Cubit OWNER issues forum: Opening up the talk for commerce

 
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ImagePollyK
Aug 14, 2010 10:29 PM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

I think to just collect the 3.5% would be fine for me. I wouldn't mind a bit taking the time to do that for the few sellers we would have. Part of the bonus of belonging to the cubit.
Imagevalleylynn
Aug 14, 2010 10:47 PM CST
Name: Lynn
Dallas, OR zone 8
I would like to see none cubit owners able to sell. We have some very talented people with awesome things to sell that don't have a cubit. Is there a way to set that up?
Imagestormyla
Aug 14, 2010 10:51 PM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
Maybe somebody would want to start a cubit that's just for those people. Someone who wouldn't mind doing all of the bookeeping.
ImageBudgielover
Aug 14, 2010 11:38 PM CST
Name: Jan
St. Pete,FL
I have 2 cubits, Garden Marketplace and "Cubits Classifieds". I think both would greatly benefit.
http://cubits.org/Parkside/store/BRAND NEW ITEMS LISTED - MOST UNDER $10
Imagegoldfinch4
Aug 15, 2010 4:22 AM CST
Name: Chris
Wisconsin z4
I'm one of those that would love to sell but don't want to set up my own cubit. I just don't have the time.....

I like Stormy's idea: "However, if there were some sort of a streamlined mini version with limited features and complexity of a cubit, they might go for it. A"store front" type of cubit. Perhaps pre formatted with a nice selection of themes to choose from."
ImageTrish
Aug 15, 2010 7:00 AM CST
Name: Trish Whitinger
Jacksonville, TX
Helper and Wife of the Cubit Master
I really wondered if this would come up.

Polly, you are correct in thinking that we want people to set up their own cubit for the bookkeeping issues. That's why I suggested to Arlene that she does her cookbook selling separate. However, "your cubit, your rules" still apply here. If you want people to sell irises off your cubit, go for it.

As for a general cubit...We'll talk about that.

I assumed that the majority of folks would rather like to have their own storefront with their own banner and such. And their own control- selling under a main cubit would mean that you are under that cubit's rules. It's the rest that we'll have to think about.
My little spot
NOW SHIPPING: soy candles, mango body butter, and peppermint foot cream
Imagegone2seed
Aug 15, 2010 7:15 AM CST
Name: JT Sessions
Milton,Fl.
Trish,if you and Dave set up the main cubit there should be no problems.You would also be able to control the inevitable idiots that would come in.Remember the "Marketplace"?That one worked just fine and you had control.
ImageTwinLakesChef
Aug 15, 2010 7:16 AM CST
Name: Arlene Marshall
Twin Lakes, IA & Orange, CA
Zone 4B
I'll just do the cookbook sales in Yum. Dea and I will handle her getting half of the profits. It's really not an issue with us.
Yum Yum Divas ~ ~ "Most recipes are not invention . . . but evolutions"
Imagethreegardeners
Aug 15, 2010 7:23 AM CST
Name: Lee Anne Stark
Ontario, Canada
Perpetually happy!
I'm torn on this issue.

I'd love to sell things in my own Cubit...but the advantages of having one main "selling cubit" are many.

Folks have a better chance of finding our things in one big sales area as compared to 300 different Cubits selling a lot of the same stuff.

Why can't we have the best of both worlds? Sell stuff in our own Cubits but at the same time have our things "plugged in" to Dave's main selling area if we want more visibility?

I'd gladly pay a percentage for visibility and ease of use. If a Cubit owner doesn't want to share for the use of it then they can still sell in their Cubit if they want.
ImageTwinLakesChef
Aug 15, 2010 7:27 AM CST
Name: Arlene Marshall
Twin Lakes, IA & Orange, CA
Zone 4B
How about Dave & Trish set up one along the lines of the Master Database? It would have a header, in my case, cookbooks. You click on it and it takes you into my cubit forum that lists cookbooks for sale. I'm sure Dave has this sorta in his plan.

Think about it; when you click on an article to read it, you have been sent to a cubit and you hardly realize it. But it puts you in the right place. Same would go for sales.
Yum Yum Divas ~ ~ "Most recipes are not invention . . . but evolutions"
Imagethreegardeners
Aug 15, 2010 7:30 AM CST
Name: Lee Anne Stark
Ontario, Canada
Perpetually happy!
I like that concept. Only problem would be if there were 20 Cubits with cookbooks for sale....then maybe the Cookbook header would take you to a page with the listed cookbooks and when the customer clicks on one he/she likes, then it will take you to that particular Cubit.
Imagestarlight1153
Aug 15, 2010 7:38 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
I like the idea of a a separate commercial. There are a lot of sellers on cubits that have stores out in other places. Those store names may be different than what their cubit name is. Some folks have like different divisions of a company.

Having stores separate allows folks kinda separate their cubit business form sale s if they want. For example say you have a buyer for something and they not happy, by having the cubit- stores that allows cubit owners to kinda handle business in a business area and maybe prevent a possible overflow into their cubit causing conflict between members.

Their are those folks that may already have stores set up somewhere, and they may not want to run a full fledge cubit but have a store. They can set set up a simple cubit, one or two forums, and let folks know when their store be open and special deals or sales. A perfect example is Bleeks cubit. His forum is mainly for announcements and he does a lot of seasonal, now he can post in his cubit and if he has a store he can send them right to it instead to other websites he has.

Uniqueness and individuality is what cubits is all about, so I think if we want we should be able to make our own store fronts.
I already asked Zany to design me a logo for the new store. I love it, Thumbs up She has the PlayPen for folks to learn in, but she also has the Play Pen Graphics where anybody can go and get help for free.
http://cubits.org/PlaypenGraphics/ with lots of free stuff and help in case ya didn't know.








ImageTrish
Aug 15, 2010 7:40 AM CST
Name: Trish Whitinger
Jacksonville, TX
Helper and Wife of the Cubit Master
LeeAnn- absolutely there would be a main searching that would look at all of the cubits!

JT, yes- you are right. However, to the seller, there are many distinct advantages to having your own storefront. That's the control that we want to give people. Not to mention the ability to be much much bigger than anything they could accomplish on that other project.

Take a look at how Etsy is laid out. If you do a search through the front page, you will see ALL of the products that match your search criteria. From all of the different stores. If you click on a product that you are interested in, you are sent to that seller's storefront. Each seller is required to set up their own store front. You can purchase that single item, or you can browse through their other items and purchase more than one thing at a time. You can also only go directly to that person's storefront, bypassing the other sellers if you have a seller who's product you trust and will buy again and again.

With one storefront, the system is clunky because there is no way to do things like multiple purchases from the same seller automatically. It is up to the seller to see the orders, contact the buyer and arrange payment and shipping. It works, but it isn't very proficient, or professional. If you only sell a couple of things per year, that might be ok. But if you are looking to make your own little cottage business- we would think that you want more.
My little spot
NOW SHIPPING: soy candles, mango body butter, and peppermint foot cream
Imagestarlight1153
Aug 15, 2010 7:42 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Lee Anne. There no reason you can't do both. I plan on it, been working on it for awhile. Some folks may prefer the cosines of a single cubit to shop, some may like going to a structured set-up. This way you hopefully cover everybody.
ImagePollyK
Aug 15, 2010 10:02 AM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

Trish, I'm for it either or any way. I had just had some people approach me about selling irises on the iris cubit, and we were going to accomodate that. Some of these people may not want to set up their own cubit. But if they do, I would be glad to help them. But you know I'll be happy with whatever you do.

One thing I like is that maybe we will have some control over the selling of items on Cubits. Not that I think you should be responsible for the sales, but for example: I purchased some daylilies on the daylily forum from a private individual. I was in contact with her by cmail for the transaction. Then she took down the ad, and did not answer my cmail. So, I was getting a little nervous. I finally heard from her. And there doesn't appear to be any problem, but the fact the ad was gone was a little scary.
ImageTrish
Aug 15, 2010 10:35 AM CST
Name: Trish Whitinger
Jacksonville, TX
Helper and Wife of the Cubit Master
Polly- it's a really good to bring up these sorts of things. Rather than dictating, we'd rather hear from the sellers. For sure, you will be free to allow sellers onto your store- that's your call. We'll be discussing a central store, or forcing everyone into their own cubit. It's great to get feedback that says people would like to have the option. The question then becomes if it fits into our model, or not.

This sentence is the start of the conversations that we'll be having over the next week or two:
Quoting:One thing I like is that maybe we will have some control over the selling of items on Cubits.


Please be thinking about what exactly you'd like to see, and how you'd like it to work.

I'll say this for the record: Cubits.org (i.e. Dave and I) will not get involved in any business transaction that occurs on the site. All transactions will be between the buyer and the seller only. Buyer's risk. And I know how to keep my nose out of people's business, so when I say we won't get involved, that's exactly what I mean.

I know your statement had nothing to do with that, Polly. I just wanted to get that in the open. Having the tools to protect the buyers and sellers as much as possible is the goal, and I'm excited to hear what ideas you all have!

My little spot
NOW SHIPPING: soy candles, mango body butter, and peppermint foot cream
Imagestormyla
Aug 15, 2010 10:49 AM CST
Name: Stormy
Valley Forge Pa
I Love MAM ~ So Happy Together
Star, I wasn't implying that people couldn't design their own storefront, just suggesting that if some ready made templates were available, people might embrace the idea quicker and more easily. Good point about Zany, but I don't know how many she would be willing to do.

This whole conversation leads to Trish & Dave running an Ebay type of operation. I thought that the whole premise of Cubits is that they would be independent of the actual business of the cubits and not regulatory in hardly any fashion at all. A central store puts them right back into the hot spot.
ImagePollyK
Aug 15, 2010 10:53 AM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

I'm glad you realized what I was tryng to say, Trish, as I certainly would not expect you to have any involvement in the transaction.

I would like the sale info to somehow stay up, either permanently, or until all transactions are completed. I also guess I would like the sellers to have to put in a permant location their contact information.

I wish there was some way we could have a place for feedback, but this is so subjective. I see on the GardenWatchdog people putting bad ratings in just because they don't like someone. It's more objective for the large companies, but I think it would become an area to snipe at individual sellers.

ImagePollyK
Aug 15, 2010 10:58 AM CST
Name: Polly Kinsman
Hannibal, NY

I don't really agree Mary. I think the individual Cubits will still go along very well on their own, unlike the forums on DG. I think Trish and Dave will be keeping this enough seperate from the indiviual Cubits.

I'm very for the idea. I think this will give the small business world a wonderful boost. Having a website made is not cheap. This will bring the chance to sell to a lot of people that would not normally be able to, except through Ebay. And a lot of people are sick of Ebay.
Imagestarlight1153
Aug 15, 2010 11:10 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
one thing I would like to see become available is some sort of easy checkout, like where folks can hit the paypal button if they want.

People like to window shop and then shop, but when it comes to check out, the easier and simpler it is for them, the more they will be tempted to shop.

Maybe too the possibility of a part at the bottom where you could have " you might be interested in buying this also, type thing, that you could or could not use if ya wanted, or maybe if I only have one item and say somebody else on another cubit selling something that might compliment my item I could put you might be interested in this item, and it be a link to that other cubit.

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