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Image Papaver somniferum: Is This Drop-Dead-Gorgeous Poppy Illegal to Grow in the U.S.?
By Larry Rettig on July 5, 2010

As a gardener and avid reader of articles and books related to gardening and horticulture, I’ve more than once stumbled upon a curious assertion that the Bread Seed Poppy, Papaver somniferum, is actually the Opium Poppy and therefore illegal to grow. I didn’t give the claim much credence, because the seed is sold openly by such venerable establishments as Thompson and Morgan, Burpee, Park Seed, Cooks Garden Seeds, and many others.

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cowboy
Dec 11, 2010 11:22 AM CST
Calgary, AB

Since you know where you got the photo from, I'll let you do that.


You may enjoy looking at some of my poppy photos from recent years -

http://s241.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/blaamand/Poppies 20...

http://s241.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/blaamand/Poppies 20...

http://s241.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/blaamand/Poppies 20...

http://s241.photobucket.com/albums/ff134/blaamand/Poppies 20...

ImageLindaTX8
Dec 11, 2010 3:38 PM CST
Name: Linda
Medina Co., TX
Wow! That's a lot of poppies! Wish I could go to your place during the blooming season!
cowboy
Dec 12, 2010 7:27 PM CST
Calgary, AB


No problem. I'll pick you up at the airport.

mamajack
Mar 24, 2011 9:33 AM CST
Name: barb allison
Fate, Texas zone 8a
yeah lilli i think you would do better direct sowing poppies. my experience is that if that root is bothered at all then the plant dies. i winter sowed some in newspaper pots. we had a dry winter and none of them germinated.

here when it gets hot the poppies go dormant. do they go dormant in more temperate places?

i wondered about these poppies. i do love the flowers of the opium poppy. when homeland security came to my house i had opium poppies blooming all over. they either didn't know what the flower was or they didn't care. and i wasn't volunteering information. and it sounds like that with the government having so many other problems that this one might not be high on the list. besides any time they want you they have that law to use against you anyway.

i would hate to lose this flower from my garden. i didn't know their was opium in the seeds though. or that they could cause a positive on a drug test.

and larry....do you really have "volunteer" marijuana plants in your yard? that blows me away. you said hemp. so some hemp does not have thc?

i think the plant is very beautiful. i have never even seen a real one. what IF you didn't pull them up? surely the authorities know that they are there growing in all your gardens?
ImageLarryR
Mar 24, 2011 11:20 PM CST
Name: Larry Rettig
South Amana, IA
Hi Barb--Nice to hear from you! The marijuana, raised in our area as hemp for ropes during WWII, escaped from the fields and has naturalized. Check out the side note in brown in this article: http://davesgarden.com/guides/articles/view/1886/. I should add that eventually, the hippies figured out a way to concentrate the thc from the Amana hemp, and the recipe made its way through underground newspapers of the era.
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mamajack
Mar 25, 2011 8:58 AM CST
Name: barb allison
Fate, Texas zone 8a
i meant to read that yesterday but got busy and forgot. i did read it today. i never heard of this place. how funny.

is the kind of hemp you have legal to grow? i really love the leaves. i grow hib. cannabinus but the plants get very tall and not very bushy.
Imagewoofie
Mar 25, 2011 10:12 AM CST
Name: woofie
NE WA zone 5a
Barb, I have successfully started poppies in peat pots and moved them out to the garden. Not the pellets, but the 4" pots. And I agree, I'd love to be able to grow hemp just because I like the look and scent of the plant.
Confidence is that feeling you have right before you do something really stupid.
ImageLindaTX8
Mar 25, 2011 7:19 PM CST
Name: Linda
Medina Co., TX
Barb, last I heard all hemp crops are illegal here is the US. Canada is making a lot of money from hemp, however!
mamajack
Mar 25, 2011 9:19 PM CST
Name: barb allison
Fate, Texas zone 8a
why do we have to be so stupid about everything? all it takes is one time for .........

never mind. you don't want me to get wound up. Rolling on the floor laughing
ImageLindaTX8
Mar 26, 2011 6:15 PM CST
Name: Linda
Medina Co., TX
Yeah. We "outsourced", I guess. Well, I'm growing various kinds of poppies, including some Papaver somniferum. I hate illegal drugs, but these are just garden flowers inside my own fenced yard.
LiliMerci
Apr 11, 2011 12:19 AM CST
Name: Nicole
Atlanta 8a
LOL! How can I get some seeds for those illiegal poppies. I want to grow them just to say I grew them? :)

My son said a kid in school got in trouble for wearing a t-shirt that has a marijuana leaf on it. I told him if he had one of those shirt and they questioned him, just tell them it's a Texas Star Hibiscus. If they don't believe him have 'em look up the photo.
Imagewoofie
Apr 11, 2011 8:51 AM CST
Name: woofie
NE WA zone 5a
Well, I have about 3 quarts of seeds I gathered from the volunteers one year........ Whistling
Confidence is that feeling you have right before you do something really stupid.
ImageLindaTX8
Apr 11, 2011 9:08 AM CST
Name: Linda
Medina Co., TX
Some people out in the country grow marijuana in scattered spots in areas of their own or other people land. They're crazy to do that, but even if the neighbors notice something, they usually keep quiet. I wouldn't if any was put on my place!
Imagerannveig
Apr 11, 2011 1:50 PM CST
Name: Rannveig
Hafnarfjörður, Iceland
I have plenty of seed to share, both purple and red flowered ones :) http://cubits.org/icelandgardening/store/
KAMasud
Jul 17, 2013 3:46 AM CST
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri.
http://www.google.co.uk/#gs_rn=21&gs_ri=psy-ab&cp=5&gs_id=j1...
You all will love the above link. Latex is concentrated form. A pod or two for tea won't give you a high, maybe constipation and relief from rheumatic arthritic pain. As to the seeds, you will die of stuffing yourself before any opium kicks in Rolling on the floor laughing . As to the straw part, well everyone has a right to be idiotic once in a while.
You need at least forty plants to get enough opium gum for one fix so a few plants growing in the garden is stretching the imagination a bit.
Cannabis is a controversy. It has no harmful side effects except that you have to smoke it on a carrier like tobacco which might cause symptoms of false Tuberculosis. Depends on how much a person smokes. Cannabis leads to withdrawal behavior at the most, a person will withdraw from society and not cause destruction. The up side to it is that there is no better pain killer cum anesthetic(mild). The down side to it's use is that if a person goes in for surgery, then the anesthetist might end up in a lunatic asylum. The patient requires very heavy doses repeatedly for anesthesia to work which is against all text books Rolling on the floor laughing .
There are Field Poppies also which do not contain as much opiates. I think we have six varieties of Papaver in Pakistan. Anyone interested I will put down their botanical names.
http://www.google.co.uk/#gs_rn=21&gs_ri=psy-ab&pq=khus khus&...
Regards,
Arif.
KAMasud
Jul 17, 2013 3:48 AM CST
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri.
Go to any ethnic store and ask for Khus khus if you are looking for different colours. Buy half a Kilogram and just scatter them and no hard work required.
Regards,
Arif.
ImageLindaTX8
Jul 17, 2013 12:30 PM CST
Name: Linda
Medina Co., TX
Khus khus? Isn't that Vetiver, Arif?
KAMasud
Jul 17, 2013 7:47 PM CST
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri.
http://www.google.co.uk/#gs_rn=21&gs_ri=psy-ab&cp=23&gs_id=3...
Khus the aromatic grass, used in room coolers? That is either a googly or a curved ball.
Linda Blinking have you spent time in this part of the world? Even our new generation is not familiar with it. Khus ke Tutti is what it is called
http://www.google.co.uk/#gs_rn=21&gs_ri=psy-ab&cp=23&gs_id=3...
Regards,
Arif.
KAMasud
Jul 17, 2013 8:07 PM CST
Name: Arif Masud
Alpha Centauri.
Phonetically they are same in the local language. Khus Khus entered the lexicon of cooking/cuisine due to Australian influence but even here Khus Khus is Poppy seeds and Khus ke Tatti is the grass.
Regards,
Arif.
ImageLindaTX8
Jul 21, 2013 11:38 PM CST
Name: Linda
Medina Co., TX
Long ago I lived in North Africa for a few years, but I didn't know anything about Vetiver Grass then. I got some about 5 years ago, after a friend told me about it. When googling for info on it, I came upon the term khus khus. That reminded me of the word couscous, which is one of my favorite foods! I never knew khus khus is used for poppy seeds!

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