Benny is way ahead of us on picotee. We had a fairly nice one about 6 years ago, but no one was very excited about that color pattern then and we did not keep it beyond the second year. One of the prettiest dahlias I have ever grown was called "Tender Moments" and it was a creamy white flower with lavender pink picotee edges. It was a poorly formed flower of semi cactus, informal decorative, formal decorative all mixed up. I searched for a picture on my computer and the internet to no avail.
What about the waterlilies that have an extreme involute/incurl, like Kelgai Ann or Sandia Isa? Is there a name for this? They remind me of peonies (not peony form dahlias, but actual peonies), roses, and ranunculus... I ordered Sadia Isa, Sandia Susan, and Pam Howden from the Boleys this year in hopes of getting a closer look. I also tried to get Kelgai Ann from Julie's, but I was too slow. If any of them have good cut flower qualities I will be over the moon. Does anyone know of others along these lines? Do they share certain parents? I apologize if this question is in the wrong place; I'm new here, and still learning my way around.
This is a picture of our 2020 seedling that was the result of a cross with a specialized breeding parent to create florets that cup well. We lost the breeding parent but in a way I am not sorry as it was a poor specimen of a dahlia that grew just over 2 feet tall. I took a picture of it a few years ago and may run into it again and post it. If you think this one cups a lot the parent was beyond belief. Breeding waterlilies is extremely difficult and we are finally getting some nice seedlings.