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ImageKimC
May 6, 2013 10:30 AM CST
I've grown Frigoulet for years. I love it: reliable bloomer, good tuber producer, does well at the shows. For some reason I thought I'd try some 'look alikes' this year. I have Camano Rascal and Sandia Apache
Let the best variety win!
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Imageteddahlia
May 6, 2013 10:40 AM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
Camano Rascal does not take the heat. Sandia Apache did OK in our garden and I am growing it another year. Never grown Frigoulet. I have seen breathtaking blooms of Camano Rascal in a show. Never in my garden.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageKimC
May 6, 2013 3:54 PM CST
I know Camano Rascal doesn't tuber well, and the blooms sometimes turn brown on the back, but I like a challenge. I heard Sandia Apache wasn't quite as fussy.
ImageDahliaGardener
May 6, 2013 7:03 PM CST
Name: Cynthia
BG, KY USDA Zone 6b
Sanity = Dirt under your nails...
I am really looking forward to Friguolet this year, and I have some others that I'm looking forward to, too. I've got Yunioh, York and Lancaster and Myrtle's Brandy for reds, Alauna Clair Obscur and Sellwood Glory for purples...well, actually I guess I'm not exactly sure about what is judged as a bi-color, since it looks like some I thought were bi-color are considered blends, like Sorbet. Anyway, I have quite a few that are one color with contrasting tips on their petals... Smiling

I still have a lot to learn.

C DG
All gardening is landscape painting.
- William Kent

ImageIslander
May 6, 2013 9:47 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
So, what is Yunioh like? I received one in the box from Tod, but I can't seem to find it on the interenet. Tod, if you see this, please tell me what to expect. There were a few others I did not know anything about, too.
Salish Dahlias
ImageDahliaGardener
May 6, 2013 10:34 PM CST
Name: Cynthia
BG, KY USDA Zone 6b
Sanity = Dirt under your nails...
It's on Accent's website - they have a picture that shows red with white tips. Kind of pretty, it looks like.

C DG

Edit for the PS: I haven't grown it yet as I got mine from Tod, too. But I did search high and low to see what to expect. http://dahliasuppliers.com/accent/2010-2011 Gallery/pages/YU...

All gardening is landscape painting.
- William Kent

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Imagehonnat
May 6, 2013 10:35 PM CST
St. Paul, MN
Here is a Camano Rascal that I saw on a dahlia tour in 2011. That was not AS hot as last summer was; but it was a hot summer. Nice bloom (maybe not a show winner?) .
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ImageIslander
May 7, 2013 9:03 AM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
OK, I am going to have some interesting "red and whites" this year. I had already purchased "Clack's Spirit", and recived AC "Clouds and Rain" from Tod as well as "Yunioh". I'm wondering about heights,,who goes in front of who?
And do they all fade in the sun or do some get brighter in the sun? I would have bought "Santa Claus" this year but he was sold out everywhere before he caught my eye.
Salish Dahlias
ImageDahliaGardener
May 7, 2013 9:13 AM CST
Name: Cynthia
BG, KY USDA Zone 6b
Sanity = Dirt under your nails...
Camano Rascal is kind of cute. I can't tell, though, is it red and white or orange and white?

C DG
All gardening is landscape painting.
- William Kent

Imagehonnat
May 7, 2013 9:15 AM CST
St. Paul, MN
I believe it should be red and white. Not sure if my photo is off, or if this bloom was faded.
Imageteddahlia
May 7, 2013 10:54 AM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
Santa Claus is a classic cut flower dahlia that is easy to grow. It sometimes sports to Orange and white and is called "Mrs. Santa Claus". It was challenge flower at the Puget Sound show one year in honor of it's originator, Harold Miller who was from that area. It was a real nice display of the red and white flowers.
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We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageKimC
May 7, 2013 12:38 PM CST
I have Santa Claus. I "lost" it in my garden for a while, but then recovered it when it bloomed in 2011. Last year it bloomed fairly well despite the drought and turned out a respectable amount of tubers. I like it for its color and form.
ImageRedmondPhyllis
May 15, 2013 10:56 PM CST
Name: Phyllis Stengl
Sequim, WA
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I'm growing Santa Clause this year (from Kim) in honor of my uncle. I believe it was his favorite . . .ie, it's been around a while!
ImageKimC
Jun 14, 2013 11:07 AM CST
I should have made this thread "Battle of the dahlias".

Not only is Frigoulet going up against Camano Rascal and Sandia Apache, but I'm also doing:

Maarn vs Camano Buz
Paul Z vs Cornel
Kennemerland vs Hissy Fitz
L'Ancresse vs Brookside Snowball

Let's get ready to Rumble! Big Grin
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ImageDahliaGardener
Jun 14, 2013 9:32 PM CST
Name: Cynthia
BG, KY USDA Zone 6b
Sanity = Dirt under your nails...
Hahahah Rolling on the floor laughing

This ought to be fun!

C DG
All gardening is landscape painting.
- William Kent

addicted
Jun 16, 2013 7:31 AM CST
Name: Em
NY
Woo hoo! You guys might just inspire me to add one of those to my collection next season!
Em in NY
Dahlias -- the gift that keeps on giving!
ImageFLflowerboy
Jun 16, 2013 8:29 PM CST
Name: Jon George
Gainesville, FL
...crazy enough to grow dahlias in
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AC Clouds and Rain (showing a lot more white than the AC website pic)


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AC Dark Horse bloomed dark red for the first bloom and then turned bi-color for the next blooms thereafter...is this a sport?
"What is a weed?" asked Peppa Pig. "A weed is a cheeky plant growing in the wrong place!" replied Grandpa Pig.
Imageteddahlia
Jun 16, 2013 8:41 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!


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AC Dark Horse bloomed dark red for the first bloom and then turned bi-color for the next blooms thereafter...is this a sport?
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It looks like a sport to me. Dark Horse is generally a very dark lavender that some people would call a shade of purple. It is listed as purple in the classification book. If it is a sport and all of the branches on the plant have the same bicolor flowers, the tubers will carry the sport. If only one branch of the plant, exhibits the bicolor trait, one would need to take a cutting from that branch and root it to preserve the sport. Since this is a an extremely rare color scheme for a dahlia(lavender and white bicolor), the tubers of the sport could be quite valuable, especially since this is a giant dahlia. I would imagine that serious giant dahlia growers would pay in excess of $30.00 per tuber for a giant bicolor dahlia.

We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageFLflowerboy
Jun 16, 2013 8:58 PM CST
Name: Jon George
Gainesville, FL
...crazy enough to grow dahlias in
Thanks, Ted! I will have to keep an eye on this plant. I was trying to look earlier to see if just one branch was blooming differently. For now, it appears the whole plant has reverted.
"What is a weed?" asked Peppa Pig. "A weed is a cheeky plant growing in the wrong place!" replied Grandpa Pig.
ImageKimC
Jun 16, 2013 9:39 PM CST
Quick! Take some leaf cuttings and root them. I wish that when my Bodacious sported that I had taken cuttings of it, but I wasn't interested in propagating a new variety of dahlia. I still kick myself, as it was a fabulous bloom.

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Well, at least I got a picture of it Sad

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