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Imagevalleylynn
Jul 11, 2010 3:11 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR zone 8
I have used Al's recipe with just a bit more MG added to the mix. I use Turface and not sure how that compares to kitty litter. I also use the chicken grit (Cherry Stone) from out local feed store.
I just this morning un-potted one of my semps grown in Al's Potting Recipe, it had the most awesome, healthy roots. Seems as though the mix not only drains well, but the Turface holds some moisture that slowly releases to the plant roots without suffocating them. I am a firm believer now. I do have to say I was quite skeptical up until last month. So glad I did the experiment Al recommended.
Imageclintbrown
Jul 12, 2010 5:20 AM CST
Name: Clint Brown
Medina, TN
aka Echinaceamaniac
I have had good luck with succulents in the mix too. I am using an aquarium to grow them in. I got sick of taking care of fish and converted the aquarium into a desert. I water it once a month. So far so good!
Imagecoconut
Jul 12, 2010 5:27 AM CST
Name: Melissa E. Keyes
St. Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands
Zone 11
Nobody really said that kitty litter is the same thing, tho' it was suggested. SO, I plan to buy a bag of the cheap stuff, not the clumping, and not the kind with all the perfumes. If I can find plain kitty litter! Say, would an automotive store have the same thing, for sopping up oil on a garage floor? Just thought of that...

I'll post my efforts.
Melissa

Imageclintbrown
Jul 12, 2010 7:08 AM CST
Name: Clint Brown
Medina, TN
aka Echinaceamaniac
Awesome, Melissa. That other stuff is very hard to find around here!
Imagevalleylynn
Jul 12, 2010 8:18 AM CST
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR zone 8
I think I saw somewhere in the posts where it was suggested to get the stuff from the automotive store. It would be just the plain stuff.
Imagecoconut
Jul 12, 2010 9:42 AM CST
Name: Melissa E. Keyes
St. Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands
Zone 11
I'm about to run errands, will check on it, read label and note price. Will report back later.
Melissa

Imagevalleylynn
Jul 12, 2010 11:00 AM CST
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR zone 8
Thumbs up
Imagecoconut
Jul 12, 2010 5:37 PM CST
Name: Melissa E. Keyes
St. Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands
Zone 11
Well, no luck at the hardware store(automotive dept, no garages here, truly) and the grocery store only had the chemical kind.

Maybe tomorrow.....
Melissa

Imagetomatofreak
Jul 12, 2010 6:30 PM CST
Name: Alma
Phoenix & Cottonwood, AZ
USDA zone 9b, Sunset 13 & ??
Melissa, I think you can use plain ol' Johnny Cat - nothing in it but clay.
Alma
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. – Thomas Jefferson
Imagecoconut
Jul 12, 2010 6:53 PM CST
Name: Melissa E. Keyes
St. Croix, U.S. Virgin Islands
Zone 11
That's what I'm looking for, but the stores here are not very much the same as in the States. They have what they have, and that's it. Like as if you were wayyyy out in nowwhere. There are two towns here, each with a population of about 10,000.

I need some food quality Diatomaceous Earth, and didn't buy the one bag that I saw about a month ago. I might never see any again! Seriously. (for worming my chickens)

I'll keep shopping, and will report as I go.
Melissa

Imagericeke
Jul 13, 2010 6:25 AM CST
Name: Ken Zone 7b/8
Snellville, GA
tomatofreak wrote:

Are you sure "crushed granite" is as fine as chicken grit? In this part of the country it's also known as 1/4 minus, granite with pieces as big as 1/4 inch but mostly fines.

When you say Turface is non-clumping kitty litter, do you mean the old-fashioned clay litter? Like the original Johnny Cat?

I am doing so badly with succulents and the like that I really need to make my own 'soil'; I just want to be sure I do it right.


Tomatofreak....sorry to get back to you so late, but yes chicken grit is crushed granite (small size) and turkey grit (larger size) is granite also available at most feed stores called Grani-Grit. The cheap kitty litter "Johnny Cat" is fired clay with no clumping formula. Do not use the clumping type kitty litter. If you go with Johnny Cat you'll be okay. Succulents need fast draining soil. Sand works as well with a little chicken grit mixed in. I think the biggest problem with succulents is over-watering in heavy soils and under-watering in light soils. I've lost a few myself until I discovered this. Also what will determine your frequency of watering is if it's exposed to full sun or shade. Let them dry out between watering in any case. They do not like consistently wet soil. Hope this helps.
Imagetomatofreak
Jul 13, 2010 9:01 AM CST
Name: Alma
Phoenix & Cottonwood, AZ
USDA zone 9b, Sunset 13 & ??
Yes, it does. Thank you!
Alma
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. – Thomas Jefferson

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