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ImageSharon
Jan 16, 2014 12:59 PM CST
Name: Sharon
Kentucky
I was watching the clock, JB, so so so so happy that you got a great report. This must be the week for good reports!! Yay for you.

And you're both right about moderation. Enjoy today because tomorrow you diet. Smiling
ImageSharon
Jan 16, 2014 1:09 PM CST
Name: Sharon
Kentucky
So this morning I had a fruit smoothie and also half of a PB and honey on whole grain toast. The other half is looking at me, I just couldn't get it down. Maybe later. But it was store bought PB, all natural. And it was good. Now here it is afternoon and I'm looking at the other half of that sandwich. Can't do it.

And that's my problem. If I don't want to eat, I can't make myself eat, no matter how good it is and no matter how much I need it. And what have I done this morning since getting up at 9? Put dishes away, swept the kitchen, cleaned my bathroom, walked Sunshine just around the yard, made my bed and answered a jillion comments on the Bean article on ATP, and it's just now 1 and I'm still wound up. Nothing strenuous, but like the battery that doesn't stop, I'm still going and I suspect the PB/honey has been already used up. But I am not hungry. A lifetime of that kind of pattern is not going to change overnight. Ya know? I really tried to tell the doc that, but he kept bringing up the 3 pounds.

I put grapes and strawberries with mandarins in my smoothie. It was good. I don't usually add grapes, but they were there so I did. A good contrast with the PB/honey sandwich.

Celebrate, JB, celebrate all day long!! You deserve a big celebration. Group hug
Imagevic
Jan 16, 2014 1:21 PM CST
Name: Vicki
North Carolina
Sharon, if you're not hungry, don't eat. Nothing worse than eating when you're not hungry. Have you ever tried Ensure? I got some for Hank once when he was weighing in the high 160's. He wasn't impressed. Not sure what's in it but I bet you could make your own.
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ImageSharon
Jan 16, 2014 1:40 PM CST
Name: Sharon
Kentucky
Yecchhhhh.
Imagevic
Jan 16, 2014 1:45 PM CST
Name: Vicki
North Carolina
Must really be bad, huh? Crying
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ImageSkiekitty
Jan 16, 2014 1:57 PM CST
Name: Toni
Denver Metro, Zone 5
Too many cats!!
wow

#1, got lost.. was wondering why it was so quiet, didn't realize that there was a new thread. Oops.

#2 - It's official. I guess I'm the resident fatty here. That's ok, there's more of me to love then!! Did a body analysis this morning. Need to have that done monthly so I can track my fat burning. Today I measured in at 49.1% body fat. Yay! (sarcasm here) Oh well. Was using a InBody 520 machine to do the measuring (http://www.e-inbody.com/Product/ib520.html) but the gym wasn't able to give me a printout of all the info or anything, just told me what my body fat was and that I can lose up to 100lbs. Well, I knew something along those lines already. If I can lose that much, I'd be a very happy camper. If I don't, that's OK too. And if anyone wants some of my body fat, they're welcome to it. The PT who ran the test did say that I had an insane amount of muscle tissue.. too bad it's all between my ears! LOLL!!!! Some good news, though. I have lost about 7lbs since the beginning of the year, so that's a very good thing! Means I'm on track or something.

There's a chain of grocery stores here, Sprouts, that you can get freshly made peanut butter. Only problem is that it's just mushed peanuts with no additives, so it's rather bland IMO. I did pick up some cashew butter and some macadamia butter. Not sure what I'm going to do with them 'cuz, well, they're boring to be honest.
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Imagevic
Jan 16, 2014 2:06 PM CST
Name: Vicki
North Carolina
I agree Toni - it is bland which is why I add cinnamon, etc. I even add cinnamon to my cocoa. A tad of extract is good too. Glad you found us, I wondered where you were Lovey dubby
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ImageSharon
Jan 16, 2014 2:33 PM CST
Name: Sharon
Kentucky
I've been missing you too, Toni. So glad you didn't remain lost.

You know what, Toni, you've lost 7 pounds and if you keep doing what you 've been doing, you'll lose 7 more in no time, and then another and it will be 21 and on and on. So stick with it this time and we'll cheer you on.

The thing is we love you no matter what you weigh, but we want you to be healthy and happy with yourself and I don't think you are. So keep on doing what you're doing, please.

It shouldn't matter what we weigh, except in as much as it hurts our health, and if our health becomes a factor, then that's when we have to pay attention.



Imagevic
Jan 16, 2014 2:56 PM CST
Name: Vicki
North Carolina
What Sharon said Toni Lovey dubby

We're here if you need us Group hug
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ImageSkiekitty
Jan 16, 2014 3:15 PM CST
Name: Toni
Denver Metro, Zone 5
Too many cats!!
Sharon - That's why I decided to go back on the bandwagon w/the weight loss thingiemabobbie. I wasn't happy that my "skinny" clothes weren't fitting as well as they were a few months ago, then the chest pains started to get worse, so decided to do something about it. It's not about what the scale says (mostly). And it's not about my perception of what I look like (not going there, long story). It's all about my health. With what all I want to do, I have to be able to do it, and I can't do it if I'm dead or so physically ill due to obesity. So, since that is something I *can* control, I just have to do it. And doing something about it is what I am doing. I'm eating sensibly (mostly... yes, I had a few ginger cookies a couple of days ago), I'm not skipping breakfast (that's hard for me to do.. I've never ever ever ever EVER been a breakfast person, even as a child), not eating super late at night (would munchie then go to bed.. bad me), and doing major portion control. But the big thing is the gym. I hate going to the gym. I hate seeing all these tiny skinny girls in there with their perfect skin (how in EARTH do they go through life with no scars? seriously? By the time I was 16, I had enough scars on my legs to look like a major interstate freeway, not to mention on my arms and face), and the constant stares/giggles.. ugh, I hated it when I was in high school and I hate it even more now that I've been out for a bazillion years. Trying to get mentally to the point of not giving a flying foofoo, but it's hard. A few months ago, right before I quit going in Oct, I had to shower because DH & I were going out to a fancy dinner after gym (we went earlier in the day). The showers are kinda private, but there's the translucent glass partitions between stalls, so you can see the next person over, but not make out any extreme clear details. There were two young girls in the shower next to mine & I could definitely hear that they were commenting on me in not very nice ways. I just ignored them, showered, & went back to my locker to get dressed. There was a lady in the same bay as I was in & she asked about the scar on my back. I had seen the two young girls in the next bay & I knew they were listening.. kinda obvious when giggly 14 year olds are eves-dropping. Just mentioned that I was a cancer survivor and that's the scar I got from the cancerous material removal. Ok, I hammed it up.. but it *is* true. I do have a nasty scar that's way too big and I scar very profusely (my knees right now are a railroad track yard of scars from the cats) bright pink or purple, depending on temperature & humidity (purple & puffy if humid, pink if cold & dry). When I finished getting dressed, I walked by the bay where the two girls were. Both had horrified looks on their face & I could see they were remorseful, but I didn't expect an apology or anything. Just wish that there wasn't as many teenagers at the gym, but that's what I get to deal with. Just grin & bear it.

Today I took it easy. Did 4 minutes of jogging speed (4.7mph) and 15 minutes at walking speed (3.5mph) on the treadmill. May go back tonight & do some more on the elliptical, haven't decided yet.
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Imageirisarian
Jan 16, 2014 3:45 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA
irises
Don't worry Toni. I am way too heavy also. The weight goes down & when I'm not looking up again. both ways no change of diet. winter is tough as no gardening, but on a downward trek at the moment. No reason each way.
ImageJB
Jan 16, 2014 3:48 PM CST
Name: Jacquie (JB) Berger
Wrightstown, New Jersey
JBsBirdsandMore.com
Sharon, do you drink or eat any dairy products? Pasta? If you could make yourself a banana or blueberry or strawberry milkshake or even a smoothie with lots of ice, you would get your fruit. I eat too much cheese. But I can not do milk. I get my calcium from cheese.
I also take Omega 3 and a Multivitamin for 50+ women. I love Pizza and it has lots of cheese, tomato and dough which brings on the carbs which I do not need and puts weight on. Sometimes when I am not hungry I will eat a pickle or a hot pepper or something that really seems to help wake up my taste buds. I also when I am not hungry bake a potato and put lots of sour cream on it. Can you eat Chili without meat? It is extremely difficult to eat or even think of eating when you are not happy thinking about food. Maybe you should start watching the food channel and see if there isn't something there that makes you want to eat. Buy a big Cherry Pie or Apple and put ice cream on it. As you can see, I love good food and even when I am not cooking I am having Chinese or Italian delivered. I love pancakes for breakfast. The microwave ones take 1 min 30 sec to make and I just drown them in syrup.

When I was taking care of my mother she lost her appetite and I would have to come up with something she enjoyed eating. She would eat cheese and pretzels as a snack or crackers with cheese or peanut butter.....it was not my first choice but it was food. She loved ice cream so I made her milk shakes or sodas. She hated ensure. You know, beer puts weight on you. Wine may spice up your appetite too............................ok,,, I am rambling but I really have had a lot of experience in trying to get people who were not hungry eating again. Just wanted to share some ideas with you.

One thing you must do at this time is just not think about it. Relax, enjoy your days and nights and get your mind set on anything but food. You will eat when you are hungry I feel sure, just stop stressing about it at this time. To heck with these doctors.You know your body. Thanks for the kind words about my doc visit. I am glad it is over and now I need to get down to work.
SunnyBorders
Jan 16, 2014 4:03 PM CST
Name: Charlie
Aurora, Ontario, Canada
Zone 5a
The problem with Larry's entry is that reading it just makes me feel like I'm losing weight.

Good work, JB.
Not so sure about the reward though.

Love beans.
Great article, Sharon.

I recently read that juicing fruit is not as good for you as eating the fruit itself.
If I remember, makes (chemical) sense: Juicing (in the way that dissolving or increase the surface area of a reactant speeds up a chemical reaction) will expose far more of the antioxidants in the fruit to oxygen in the air. So far more of the antioxidants will be oxidized (destroyed).

Wise words re weight, Sharon.

Unpleasant shower experience, Toni, but more fool those girls.

Carol and I are always trying to get Tim to eat breakfast to reduce the potential for later snacking.
At the other extreme, I was bought up to the traditional English "heart attack on a plate" breakfast.
In our late teens/early twenties we'd have the biggest "breakfasts", as a late night snack on Friday night, after the pub closed.

Carol's also a great lover of cinnamon, Vic.
We just came back from having our (pre-shopping) Thursday cappuccino, cinnamon on Carol's, chocolate on mine.
Imagevic
Jan 16, 2014 4:11 PM CST
Name: Vicki
North Carolina
Toni Group hug Group hug I wouldn't go to a gym if the membership was free. I'm too much of a germaphobe for one thing and all those people would make me feel closed in and miserable. I have tons of scars - big ones before laser surgery was invented Big Grin My body looks like a road map - lol Shoot, I have a scar on my leg from when I was 12 years old. Go up and down your stairs, walk the dogs, find things in the house that weigh something and lift them. There are tons of videos on youtube, online, not to mention dvd's, etc. I'm so sorry those young ladies said hurtful things and I will apologize for them. We're going to hope they didn't know better. Bless you Toni - you can do this...whatever "it" is....

Jacquie - I love cheese - - Boar's Head 3 pepper cheese is one of my favorites.
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Imagevic
Jan 16, 2014 4:12 PM CST
Name: Vicki
North Carolina
Hi ya Charlie - we crossed Hurray!
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ImageSkiekitty
Jan 16, 2014 4:44 PM CST
Name: Toni
Denver Metro, Zone 5
Too many cats!!
Vic - That's just it, I don't break a sweat doing stuff at home (hard to do the stair thing with my Achille's heels the way they are, then with my back all screwy, really not a good idea). I had an elliptical at home, but I could be on it for an hour & not break a sweat. Plus it's too easy to sit down at the computer at home whereas if I'm at the gym, I have no choice BUT to exercise in some way or another. I have a goal, though. I have a major concert that I'm going to in May & my friend who moved to TX is coming to the concert (it's one of those once-in-a-lifetime type concerts as they don't go on tour very often as a band), so I want to be able to walk the Red Rocks without being completely & utterly winded (Red Rocks is brutal, but has a spectacular view). And only 4 of my scars are medically created.. all the others are self-inflected (no, I'm not nor have I ever been a cutter.. I'm just a klutz and the saying went when I was a kid was if I hadn't passed out from blood-loss, keep working). Not much I can do outside in the garden, not with my ground a frozen brick right now. Saturday may go for a bike ride, but, again, not breaking a sweat. Bleh. And we spend WAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much for our gym membership. Seriously. Way too much. But, since my friend gave me a tablet for Christmas, going to the gym is a lot more pleasant as I just put on a movie of my choice and get lost in the movie while doing my cardio. It's awesome. Another reason why I didn't use the elliptical at home is because of the cats. They have a bad habit of wanting to be in the same room with me.. preferably me holding them. And some will actually jump onto me, whether I want them to or not, so trying to keep the cats from getting squished on the elliptical tracks or trying to catch them as they jumped from the hutch onto my chest.. just didn't work out at all.

Jacquie - Please! Don't make me read your nomnoms like that! I think I gained the 7lbs back just reading what you wrote!!! Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing

Charlie - My DH spent his teenage years in England and he's explained the English breakfast. I could feel my arteries hardening just from his descriptions.. not to mention my ulcer was churning from all that grease! But, the major difference is the climate. England's cold & clammy, so you need all that stuff to keep your guts warm. Maybe not so much today with the way the world works today (not everyone is a hunter/gatherer/farmer/fisherman), but old habits die hard. My mom, who is born & bred a Damned Yankee from upstate NY, would describe a breakfast they'd eat with the .. poached? boiled? goose eggs in bacon fat or lard.. ugh! That's just disgusting. Best breakfast there is, IMO, is menudo, but that's a MAJORLY acquired taste. hmm.. *drool* now I want some menudo. *slurp* I dunno if anyone here would want to eat it.. doubt it. It's a red chile soup (not stew, definite soup) with hominy (a type of corn kernels), fresh onion, cilantro, cumin, oregano, and tripe. Honeycomb tripe is best, but terribly expensive. It's the tripe that trips up most people.. they won't think about eating it (cow intestine). Sure, it's a little spongy, but man oh man is it good! Now I'm drooling..

Lucy - I wish I could say that this wasn't my fault & it's the weather / winter, blahblahblah, but, no, it truly is my fault. I take the blame and I will fix it. Thumbs up Gonna take some time, but I have 4 more months for a small goal, then the rest of my life for the bigger goals.
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Imagevic
Jan 16, 2014 4:57 PM CST
Name: Vicki
North Carolina
My favorite breakfast is goetta and eggs but doubt anyone here even knows what that is. Maybe Larry would. It's German but seems to be almost exclusively Cincinnati Germans. I still buy my pinhead oatmeal in Cincinnati to make it.

Sharon wouldn't eat it for sure Whistling It has pork and beef in it.

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ImageLarryR
Jan 16, 2014 5:13 PM CST
Name: Larry Rettig
South Amana, IA
Great report, JB.

Toni, sending lots of positive vibes your way.

Sharon, hope those three pounds materialize. My sister, Bonnie, has the same reaction to food since she's had the transplant. Can eat maybe a couple of bites and that's it. Or not at all. She's had a low grade temp for some days now, but her doctors are not concerned.
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ImageLarryR
Jan 16, 2014 5:20 PM CST
Name: Larry Rettig
South Amana, IA
Goetta is a German sausage made with both beef and pork. More popular here in Amana is head cheese. Not a cheese, but a mixture of head parts from either cows or pigs. Eyes and ears are not included. Sometimes the heart is, though. It's all held together with an aspic. Really yummy. if you don't think about its origins while you're eating it!
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ImageKyWoods
Jan 16, 2014 5:49 PM CST
Name: Renée
Northern KY
There is a Goetta fest in Cincinnati every year, and goetta is in all the grocery stores and is included in breakfast bars in restaurants. I live right across the river from Cincinnati, so it's considered the "greater Cincinnati area".

I am also in the "chub club" and borderline diabetic. I bought some new walking shoes, and I would have broken them in today if it hadn't been snowing. We only got 1/2 inch, but it was coming down pretty fast for awhile.

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