Chat forum: 2020 Order Chat

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Imageblown_dry
Sep 10, 2019 10:10 AM CST
Name: Amanda
CA Redwood Coast - Zone 9b
DahliaAddict.com
Maybe 2020 will be the year I move on the next stage of dahlia mania where I don't over-order... Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious!
Imageteddahlia
Sep 10, 2019 11:12 AM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
In the next stage of dahlia mania, people tend to fixate on new and rare varieties that they "must have" . They will lose some of the varieties in their garden and seldom replace them as they want to try new ones. They will find that many if not most of the new ones were no better than some they grew before. Most people have limited space and after a few years tend to specialize in the types of flowers they like. For example I knew of one person who only grew waterlilies. Fixating on one form however is rare and most people fixate on several forms and colors that they like. In the Mid West(and elsewhere too) there is a population of dahlia growers that only like giant dahlias. Other people seem to attracted to all the open center types to the almost exclusion of fully double types. Again most people want a mix of flowers and want some for cutting bouquets and want some for their appearance in the garden and some for their "weird or unusual look".

And is our case we want flowers for Margaret;s arrangements and are trying to breed some show flowers and cut flowers and if something does not fit into the breeding program we may not keep more than a year or two. And if something does not make seeds, it will probably be gone eventually. . And as you migrate into a long time grower, you will continue to grow some varieties for more sentimental reasons than practical ones.
“Flowers are like friends; They bring color to your world.” – Unknown
Imageblown_dry
Nov 3, 2019 2:02 PM CST
Name: Amanda
CA Redwood Coast - Zone 9b
DahliaAddict.com
I got as far as Erpeler Ley in adding Cowlitz 2020 to Dahlia Addict and then I quit and started making an order. Rolling my eyes. Drooling *Blush*


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Imagemelissamaeday
Nov 3, 2019 3:25 PM CST
Name: Melissa
Omaha,NE
blown_dry wrote:Maybe 2020 will be the year I move on the next stage of dahlia mania where I don't over-order... Hilarious! Hilarious! Hilarious!


I am right there with you, Amanda! Hilarious! I promised myself I would behave better this go round, but then I placed orders with Tall Grass, Julie's Dahlias, and Connell's within a 24 hour span. I don't even feel bad about it...
addicted
Nov 8, 2019 6:36 AM CST
Name: Em
NY
Our club just got a notice from Kim Connell that he is not going to have roots for sale this year. I'm not sure if that's just the bulk roots (which we have ordered for many years for our root sale in April) or if he's simply closing up shop. We will need to find another source. Does anyone have any suggestions?
Em
Dahlias -- the gift that keeps on giving!
ImageCMCramer
Nov 12, 2019 8:54 AM CST
Name: CMCramer
Rochester, NY
Six inches of snow overnight, temps down to the teens tonight, and 26 tuber clumps dug and drying on heated greenhouse floor (currently 46 degrees): great time to shop for some new dahlias!

What conclusions should I draw when a particular dahlia is sold by just one or two retailers? a) it's hard to grow, does not form tubers well, better beware OR b) that retailer has unique growing conditions that allow this dahlia to thrive, better beware OR c) there are so many varieties of dahlias that this situation is bound to happen. ex. Wyn's Solaris



Chris
Imagehonnat
Nov 12, 2019 9:23 AM CST
St. Paul, MN
D) it is a newer variety that most growers (besides the breeder) are building stock before selling
E) It has never been marketed well. Introduced by small vendor or no good photos exist
F) Most stock that exists is either virused or broken down. Vendors are either lucky enough to have good stock or they are selling something that is no good.
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Imageteddahlia
Nov 12, 2019 10:03 AM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
G) In the case of Wyn varieties, they quit business abruptly because of the fatal fire and many of their varieties had not been picked up yet by other vendors.
H) When someone retires there is a real drop off on the availability of that person's less popular varieties. Sometimes another grower will "adopt" those varieties and sell them but that is rare.
I) In the case of Bloomquist, he has never sold his own introductions and yes they do get sold the first year but often in the subsequent years, they disappear. .
J) Lack of availability is usually indicative of a poor performing variety, as most new varieties that passed in the trial gardens disappear after a couple of years. .
“Flowers are like friends; They bring color to your world.” – Unknown
Imageblown_dry
Nov 12, 2019 11:03 AM CST
Name: Amanda
CA Redwood Coast - Zone 9b
DahliaAddict.com
All the scenarios are real so it's always a gamble. It's true that an older variety that is almost impossible to find but is clearly desirable has bad odds of being healthy. I've placed that order often enough to know. But bad odds are not zero odds.
Imageteddahlia
Nov 13, 2019 7:52 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
Teresa said a European customer of hers is tooling up to be able to sell to USA customers. I will report more when I know more and will it happen for this season?
“Flowers are like friends; They bring color to your world.” – Unknown
Imageblown_dry
Nov 14, 2019 12:27 PM CST
Name: Amanda
CA Redwood Coast - Zone 9b
DahliaAddict.com
They have contacted me for inclusion on Dahlia Addict. I hope it works out!

https://www.famflowerfarm.eu/dahlia-tubers?product_list_limi...
Imageteddahlia
Nov 14, 2019 2:21 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
I believe the one Teresa was discussing would be selling some Hapet varieties.
“Flowers are like friends; They bring color to your world.” – Unknown
Imageblown_dry
Nov 14, 2019 2:44 PM CST
Name: Amanda
CA Redwood Coast - Zone 9b
DahliaAddict.com
More the merrier! I wonder if there has been some change of regulations to make this more feasible.

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