much clutter is when my Mom passed 3 years ago ( my dad had passed years before) and my brother and I got the task of cleaning out her home and preparing it for the estate sale. My mom lived in a 3 story plantation type home-- rooms were huge....and each bedroom had a walk in closet.

Each room was stuffed full of furniture- many were antiques handed down from family members but...each closet was stuffed full of clothes. My mom had a complete winter wardrobe in one closet, another closet had her summer wardrobe, and another closet was full of her formal gowns and things for Eastern Stars. At the time of her death, she was still a member but not actively participating.

It was just odd the sheer amount of stuff she held onto. Clothes I hadn't ever seen her wear or she had not worn for years but were still "good".

At that point- I realized, clutterbug syndrome can be hereditary and- can also be linked to depression since depression has been linked back on her side of the family to my great great grandmother.

Now~~~

I am remarried and live in the smallest house I have ever lived in lol- 1 bedroom home. Have a giant storage shed in the yard but to keep my clutterbug at bay, if I bring something into the house, I have to take something out of the house or 2 somethings. My collections and stuff are in the shed, for now, but so are his.

Imagezuzu
Oct 7, 2012 12:23 PM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California
zone 9
Hi, Rhonda. I'm still here. Welcome to the forum.

I'm sure you're right about loss and depression triggering the hoarder reflex, and about the hereditary nature of the condition. I'm happy you've recognized the inclination and you're taking steps to curb it.

I have closets and cupboards full of my sister's things. She died 12 years ago and I keep meaning to get rid of them, but somewhere deep inside I have the notion that it would be a betrayal of her. I know that's ridiculous, but I still haven't been able to box them up and send them to Goodwill.

Depression works in the other direction for me, however. I rarely feel depressed, but when I do, I'm devoid of sentimentality and I can get rid of things that once seemed precious for purely sentimental reasons. I guess I should plan on a major cleanup the next time I feel depressed. Hilarious!
ImageRhondasRealm
Oct 7, 2012 1:03 PM CST
Name: Rhonda Koti
Science Hill, Kentucky
~ Be the Change You Wish to See in
I do my best cleaning when I feel overwhelmed and feel I have "no control" of life or things in general. My counselor told me to remind myself that although I could not control some things, there were other things I could control.

For example- I am over the top terrified of "end of times" talk, global warfare ect. - Blinking - so I can't control that but...I can control the clutter in my corner of the living room and somehow just decluttering a bit calms me - doesnt fix global warming but I cant fix that either.
Imagezuzu
Oct 7, 2012 3:25 PM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California
zone 9
That's a good attitude. Some people tend to pile stuff up around them as a protective measure when they feel a lack of control over life outside their home, but as long as you're aware that it offers no real protection, it's not a problem.
ImageSugarweed
Oct 9, 2012 10:55 AM CST
Name: Sidney, Zone 9A and 9B
Okeechobee, Fl
Giving Audubon Sanct. Tours Soon.
I still lurk here too.
Sidney
The difference between adventure and adversity is attitude. Be positive, be happy.
Imagezuzu
Oct 9, 2012 4:42 PM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California
zone 9
Good to hear from you, Sidney. How's your back? Did it heal without surgery?
ImageSugarweed
Oct 14, 2012 10:14 AM CST
Name: Sidney, Zone 9A and 9B
Okeechobee, Fl
Giving Audubon Sanct. Tours Soon.
Well, it's 'healed' and I am walking without a cane and stand straight. I ask a friend how my walk looks and he said painful. It's not. Sometimes I look like I'm drunk when I walk, LOL.
I can't go from flat footed to tip-toes and my feet are still cold feeling, but warm when I touch them.
I am truly blessed and thankful I'm not paralyzed.
I only take a pill when my back gets a 'tired pain'. I am mostly on Aleve Liquid Gel Caps. Hurray! Hurray! Hurray!
The difference between adventure and adversity is attitude. Be positive, be happy.
ImageChicotSherry
Oct 16, 2012 4:17 PM CST
Southeast Arky - zone 8a
Friends Supporting Friends' Cubits
Hey, Sid & Zu!! Been a while, huh? Grateful your back is better, Sid, was it an injury?

Hi, Rhonda! I was a dedicated hoarder - I was the only girl on all sides of the family, so, I got all the stuff. It's taken me forever to disappear everything, and, you know what?? I don't miss any of it, in fact, I (((LOVE))) it being gone!

I'm not positive what caused me to see the light, but I decided to come out of the closet & live life in a healthier, more meaningful way. For me, that meant, getting rid of all the stuff, living a more physical life, with zero alcohol/cigarettes, as little sugar/salt as possible, etc, and making better food choices, no doctors or drugs within reason. I walk daily, time off during wind/rain, & extreme heat. I plan to walk a mini marathon, I love it. I've already qualified.

Some place, there is a listing of the years shaved off that are lost to drugs. The only one I remember is Ambien - if one takes 18 Ambien per year, it can take 3 years off your life. Can you believe that??!! And, it's not addictive. That was meaningful to me because my mother (never ill in her life) took Ambien daily for years & lived be 80 - if she hadn't taken it, she could be alive today @ 92. And, that's just one drug. Yes, she was an addict, for my entire life, started when I was a year old. Her sad life of addiction has influenced me & I am grateful.

Anywho, I'm going to watch Extreme Cheapskates - looks like a good one to me. What are you watching & what are you reading - I'm into audible books, LOVE walking & listening to them out loud - loved
the Girl with the Dragon Tatoo, etc, The Hunger Games, all three, and haven't been able to get into 50 Shades or The Dog Stars. If you're reading something I need to read, do tell...later...


Positive attitudes are sincerely appreciated.
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Imagezuzu
Oct 16, 2012 7:13 PM CST
Name: Zuzu
Northern California
zone 9
Sherry! So very, very, very glad to hear from you! Dave instituted a rule about liquidating cubits unless the owner visits them once in a while, so I was afraid your cubits would disappear. In fact, I started a Guilty Pleasures cubit of my own and moved American Idol over there last year. Come over and give us your thoughts on The Voice, X Factor, Hoarders, and all of those other guilty pleasure TV shows.

http://cubits.org/guiltypleasures/

Delighted to hear about all of your progress. I'm still smoking, but after seeing how suicidal I get within a few days after I try to quit, my doctor and everyone else now realizes that I'll live a lot longer with cigarettes than without them and no one's bugging me to quit. Big Grin

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