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Image Papaver somniferum: Is This Drop-Dead-Gorgeous Poppy Illegal to Grow in the U.S.?
By Larry Rettig on July 5, 2010

As a gardener and avid reader of articles and books related to gardening and horticulture, I’ve more than once stumbled upon a curious assertion that the Bread Seed Poppy, Papaver somniferum, is actually the Opium Poppy and therefore illegal to grow. I didn’t give the claim much credence, because the seed is sold openly by such venerable establishments as Thompson and Morgan, Burpee, Park Seed, Cooks Garden Seeds, and many others.

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Imagewoofie
Jul 11, 2010 11:54 AM CST
Name: woofie
NE WA zone 5a
Odd that those poppies will grow just fine in Afghanistan, but not in Georgia. I thought it got a LOT hotter over there!
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LiliMerci
Jul 11, 2010 2:14 PM CST
Name: Nicole
Atlanta 8a
yes, I would think so too. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. Oh, well. I have lots of seeds given to me so I'll just keep trying each year. I love them and they are so pretty. I do have woodland poppies, but those are different.
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Imagewoofie
Jul 11, 2010 2:23 PM CST
Name: woofie
NE WA zone 5a
I have some growing here; I didn't plant them, they're just left over from the previous owner. But it's been 10 years and they still keep popping up (Ha! maybe that's why they're called "poppies"?). You might have better luck if you winter sowed them? Um, or do you actually have winter there? Big Grin
Confidence is that feeling you have right before you do something really stupid.
LiliMerci
Jul 11, 2010 2:33 PM CST
Name: Nicole
Atlanta 8a
I do winter sow them - January. In a container and I leave them in there.
ImageLindaTX8
Jul 11, 2010 4:39 PM CST
Name: Linda
Medina Co., TX
Try sowing some directly, maybe? I haven't tried starting them in pots...somebody told me they don't transplant well.
Imagelocakelly
Jul 11, 2010 4:39 PM CST
Name: Kelly
Phoenix, AZ
LiliMerci - they grow well here in Phoenix. I sow them in late October...

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Imageboojum
Jul 11, 2010 4:51 PM CST
Name: Kathy
Western MA zone 4-5a
I just pull out the plants in fall and turn them upside down to sprinkle seeds where I want them to grow. I think direct sowing is the answer. I never water them, they just come up. Maybe they need to sit in the cold over winter to bloom well.
LiliMerci
Jul 11, 2010 7:21 PM CST
Name: Nicole
Atlanta 8a
I don't transplant them. I just leave them in the container. I will try in October. Problem is I put pine straw down to protect some of my plants so they don't usually germinate with stuff covering them right?
Imagewoofie
Jul 11, 2010 8:02 PM CST
Name: woofie
NE WA zone 5a
Yes, I believe they need light to germinate.
Confidence is that feeling you have right before you do something really stupid.
LiliMerci
Jul 11, 2010 10:35 PM CST
Name: Nicole
Atlanta 8a
another reason I start them in a container.
Imagewoofie
Jul 12, 2010 8:50 AM CST
Name: woofie
NE WA zone 5a
They don't do well in small containers, unfortunately, and you essentially can't transplant them. I did manage to start some once in 4" peat pots and they did well, but it's hard to keep those peat pots from drying out!
Confidence is that feeling you have right before you do something really stupid.
Imagerannveig
Jul 13, 2010 5:09 AM CST
Name: Rannveig
Hafnarfjörður, Iceland
My experience is that they do best if left to self sow ..... and our cool summers seem plenty warm for them to grow and set seed. They're starting to flower now - here's a photo of the purple ones.

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Imagewoofie
Jul 13, 2010 8:12 AM CST
Name: woofie
NE WA zone 5a
Oh, those are lovely! Lucky you!
Confidence is that feeling you have right before you do something really stupid.
Imageboojum
Jul 13, 2010 8:22 AM CST
Name: Kathy
Western MA zone 4-5a
I agree
ImageLindaTX8
Jul 13, 2010 8:39 AM CST
Name: Linda
Medina Co., TX
Ooh! Ah! And....a cool summer sounds good! I've always wondered what a cool summer would be like. The closest I've come was living in North Africa on the coast...and that wasn't very cool...it was just a little cooler than here because of the sea.
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Imagewoofie
Jul 13, 2010 8:52 AM CST
Name: woofie
NE WA zone 5a
This is the one I started in the peat pots in my GH; it was kind of a pain, but I think it was worth it!

Thumbnail by woofie

Confidence is that feeling you have right before you do something really stupid.
LiliMerci
Jul 13, 2010 10:03 AM CST
Name: Nicole
Atlanta 8a
wow, woofie. I have never seen one so big!

Rannveig, those poppies are so pretty next to your foxgloves. Beautiful cottage garden!

Oh, how I envy all of you for being able to grow them....
Imagerannveig
Jul 13, 2010 6:39 PM CST
Name: Rannveig
Hafnarfjörður, Iceland
Thank you ..... :-)

woofie - that one is gorgeous!
cowboy
Dec 10, 2010 8:26 PM CST
Calgary, AB
An interesting article but I would like to point out that the top photo labeled P. somniferum is actually P. setigerum. You can tell by the colour of the petals and the green-yellow pod.

There is a lighter variety although some of the lightness is in this photo and not in the actual flower -
Thumb of 2010-12-11/cowboy/5f7424

and the more common variety -
Thumb of 2010-12-11/cowboy/d472d5

I would like to get seed from this one -
http://dias-com-arvores.blogspot.com/2009/06/sono-branco.htm...

ImageLarryR
Dec 10, 2010 10:31 PM CST
Name: Larry Rettig
South Amana, IA
Hi Cowboy--Welcome aboard! Thanks for your comments. You might want to let Wikimedia know that they have mislabeled the photo I used in the thumbnail for my article.
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