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ImagePNWGal
Dec 4, 2014 3:05 PM CST
Name: Linda
Portland OR, zone 8b
And yet Tyrian purple is a reddish-purple, like so many of our "purple" dahlias - so maybe we are using the right word after all!

Ew, snail snot!
ImageBenny101
Dec 4, 2014 3:37 PM CST
Greenville MI - zone 5b
People here often refur to light purple or lavender as " violet or lilac "
Some of the purple chips on the ADS color chart look full out blue to me , the longer I'm on this cubits the more I discover how little I know about color .
Imageteddahlia
Dec 4, 2014 4:10 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
The house paint companies have named all their own colors and at every company they are different. Each company has hundreds of them and introduce new ones each year. Very few are descriptive enough to tell you the color without looking at the color chip. On computer websites for text and backgrounds and I believe even pictures, there are 256 named colors. Those names are not very popular with people either. As someone previously mentioned, the 64 Crayola Crayon colors each have a name and those names may be more popular than most. Outrageous Orange used to be one of the names and we named a seedling that name. It was a loser and we never kept it past the second year.
Here is link to the crayola names:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Crayola_crayon_colors
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
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ImageBenny101
Dec 4, 2014 4:19 PM CST
Greenville MI - zone 5b
Interesting , I like " Laser Lemon "
Imageteddahlia
Dec 4, 2014 4:47 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
I just noticed that the crayola Cotton Candy is more or less the color of Hollyhill Cotton Candy.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImagePNWGal
Dec 4, 2014 5:15 PM CST
Name: Linda
Portland OR, zone 8b
Wow, I can date my childhood from the color names I recognize! Rolling my eyes.
anniecan
Dec 4, 2014 5:17 PM CST
Name: Annie Luck
Apex, North Carolina
BE THE CHANGE YOU WANT TO SEE IN TH
I am showing my age....
I didn't even know there was a crayon called Cotton Candy Shrug!
I grew up with the 12 pack.
...felt so rich when I was buying my kids the 64 pack! It's a good life! Thumbs up
ImageCCvacation
Dec 5, 2014 10:32 AM CST
Name: CC
PA
I moved the discussion of Rivers Purple Pinwheel and other Novelty forms to:
http://cubits.org/dahlias/thread/view/80663/

Here's the post that started that discussion...

PNWGal wrote:Thought I would toss in pix of a couple of the new purples that I posted on the wish list thread:
Thumb of 2014-12-04/PNWGal/875115 River's Purple Pinwheel

Thumb of 2014-12-04/PNWGal/795f32 Skipley Ida Bella, with Barbara's Favorite

CC
ImageIslander
Dec 5, 2014 3:02 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
ON THE CRAYON COLORS

I see my knowledge of crayons stopped sometime in the late 1970's. I had no idea! I think I need to go out and buy the biggest box of them I can find and start coloring just to stay current!

Salish Dahlias
ImageBenny101
Dec 5, 2014 4:54 PM CST
Greenville MI - zone 5b
Yeah we need a color by number dahlia book :-)

I noticed Connie using a " purplish " color yarn last night and found the color was called " Orchid " . I searched the color and no wonder there is confusion amongst colors they describe it as having 3 or more tones , to me "grayish purple" and reddish purple should not share the same name .

Wikipedia
Orchid is a bright rich purple color that is a representation of the color of the orchidaceae flower.
Various tones of orchid may range from grayish purple to purplish-pink to strong reddish purple.
The first recorded use of orchid as a color name in English was in 1915.[2]



Thumb of 2014-12-05/Benny101/2c2669
ImageIslander
Dec 5, 2014 5:28 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
OH my goodness, a paint by number dahlia painting kit OR, a Dahlia coloring book with many pages of the basic shapes so you can design your own variety! I can't think of a more fun way to use some boring winter hours!
Salish Dahlias
ImagePNWGal
Dec 5, 2014 7:03 PM CST
Name: Linda
Portland OR, zone 8b
Look at all the colors out there that are named after flowers!
So how come nobody has come up with a color called "dahlia"? Whistling
ImageIslander
Dec 5, 2014 7:22 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
Which dahlia would you prefer was named "Dahlia Colored", Linda? Hilarious!
Salish Dahlias
ImageBenny101
Dec 5, 2014 7:30 PM CST
Greenville MI - zone 5b
The " Dahlia" color would be blue of coarse I tip my hat to you.
ImageIslander
Dec 5, 2014 9:20 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
Benny... Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
Salish Dahlias
Imageteddahlia
Dec 5, 2014 11:59 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
Wayne Holland named his originations "Hy". He released them through Ferncliff Dahlias. Wayne stopped breeding dahlias about 5 years ago and moved further East in Canada where dahlias do not grow well. I believe he is into grapes now. He was a professional plant breeder. He worked with Wayne Shantz to develop some purple dahlias and Shantz came up with Esmerelda and then quit breeding. Esmerelda unfortunately is not a real blue purple but is definitely purple. Blue purple is very hard to get even when a professional breeder is working on it. And remember that Gordon Leroux of Kenora Dahlias worked for the last five or so years of his life to get a large purple dahlia to name after his wife. He had Parkinsons and grew 2600 seedlings the last year and never was able to get that large purple dahlia that would have been named Kenora Jeannie. So I hope that people appreciate the purple dahlias that we do have and realize how hard they were to breed.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
Imagecrittergarden
Dec 6, 2014 7:02 AM CST
Islander wrote:ON THE CRAYON COLORS

I see my knowledge of crayons stopped sometime in the late 1970's. I had no idea! I think I need to go out and buy the biggest box of them I can find and start coloring just to stay current!



I think that is a wonderful plan!
Imagecrittergarden
Dec 6, 2014 7:13 AM CST
OK, I'm not in a position to quote this ver batum but I learned from Radiolab (NPR show) that "red" and "blue" were not in the ancient literature. Blood was referred to as black, the sea was black (I think), and the sky was NOT referred to as blue - the sky was not assigned a color because it was not a "thing" it was empty space.

In light of all this and our conversation on the color purple, I am beginning to relate color to women's clothing sizes - let's revamp the naming system to have some base in reality! I like the Pantone (art) system, myself, but am not even familiar with the science based system. For the sake of clarity though, SOME standardization is needed!

Here:
"What is the color of honey, and "faces pale with fear"? If you're Homer--one of the most influential poets in human history--that color is green. And the sea is "wine-dark," just like oxen...though sheep are violet. Which all sounds...well, really off. Producer Tim Howard introduces us to linguist Guy Deutscher, and the story of William Gladstone (a British Prime Minister back in the 1800s, and a huge Homer-ophile). Gladstone conducted an exhaustive study of every color reference in The Odyssey and The Iliad. And he found something startling: No blue! Tim pays a visit to the New York Public Library, where a book of German philosophy from the late 19th Century helps reveal a pattern: across all cultures, words for colors appear in stages. And blue always comes last. Jules Davidoff, professor of neuropsychology at the University of London, helps us make sense of the way different people see different colors in the same place. Then Guy Deutscher tells us how he experimented on his daughter Alma when she was just starting to learn the colors of the world around, and above, her."

and the link to the podcast:
http://www.radiolab.org/story/211119-colors/
Imagecrittergarden
Dec 6, 2014 7:15 AM CST
And btw - I am a beginner with dahlias and anything else I can't leave in the ground all winter. I POT mine so I can put them on and off the deck as weather dictates..... Nothing has a chance to rot in the ground.
Imageteddahlia
Dec 6, 2014 10:29 AM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
How do you move those 2000 pots? Most of us dig and divide our dahlias. Even a couple of hundred pots would be tough and where would you put them anyway? The answer is to dig and divide and get more tubers from each plant. And many of the Cubits members trade these tubers. Pots are a bit too heavy to mail.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.

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