Discussion of Colors, Forms or Varieties forum: Most floriferous, heavy blooming dahlia varieties?
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| Looking for floliferous, heavy blooming varieties for the garden. |
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| To pick for bouquets or just to look at on the plants? Colors you like and dislike? What size flowers do like, as most dahlias are 4 to 6 inches in diameter but there are larger and smaller ones? There are thousands of varieties being sold but at this late in the buying season, you may be restricted in your choices. Dahlias are by nature floriferous and heavy blooming, especially in that 4-6 inch range and a bit smaller. We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden. |
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| - Also consider some of the lower growing singles for border color. - Pinching the new growth will delay flowering but will eventually produce a larger display of color. - Keep the old blooms picked off (deadheading) to encourage more blooms. - If for garden display only, do not disbud plants. |
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teddahlia wrote:To pick for bouquets or just to look at on the plants? Colors you like and dislike? What size flowers do like, as most dahlias are 4 to 6 inches in diameter but there are larger and smaller ones? There are thousands of varieties being sold but at this late in the buying season, you may be restricted in your choices. Dahlias are by nature floriferous and heavy blooming, especially in that 4-6 inch range and a bit smaller. Hi, I'll be planting about 10-15 plants, so I'd like enough for cutting for the house, but I'm not cutting for commercial purposes, only cutting for myself and my daughter, so not all the plants need to be cutting quality. The only color I dislike is red, and I love white flowers but hesitate because they attract bugs. I like the dinner plates, but they bloom so late and the Rhode Island growing season is short so I'll likely only have 2 or 3. I'm perfectly happy with the smaller ones, and prefer taller plants. Yes, unfortunately most of my favorites are sold out but I've been able to cobble together a list using multiple vendors. Last year was my first season growing them, and I ordered from resellers, not knowing they were Dutch clumps, and my plants were disappointing. Many with viruses, and many just didn't grow. |
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| Here are a few suggestions in some floriferous cut flower varieties for the NE: Linda's Baby HH Black Beauty Cornel Bronze- orange Isabel- purpleish Gaylen Rose-white with lavender center in fall Peaches n Cream- peach/sometimes pink Snoho Doris-orange/peach/cor Snoho Les- varigated purple Jitterbug Small World- small white pom Sugartown Sunrise-pink/yellow Pennhill Watermelon is a larger bloom on a monster plant but blooms its head off. Provide lots of support and maybe afternoon shade. Gingersnap- orange w/dark foliage Ferncliff Copper- orange Bo Peep- soft pink with soft yellow center |
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Cosey wrote:Here are a few suggestions in some floriferous cut flower varieties for the NE: This is so helpful! I've spent dats of analysis paralysis dahlia research and hopefully I can pull the trigger now on a few. |
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nicoleb wrote: You're welcome! |
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| Heavy bloomers for me last year in zone 9b: Lakeview Curley BQ Mary Lou CV Jennae My Hero Spoiled Rotten Seabeck's Hilda Hy Clown Castle Drive Irish Blackhart - very heavy bloomer LV Peach Fuzz CV Splash - very heavy bloomer AC JC Verrone's Sandra J HH Candy Crush HH Dr Rick HH Jitterbug Normandy Wild Willie FC Lemon Aura Eva Luna Hy Mom |
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Mine would be at least half Hollyhill varieties and would have to include Hollyhill Clowning Around, Hollyhill Summer Wine and Hollyhill Black Beauty. I would add in Ferncliff ones: FC TRopics, FC Copper, Miss Teagan, FC Bliss. From Swan Island I would pick Andy's Legacy, Diva,. And from the cut flower dahlia world, Brown Sugar, Linda's Baby, Jowey Winnie. I would also want Clearview Jennae and Clearview Sarah and Clearview Butterscotch. And tomorrow I would want a totally different batch...which is how I wound up growing 900 dahlias.....  Salish Dahlias |
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It is always amazing how few varieties overlap from list to list. and many times you get a list from someone and they no longer grow most of the varieties any more and for many valid and invalid reasons. . No ,matter how good and how much you like a variety, the odds are you will eventually stop growing it. Many of my all time favorite varieties are no longer grown by us.  Hollyhill Violetta that was named after my mother. We have not grown it in many years. We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden. |
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| Heavy bloomers here in Nebraska: Mystique Ferncliff Thunder Peaches N Cream Jowey Winnie Miss Teagan Verrone's DF Narrows Pam Maarn Blizzard Linda's Baby Ferncliff Tropics Cecil Irish Blackhart Mary's Jomanda Tahoma Vivian Camano Mordor Foxy Lady Hollyhill Black Beauty Clearview Lily Isabel All That Jazz |
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| Another list with only some overlap with the others. It is impossible for someone to have tried the thousands of varieties that are out there. Each list represents, the ones that did well in that person's garden but there are thousands to try and many hundreds that would do as well or better. It is like being a small child in a candy store: way too many things to try. Peaches N Cream Love this one, tuber problems prevent it from being on some other lists Irish Blackhart People list one despite the fact is is very difficult to buy due to tuber problems. Mary's Jomanda More of show flower for most of us(translate harder to grow) and Narrows Kirsten (an exact match and can be used in entries with M. Jomanda and no one can tell the difference) is easier to grow. Camano Mordor Liked the flowers but we did not "bond" with it and grew it only two years. We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden. |
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| PnC tubers can be a bugger. Figured out that it can't be a tuber that sits around. It gets divided first and into the 43*, 90% root cellar immediately. However I still can't get Snoho Doris to store well for me. I can always squeak by with enough ugly looking tubers to support my own growing needs. To continue what teddahlia said, I think the thousands of options available for dahlias is an attractive feature of the species. Something for everyone! The journey of finding something new is half the fun. I also believe that varieties do grow differently in different regions and growing conditions. Seeing the different lists is enjoyable. One of the lists I haven't grown a single one! |
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 Hollyhill Gingersnap is very floriferous. We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden. |
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I second Islander's suggestion of Diva. It is a really vibrant purple, heavy bloomer, long lasting in a vase and great tuber producer. And they winter over nicely in basement. I have lost so many varieties over the years to winter storage, but Diva has made it through 7 winters and these tubers still look nicer than just about any of the other 50+varieties I tried storing this past winter. I included a photo. Diva is the tall purple in the back. The yellow/lavendar in the front are Bo-Bay, another heavy & early bloomer. If you grow Bo-Bay be sure to keep cutting the blooms. If you don't cut them as soon as they start opening, the stems get short on later blooms. Diva has long stems regardless if I cut them or not.  |
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| I know that Swan Island sells a lot of Diva and I believe Nick said was one of his bestsellers a few years ago. Purple is such a hard color to breed and I bet it was one of Nick Sr's last seedlings before he died. Nick Sr loved breeding oddball dahlias too and they were not thought to be very commercial. Junk Yard Dog proved you could sell just about anything. Platinum Blond was one of his and there was great reluctance to sell it. It was out on the cover of their catalog and sold out very quickly. We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden. |
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| I definitely would include Peaches N Cream if the tubers only reproduced easier. A mass of blooms from it is just awesome. I have it growing in pots this year ready to put out but seems like I have to order new tubers every year. Another cut flower I really like is the little Doodlebug from Swan Islands. I lost mine last year and then forgot to order it again. I will have to pay extra postage now, because my order from Swan Islands came this week, but I do enjoy it. It mixes well with many other colors. Salish Dahlias |
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| I love hollyhill gingersnap but sadly it's sold out everywhere. |
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 Raz-Ma-Taz also sold at Swan Island Dahlias. This is an example of a novice show person putting together a perfectly matched set of three flowers and winning over the experienced exhibitors with a flower that is almost never shown. We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden. |
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| Cowlitz River Dahlias...I picked up my order from Teresa this morning...(No contact, maintained social distancing). She still had at least one Hollyhill Gingersnap plant. It would be worth it to contact her if you want one. It is always fascinating to visit another growers operation and see how they do things. I am envious of Teresa's big growing space! She had some very nice succulents as well as her dahlia starts... Salish Dahlias |
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