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Jun 20, 2015 10:53 PM CST
Name: Sharon
And now it's summer!

Happy Summer Solstice, June 21, 2015 at 12:38pm. The sun will shine longer on this day than any other day of the year.

It's only fitting that it falls on Father's Day for most of us. And it's only fitting that Dad is the one who has the seat of honor this evening beneath the old oak tree out in the back yard, while fireflies flit and flutter and light the way for the late sun to set and the moon to rise and families to gather and celebrate, enjoying each other and thanking Dad for all his hard work and the love he's poured on his children, his grandchildren and all the members of his family. Mom brings the cake, still warm from the oven, Dad's favorite, and the grown children prepare the food, the sons manning the grill and the daughters spreading the red and white checked oil cloth over an ancient homemade wooden picnic table and covering it with bowls of potato salad and cole slaw and green beans, a platter of hot corn on the cob freshly buttered and plates of tomatoes and cucumbers and a basket of hot homemade yeast rolls that make our mouths water .

And the little boys run to Grammy and ask for a jar with a lid to catch fireflies and the little girls insist they need to punch holes so the fireflies can breathe. Then dinner is over and tummies are full and children are yawning and Dad gently un-lids the jar of fireflies and like a path that lights its own way, the fireflies glow all the way to the moon and the last ray of sun fades with a whisper and it has been a very good day.

And that was the way it was at my grandparent's house on the hill, June 20, 1948. The war was over, there were 4 grandchildren, 5 families, my grandparents, and all was well with our beautiful world.

Happy Father's Day, I hope you all do something special with this day. And if you have special memories like the one I shared, we'd love to hear about them. I remember the one above because it was the last Father's Day with my own grandfather. He was the only one I ever knew since my paternal grandfather had been killed by a slate fall in a coal mine in SE KY before I was born. He had been checking an area for safety before he allowed his men to go in to work it. I will always have a special place in my heart for my grandfathers.

We came from here:

Thanks Arlene, for this great bouquet.

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Jun 21, 2015 12:22 AM CST
Name: Elena
Middle Tennessee
That is a beautiful post Sharon. I got very nastalgic while reading it. It sounds so much like days in my memories of long ago. Thank you for sharing that with us. Haven't told you this lately but you hold a very special place in my heart along with others I have loved very deeply in my lifetime. Sleep well and have a blessed day tomorrow. Lovey dubby
Jun 21, 2015 12:31 AM CST
Name: Susan Coker
Bartlesville, Oklahoma,zone 6a
That was a beautiful memory. I wish I could write like that. I have some very good memories too. Group hug
Jun 21, 2015 12:50 AM CST
Name: Sharon
I just added a little bit to explain why I remember that particular day so well.

But I forgot the deviled eggs in that special deviled egg platter with the little scoops cut out so the eggs would fit in and wouldn't slip over. It's a little like remembering the 4th of July and watermelon; my cousins and I spit the seeds to see who could spit them farther. We had little tiny flags that we waved around with the sparklers, the only fireworks we were allowed to hold in our hands. More about that on the 4th of July.

Elena, thank you, you always will be much loved by me as well, very special you are.

9Kitty, write like you talk, I love hearing you talk. I would also love hearing about your memories. I remember other posts when you told about your granddaughter and the musicals she was in. That was beautiful writing. Don't ever tell me you have trouble writing, I know better.

Times like this I'd like to hear about Jill's weekend, too (Dayjillymo) I'll bet she's having so much summer fun with her grandchildren. Like Oma, I loved hearing about her little family gathering.

Memories are beautiful things. Even better with the sharing.

I swear it's nearly 2 a.m. Almost time for Vic to rise and shine! Lovey dubby
Jun 21, 2015 4:17 AM CST
Name: Vicki
North Carolina
I'm rising and shining Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Better late than never, eh? Whistling

Oh Sharon, what a beautiful start for this thread. I LOVE LOVED LOVED that story and I pine for those days again. Crying Crying Crying
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Jun 21, 2015 4:31 AM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
Wow Sharon, lovely memories and so similar to a lot of ours.

So sorry Larry about your pond and water problems.

Oma, so happy you got to spend a day with your famly.

Miranda made a nice card for David. He will be surprised. Chances are he won't hear from his own daughters so I am so glad she enjoys his company. His youngest daughter has her plate full with a mother with dementia and her husband 's severe stroke. She barely has any time to spare but I know they are thankful their Dad is happy and still so active and is not alone.

We will have blueberry pancakes for breakfast and a small celebration at Matt's. He has to leave on a trip this morning. Then we will work on mowing the garden and weeding. Maybe I can even pick some more sweet corn for dinner!


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Jun 21, 2015 6:09 AM CST
Name: Vicki
North Carolina
Happy Father's Day from me too to all our dear father's here Lovey dubby

Larry, I hope you're not having to build a boat this morning. Crying Group hug
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Jun 21, 2015 7:12 AM CST
Name: Mary
The dry side of Oregon
Be yourself, you can be no one else
A new season, a new thread. Thank you, Sharon. And thank you for sharing the memory of that special Father's Day celebration.

I'm thinking of Larry and Wilma this morning, wondering how they fared in the storms. Happy Father's Day, Larry.

Our temperature cooled off to 50 by 5 this morning. Like yesterday, the sky is somewhat cloudy, the kind that will burn off when the sun comes up. I always feel like the season is a bit goofy when we are just getting started with summer at the same time that the days stop lengthening. Somehow, in my mind, it doesn't match. At this time in Alaska, a person can still read a newspaper outside at midnight. The sun does go behind the horizon, but only for a few short hours, and it doesn't really get dark, just sort of twilight. Of course, that is reversed in the winter. Talk about long nights!

We got an email from our daughter yesterday saying that she fell from a step stool while painting some house trim, and tore her ACL. She's had an MRI, the tear is a bad one. Crutches for now, hopefully some careful weight bearing soon, and she will have surgery after they return from Romania. This will make the administration of the youth camps even more of a challenge. The camp property is in the mountains, and everything is up and down hills. It's about a month before they go. By then she will have figured out how to get around better than she does now.

I think my Hubby might like to celebrate Father's Day with a non-diet extravigance. ( I miss my spell check! Don't know how to get it back.)
Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most.
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Jun 21, 2015 8:57 AM CST
Name: Toni
Denver Metro, Zone 5
Too many cats!!
Last Thursday was my father's 75th birthday, today is not only fayhers day but also my parents' 51st anniversary. My mom is pretty much doing ok, which is what is important, I dont think that the shock has truly hit her yet as she is used to being by herself in the summer. this winter.. now thats another story.

Hope everyone is having a wonderful sunday!! Too hottodo much today outside & I ache too much todo much, so I guess I'll bebe painting today & then going to the movies. Gotta prep for tomorrow.. not looking forward to it.
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Jun 21, 2015 10:02 AM CST
Name: Sharon
Holidays and memories hit us hard sometimes, but mostly when we least expect it. It seems as if as long as my Mom was living after Dad passed, I was so busy making sure Mom was busy and doing well, I didn't think too much about the day. My children were growing up and we'd have little celebrations for my husband but the day was not empty for me. Dad loved to read and I gave him a lot of books on Father's Days so I just turned that around and began to give Mom books on those kinds of days instead. It was sort of a transition. But after Mom passed, I think I mourned every holiday. It was just weird. It was one of those 'I'm an orphan moments.' Crazy because I was by then in my 50s with grown children, but I kept thinking about having no parents to turn to, to celebrate. Just weird, the things our emotions do.

I'll tell you something, as we age, we need to gain strength. We need to accumulate it because along the way we find ourselves bearing burdens alone and some so heavy we think we are not strong enough for it; so we really need to get stronger even as our bodies slowly grow a little weaker.

Ha. My little life lesson for the day. Strong inside, no matter how battered we are on the outside.

Larry, y'all better be OK. I think you are one of the strongest men I know, strong inside. No matter what happens around you, you are strong and handle it so well. I believe most of our men here are like that, incredibly strong.

I was thinking about that daylily this morning, Larry's Poppa Daylily. I was thinking that you'd need to mate it with a very dark wine colored Mom so the blue would diminish from the Poppa. Red has blue in it if it is that magenta color. Of course I'm speaking of pigment and the light spectrum. Larry probably has an established plan.

I need more coffee.

I hope for all of you a stress free day!
Jun 21, 2015 10:24 AM CST
Name: Vicki
North Carolina
Your life lesson is very true Sharon Lovey dubby Crying Group hug Group hug
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Jun 21, 2015 11:46 AM CST
Name: Larry Rettig
South Amana, IA
Thanks for the Father's Day wishes, y'all. Lovey dubby

Charlie, is there a Father's Day in Canada as well?

That was such a marvelous memory, Sharon. All the food you mentioned was exactly what we had on Father's Day picnics. Did your deviled eggs have paprika sprinkled on top?

And speaking of food, Arlene, blueberry pancakes/muffins and sweet corn fresh from the garden are two of my very favorites. Lucky you! (Our sweet corn is not even knee high yet.)

Mary, you might want to try downloading a spell checker. Here is one that sounds like it's legitimate and does a good job: I've not used it, so I can't give you my personal opinion. As with any download, be careful as you go along, so that you don't let the program install other software that you don't need.

Sharon, I've been told that it's very difficult to get red into daylilies with other colors. Your suggestion sounds plausible, and I'll give it a try. My other strategy is to see what happens if I use a "white" cultivar that has the same kind of eye with a red cultivar that has a tendency toward a similar eye, e.g.:

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Navajo Princess

The storm: We got 2.2 inches of rain in less than an hour. South Amana is situated on a gradual incline, so water drains very well. Wish I could say the same about our basement. The standing water is gone, but the floors are still very damp. I've ordered a second dehumidifier, which hopefully will help things dry out faster.

After the storm:

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Mammatus clouds

Blooming for the first time today:

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Jun 21, 2015 12:09 PM CST
Name: Larry Rettig
South Amana, IA
Perhaps a red like Doug's Red Mercedes, where the eye already has a tendency to move up into the petals:

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Jun 21, 2015 12:24 PM CST
Name: Sharon
Yes paprika, Larry, covering the yellow and slightly dusting the white.

And yes, Doug's Red Mercedes. Just like that, it might work. I think the white cultivar might simply give you pink. Once you add white, you end up most often with pastels. The markings might be great, but the color might be more pastel.

Love those storm cloud pictures!!
Jun 21, 2015 1:29 PM CST
Name: Margaret
BC, Can.
Happy Father's Day to all the dads!! Yes we celebrate here.

Larry those cloud photos are great! And I love your daylilies, you have some beauties.

Serge is coming home from Montreal today. Hurray!
Jun 21, 2015 2:23 PM CST
Name: Mary
The dry side of Oregon
Be yourself, you can be no one else
When I was here earlier, I neglected to wish Charlie a Happy Father's Day, so now I will. Happy Father's Day Charlie. Different country.... might celebrate it on a different day, or not celebrate it at all.

Today I am replanting a lot of my garden. Kind of late for some things, but there is a chance the corn will have time to mature. Beans ok, they don't take so long. Old seed didn't germinate well, and I think I also let the seedbeds dry out at critical times. This time they get a light cover of straw mulch. I have a wheelbarrow full of grass clippings that I considered using, but decided they have too many weed seeds. I don't need to be planting weeds. They'll go around the rhubarb where it doesn't matter.

Larry, thank you for that link. I know so little about this machine that I really hesitate to download anything. Our daughter does stuff like that for me when she comes. That isn't likely to be for several months..... so if I did allow something in.... I would have a mess and would have to take the computer to a shop. I have noticed that these machines are set up for people who know what they are doing. I have no idea what the automatic download thing did with spell check. It was here, then it wasn't.

The daylily pictures are so pretty! I hope you can develop just what you want. The cloud pictures are very interesting. I have seen clouds like those, and never thought to wonder about a name for them.
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Jun 21, 2015 3:24 PM CST
Name: Sharon
If I remember, Charlie might have said his latest trip where he heard his son speak about historical things was a Father's Day treat. I could just as easily be wrong about that but seems like. . .

I hesitate to say anything about anybody's computer because Macs are so different, so I'm no help at all, Mary. I learn a lot by googling, though.

Happy to hear from you, Margaret. And happy that Serge is coming home today too.
Jun 21, 2015 3:25 PM CST
Name: aka GardenQuilts
Facebook, NGA
and the beloved Winston the pug
Your heartfelt father's day memories make me wish that I were born to a happy southern family If the Buddhists are right about reincarnation, maybe next time around!

I wouldn't mind being a butterfly today, coasting on the warm breezes, feasting on the sweet nectar in the final flush of the woodland phlox.

It is so hot today that my Shepard's hooks fainted! They are leaning over from heat exhaustion. It is a challenge to sink posts in the garden - impossible to find a place without rocks! One could try using a sledge hammer, but them the hooks would bend or break. I try to wedge them among sturdy branches of short shrubs or wedge them between large rocks, but have difficulty installing a hook to hold anything heavier than a hummingbird feeder.

I am catching up with indoor tasks. The main wall air conditioner in the living room can't keep up with the heat. I'll talk to the landlord about it. I am grateful for the window unit in the bedroom. It is the most comfortable room in the house!

I am sure that you have plenty of market followers who love you beautiful flower arrangements, Arlene. I wish there were a market like yours close to my house.

I got a special treat at the grocery store - fresh cherries. I am savoring each jewel of a fruit.

Too tired to type. Back to the laundry machine and my other tasks. I am going to fix an EmergenC pineapple coconut drink and pretend it is a pina colada!
Jun 21, 2015 3:43 PM CST
Name: Lucy
Hamilton, MA
Beautiful memories Sharon, but it is the family gathering not Father's Day which is important. Before WW II my parents put a one room (study, call the den) onto the house 7 a screen in porch which had its own fireplace. We had cooked our picnics in the back yard before & being inside screens kept the bugs away. He then built a picnic table. Not a Father's Day celebration as my parents considered it just a commercial holiday (Mother's Day as well). Birthdays were important as well the 4th of July.

Over an inch of rain last night through this morning. I hope that it sunk into the garden & isn't dry underneath.
Jun 21, 2015 4:01 PM CST
Name: Sharon
Andi, you make me laugh. A fainting shepherd's hook, excellent way of saying it. Melting would have meant it was bending. I love your words. Sunshine is snoozing at the end of my bed, the coolest room in the house. She's been there most of the afternoon.

Lucy, I've often wondered about other family events, they all were centered around the old oak tree and the picnics were much the same. I think I don't remember much about 1946 or 47 because those were my polio years but by '48 I was pretty much well and went to school that fall. Though there had been other events, it seems to be the only time I have clear family memories. All the men were home, everybody was happy and food was plenty. And I do remember the slight crackle of the red checked oil cloth table cover, it took 4 women to flop it around till the wind caught it like a kite from beneath, and then bring it down to the table, almost wrinkle free with a final puff of air beneath it. I can still see that.

Your home sounds perfect for family gatherings, Lucy. So glad you shared those descriptions.

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