Discussion of Colors, Forms or Varieties forum: Blush/Pale Creamy Varieties? Looking for recommendations.

 
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portia
Aug 22, 2015 11:40 AM CST
Southern PA, Brandywine
Seems like every bride and designer wants the cafe au lait variety for their wedding this year and next year--they're already booking weddings and letting me know that trend is continuing. I'm beefing up on my CAL tubers for next year, but would like to grow other options that would pair nicely with CAL and/or be a 'stand in' as well. Obv nothing is exactly the same, but looking for suggestions I may not have considered...since the collective 'variety' knowledge among us all is pretty amazing!

A few on my radar already. These are not necessarily same color exactly, but have the same 'family' of color.

KA's Cloud--can't buy in bulk from a wholesaler and is expensive, but hopefully I can get a few tubers and build them up from there. The pale pink fading to cream would be perfect for a complement.
Porcelain-- bought one of these this year, have yet to see it really bloom (got a tiny one off it a while ago), also not sure how great of a tuber keeper it is.
Innocence--bought this 2 years in a row from Swan with the tuber just really not being very vigorous, however I've seen other farmers blooms of it and it's gorgeous. Might be a bit too yellow.
Castle Drive--I have this one, it's gorgeous and appears to be prolific, maybe too much of a yellow tone in the middle til it fades out. I've only had one bloom, so hard to say. More budding.
French Doll--in pics online looks like creamy pale apricot, maybe too much yellow in some pics.
Sugartown Sunrise--again maybe too much yellow, maybe too cotton candy of a pink.
Ice Cube-same form as CAL, same slightly mottled petals, might work. Grew this last year but it was end of season when it bloomed so the blooms were not appealing.
BJ's Dusty Rose-might try this one from Red Hawk next year.

Any other ideas/thoughts? Ideally the same blush/pale pink color but not too much 'yellow' as a companion.

Ted-- how is your cafe substitute coming along? If you need someone over on the East to trial let me know haha.

Thanks everyone! I know the Cafe topic is not a favorite amongst us but hoping you all can help me anyway hehe..
mandolls
Aug 22, 2015 1:15 PM CST
Name: Geof
WI
Kelgai Ann
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For me - French Doll has been opening with a lot of yellow, but getting progressively pinker as it matures
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Imagehonnat
Aug 22, 2015 2:31 PM CST
St. Paul, MN
Miss Amara
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Summer Rain
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Bo-Kay
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Imagehonnat
Aug 22, 2015 2:39 PM CST
St. Paul, MN
Verrone's Richard B
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Formby Crest
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Darcy
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ImageFlowernut
Aug 22, 2015 4:58 PM CST
Name: Jane
Southern California Zone 9/10
OBO Katie
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Kenora Lisa
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Blizzard
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Sheer Heaven-I don't have a picture

Shilo Jazzman-I grew one year and it has beautiful, long stems

It warmer weather, the pink ones are not as intense, but still very pretty.
Jane
"In joy or sadness, flowers are our constant friends"-Kazuko Okakura
ImageBenny101
Aug 22, 2015 6:58 PM CST
Greenville MI - zone 5b
We saw BJ's Dusty Rose at Hamilton last year and both thought it was quite nice , you might be able to get a deal buying quantity from them .
ImageIslander
Aug 22, 2015 8:22 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
KA's CLoud...I had my first 2 blooms and it is everything I hoped it would be...luscious big white blooms, wavy petals, and tinges of lavender, Pink and soft yellow near the heart. I had one in a bouquet today with a couple of Bloomquist Tori, and it was so pretty it almost made me cry!
I want to see if I can root any cuttings to carry it through the winter, just in case it doesn't tuber up well. I think I have two plants, one made as a cutting off the cutting iI got from Carralitos Gardens. It sort of makes Cafe Au Lait look like a has been Lovey dubby
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portia
Aug 23, 2015 7:22 AM CST
Southern PA, Brandywine
Thanks so much everyone! So many great varieties to look into. Summer Rain is totally on my list, saw a few pics of it earlier this week that I loved (one from you honnat!). Is Formy Crest more apricot ? Kelgai is another gorgeous one!

Noni: Kristine, the KA cloud breeder posted a great pic on Instagram the other day with a big bucket of KA Cloud and Cafe...the two pair wonderfully together!

Also, Kristine is only about 30min from my Mom, and it was her birthday on Friday so I asked her to make a bouquet of dahlias that my sister picked up and it's just so gorgeous. It has KA's in it and I think Cafe.

Here's a link to a pic:
https://instagram.com/p/6sk3EVlGIM/
ImageIslander
Aug 23, 2015 9:27 AM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
What an amazing gift for your Mama! If one of my kids did that I would be ecstatic! (Of course having a January birthday would make this a bit difficult :-)
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ImageDarcyD
Aug 23, 2015 10:11 AM CST
Name: Darcy D
Green Oaks, Illinois
Nice to see you!!

The one that comes to mind for me is Hapet Champagne. I am LOVING...I mean love-love-loving it! I don't know how it will stand up cut, as I haven't had the heart to cut it. It would be worth taking a few years to build up stock though, imo.

Cruddy pic, but you get the idea:
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portia
Aug 23, 2015 10:23 AM CST
Southern PA, Brandywine
Darcy, I saw someone's pic, maybe yours, in another thread of Champagne, and it totally looks like it'd be an awesome option for that category! Is that one you got from Theresa?

I still have hope for an overseas order at some point too...would love to try so many other varieties.

Noni, she's one of those people who has everything, or just buys what she wants etc, so buying for her is very hard. She loves flowers, and hasn't really been able to grow dahlias since their water supply is so low out there so I figured this would be fun!
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ImageDarcyD
Aug 23, 2015 1:24 PM CST
Name: Darcy D
Green Oaks, Illinois
No, I got it from Vicki's dahlias. She had a bunch of other Hapet's too. My Blue Eyes is gorgeous. And, Benny sent me Ideal which is also very nice. Prolific & healthy. I had a few Hapets that didn't make it...but those that did I'm really liking. I wouldn't mind trying to get an order in somehow. I still drool over that Hapet Daydream!!
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ImageIslander
Aug 23, 2015 2:08 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
For blush I am totally loving Bloomquist Tori! It is the one I fell for at the test garden last year and finally traced down at Red Hawk dahlias. I also got Pearl Diver from Teresa which looked about the same. Pearl Diver hasn't lived up to my hopes yet, but Bloomquist Tori is phenomenal!Thumb of 2015-08-23/Islander/d16300 . The intense sun has faded it out to more of a pale blush pink but the form is beautiful, and actually the blooms I used this weekend were about exactly what I like. "I still think of it as "Baby Cheeks"pink Thumbs up
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portia
Aug 23, 2015 2:11 PM CST
Southern PA, Brandywine
Yes I recall Bloomquist Tori from your prev pic Noni! Totally gorgeous, just saved it.

Watch the dahlia field have all these new pale options and then the designers will end up saying 'ooohhh they just added yellow into the mix'... Rolling on the floor laughing I heard a lot about burgundy this year and planted a lot of dark dahlias but so far everyone is still saying peach and blush!
ImageClearCreekDahlias
Aug 24, 2015 6:10 AM CST
Western New York State
Dahlias! Dahlias! Dahlias!
Hapet Champagne
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addicted
Aug 25, 2015 7:33 PM CST
Name: Em
NY
How about Lakeview Blush?
http://www.clearviewdahlias.com/p/?pid=102
Em in NY
Dahlias -- the gift that keeps on giving!
Imagedrewtheflorist
Aug 26, 2015 8:12 AM CST
Name: Drew the Florist
14 miles S E of Pittsburgh
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How about Crazy Love for some texture in the bouquet ?

All this kerfuffle because some "caterer" from a Polish family from New Jersey said so .......
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Aug 27, 2015 9:50 PM CST
Name: CC
PA
Could be worse, Drew. She might have promoted solid pumpkin orange blooms.
CC
portia
Aug 28, 2015 8:15 AM CST
Southern PA, Brandywine
Drew, I grew CL last year and loved it! I think I may have one or two tubers planted, will see when they bloom but I do love that color combo and form.

And yes it could always be worse haha! I am happily noticing that many of my CAL plants are producing more pinky blooms than the super washed out cream which is more my thing.

Love Lakeview Blush Em! and def Hapet Champagne on my list.
ImageClearCreekDahlias
Aug 28, 2015 9:08 AM CST
Western New York State
Dahlias! Dahlias! Dahlias!
Portia, Cafe au Lait is a variety with unstable color blooms. Do not get discouraged, you might have more creamy blooms later in the year or even next season. Even if you save only the paler ones and plant them, there is no guaranty you will have the same color next year. That's just the nature of the CAL.

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