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ImageJRsbugs
Feb 28, 2010 1:20 PM CST
Name: Janet
Near Lincoln UK
Hello to all,

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ImageJRsbugs
Mar 9, 2010 3:07 PM CST
Name: Janet
Near Lincoln UK
Wow Myriam, it certainly is a beautiful design! I'm going to go on a virtual Cicada hunt.... Rolling my eyes. Big Grin

Cicada
Imagebonitin
Mar 9, 2010 3:11 PM CST
Name: Myriam
Gent, Belgium
Thanks, Janet!
I fell in love with them! Big Grin
ImageJRsbugs
Mar 9, 2010 3:18 PM CST
Name: Janet
Near Lincoln UK
bonitin wrote:Thanks, Janet!
I fell in love with them! Big Grin


Who could not fall in love with them! Lovey dubby

You didn't put a few in your luggage to bring home? Big Grin
Imagebonitin
Mar 9, 2010 3:46 PM CST
Name: Myriam
Gent, Belgium
Oh noo I wouldn't have the heart to do that, poor things in that horrible Bbbbbbbbrrrrrrrr...weather Rolling my eyes.
ImageJRsbugs
Mar 9, 2010 4:57 PM CST
Name: Janet
Near Lincoln UK
Oh I never thought of the Bbbbbbrrrrrrr weather! I'm so used to it, I barely notice it any more... Rolling my eyes. Whistling

I loooove this one too, such a good shot!

night of 16th Febr.
ImageJRsbugs
Mar 10, 2010 1:33 PM CST
Name: Janet
Near Lincoln UK
I found an empty Cicada case which looks the same as your orange one! I've been to Brazil... Hilarious!

Empty Cicada shell

This site is dedicated to world Cicada..

cicadamania

The empty shell I found in a link in the Paraguay section....but it was unidentified.

faunaparaguay

Imagebonitin
Mar 10, 2010 5:15 PM CST
Name: Myriam
Gent, Belgium
Hilarious! Janet!
I have more pics of empty cidada shells but of a more dull greyish brown-black colour..
The Paraguay site gives interesting info!

I don't know how I came upon this web page after digging deeper into one your links..
It's in Portugese but you can use the Google translation button if you don't mind some funny English! Big Grin

http://www.agrov.com/animais/peq_ani/cigarra.htm

I copy part of the English 'translation':
" Only the male sings. The female, as well as changes, is almost deaf - which would explain the loud singing partner, to be noticed," Rolling on the floor laughing

ImageJRsbugs
Mar 10, 2010 5:34 PM CST
Name: Janet
Near Lincoln UK
Oh yes, I found that link too when googling I think! Poor male! I read somewhere about people in Brazil complaining about all the noise they make! Rolling on the floor laughing

It's amazing what can be found by following the correct links.

I did a lot of searching for wasps but couldn't find much, apart from one family which eat the larva of Scarabidae beetles. That is Scoliidae but so far I can't find anything close apart from a sawfly! Yours has a wasp waist. Rolling my eyes.
Imagebonitin
Mar 11, 2010 3:23 AM CST
Name: Myriam
Gent, Belgium
With your info I've also been searching for a while and found some pdf-texts with 'Scoliidae do Brasil' but very little immage material...
Though it has such a distinct features it might be hard to find..
Yes, it has a wasp waist, so perhaps not a Sawfly anyway then ? The shape of the front wings is also unusual, when I saw it from a distance I thought it was a small butterfly..
ImageJRsbugs
Mar 11, 2010 6:42 AM CST
Name: Janet
Near Lincoln UK
Let's put a link to the beast itself..

Orange & Black Wasp

I would say it is a wasp due to the narrow waist, the antennae are very unusual though! This might be an exception, but I'm searching Hymenoptera anyway. The Sawfly I found had hind legs like crab claws! The wings on yours are held in a strange position, yes it reminds me of a butterfly sunning itself.
Imagebonitin
Mar 11, 2010 7:39 AM CST
Name: Myriam
Gent, Belgium
Another weird thing about the wings is that it looks like they have hairs, I don't know any wasp with hair on the wings..??
And yes the antennae are very strange too, they remind me a little of moths..
ImageJRsbugs
Mar 11, 2010 8:33 AM CST
Name: Janet
Near Lincoln UK
bonitin wrote:Another weird thing about the wings is that it looks like they have hairs, I don't know any wasp with hair on the wings..??
And yes the antennae are very strange too, they remind me a little of moths..


The tiny Fairyflies have hairs on the wings, but they are very different. Hmmm, maybe there is a moth connection here, is there a moth which it's trying to mimic I wonder? A moth parasite? Maybe that's another search angle we could try, Lepidoptera Hymenoptera parasites.
ImageJRsbugs
Mar 11, 2010 9:12 AM CST
Name: Janet
Near Lincoln UK
Take a look at the description of Scoliidae on this site..

Hymenoptera Family Characters
Imagebonitin
Mar 11, 2010 9:29 AM CST
Name: Myriam
Gent, Belgium
I did! Smiling
They say hairy, but that only counts for its body not the wings, the example image they give of the one in Florida looks very different than mine ...?
Imagebonitin
Mar 11, 2010 9:34 AM CST
Name: Myriam
Gent, Belgium
Perhaps some cropped pics could be useful, they said something about a feature on the eye.."May have notch on anterior margin of eye"

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Imagebonitin
Mar 11, 2010 9:39 AM CST
Name: Myriam
Gent, Belgium
..antennae..

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Imagebonitin
Mar 11, 2010 9:45 AM CST
Name: Myriam
Gent, Belgium
the hairy wing..

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Imagebonitin
Mar 11, 2010 9:51 AM CST
Name: Myriam
Gent, Belgium
...better put the whole wasp here too to make it more easy.. Rolling my eyes.

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ImageJRsbugs
Mar 11, 2010 12:55 PM CST
Name: Janet
Near Lincoln UK
The wings do look hairy! The description of wings states:

Quoting:Apex of forewing showing wrinkles


There is a link showing a wing, I can see wrinkles on the lower wing in your pic.

Perhaps you could try posting this on the Hymis forum?

I still haven't got around to doing that, I need another me. Rolling my eyes.

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