Discussion of Colors, Forms or Varieties forum: Most floriferous, heavy blooming dahlia varieties?

 
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Imagenicoleb
Apr 13, 2020 11:02 PM CST
Rhode Island
Looking for floliferous, heavy blooming varieties for the garden.
Imageteddahlia
Apr 14, 2020 8:05 AM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
To pick for bouquets or just to look at on the plants? Colors you like and dislike? What size flowers do like, as most dahlias are 4 to 6 inches in diameter but there are larger and smaller ones? There are thousands of varieties being sold but at this late in the buying season, you may be restricted in your choices. Dahlias are by nature floriferous and heavy blooming, especially in that 4-6 inch range and a bit smaller.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
SteveM
Apr 14, 2020 10:04 AM CST
Name: Steve
San Diego
Commercial cut flower grower
- Also consider some of the lower growing singles for border color.

- Pinching the new growth will delay flowering but will eventually produce a larger display of color.

- Keep the old blooms picked off (deadheading) to encourage more blooms.

- If for garden display only, do not disbud plants.
Imagenicoleb
Apr 15, 2020 3:56 PM CST
Rhode Island
teddahlia wrote:To pick for bouquets or just to look at on the plants? Colors you like and dislike? What size flowers do like, as most dahlias are 4 to 6 inches in diameter but there are larger and smaller ones? There are thousands of varieties being sold but at this late in the buying season, you may be restricted in your choices. Dahlias are by nature floriferous and heavy blooming, especially in that 4-6 inch range and a bit smaller.


Hi, I'll be planting about 10-15 plants, so I'd like enough for cutting for the house, but I'm not cutting for commercial purposes, only cutting for myself and my daughter, so not all the plants need to be cutting quality. The only color I dislike is red, and I love white flowers but hesitate because they attract bugs. I like the dinner plates, but they bloom so late and the Rhode Island growing season is short so I'll likely only have 2 or 3. I'm perfectly happy with the smaller ones, and prefer taller plants. Yes, unfortunately most of my favorites are sold out but I've been able to cobble together a list using multiple vendors. Last year was my first season growing them, and I ordered from resellers, not knowing they were Dutch clumps, and my plants were disappointing. Many with viruses, and many just didn't grow.
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ImageCosey
Apr 15, 2020 4:54 PM CST
Name: LeeAnn
Zone 6b, Pennsylvania
Here are a few suggestions in some floriferous cut flower varieties for the NE:
Linda's Baby
HH Black Beauty
Cornel Bronze- orange
Isabel- purpleish
Gaylen Rose-white with lavender center in fall
Peaches n Cream- peach/sometimes pink
Snoho Doris-orange/peach/cor
Snoho Les- varigated purple
Jitterbug
Small World- small white pom
Sugartown Sunrise-pink/yellow
Pennhill Watermelon is a larger bloom on a monster plant but blooms its head off. Provide lots of support and maybe afternoon shade.
Gingersnap- orange w/dark foliage
Ferncliff Copper- orange
Bo Peep- soft pink with soft yellow center


Imagenicoleb
Apr 15, 2020 5:29 PM CST
Rhode Island
Cosey wrote:Here are a few suggestions in some floriferous cut flower varieties for the NE:
Linda's Baby
HH Black Beauty
Cornel Bronze- orange
Isabel- purpleish
Gaylen Rose-white with lavender center in fall
Peaches n Cream- peach/sometimes pink
Snoho Doris-orange/peach/cor
Snoho Les- varigated purple
Jitterbug
Small World- small white pom
Sugartown Sunrise-pink/yellow
Pennhill Watermelon is a larger bloom on a monster plant but blooms its head off. Provide lots of support and maybe afternoon shade.
Gingersnap- orange w/dark foliage
Ferncliff Copper- orange
Bo Peep- soft pink with soft yellow center




This is so helpful! I've spent dats of analysis paralysis dahlia research and hopefully I can pull the trigger now on a few.
ImageCosey
Apr 15, 2020 5:46 PM CST
Name: LeeAnn
Zone 6b, Pennsylvania
nicoleb wrote:

This is so helpful! I've spent dats of analysis paralysis dahlia research and hopefully I can pull the trigger now on a few.


You're welcome!

Imagesylviap
Apr 15, 2020 6:04 PM CST
Name: Sylvia
West Sacramento, CA Zone 9b
Heavy bloomers for me last year in zone 9b:

Lakeview Curley
BQ Mary Lou
CV Jennae
My Hero
Spoiled Rotten
Seabeck's Hilda
Hy Clown
Castle Drive
Irish Blackhart - very heavy bloomer
LV Peach Fuzz
CV Splash - very heavy bloomer
AC JC
Verrone's Sandra J
HH Candy Crush
HH Dr Rick
HH Jitterbug
Normandy Wild Willie
FC Lemon Aura
Eva Luna
Hy Mom
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ImageIslander
Apr 15, 2020 8:40 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
Mine would be at least half Hollyhill varieties and would have to include Hollyhill Clowning Around, Hollyhill Summer Wine and Hollyhill Black Beauty. I would add in Ferncliff ones: FC TRopics, FC Copper, Miss Teagan, FC Bliss. From Swan Island I would pick Andy's Legacy, Diva,. And from the cut flower dahlia world, Brown Sugar, Linda's Baby, Jowey Winnie. I would also want Clearview Jennae and Clearview Sarah and Clearview Butterscotch. And tomorrow I would want a totally different batch...which is how I wound up growing 900 dahlias..... Thumbs up
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Imageteddahlia
Apr 15, 2020 9:04 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
It is always amazing how few varieties overlap from list to list. and many times you get a list from someone and they no longer grow most of the varieties any more and for many valid and invalid reasons. . No ,matter how good and how much you like a variety, the odds are you will eventually stop growing it. Many of my all time favorite varieties are no longer grown by us.
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Hollyhill Violetta that was named after my mother. We have not grown it in many years.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
Imagemelissamaeday
Apr 15, 2020 10:03 PM CST
Name: Melissa
Omaha,NE
Heavy bloomers here in Nebraska:

Mystique
Ferncliff Thunder
Peaches N Cream
Jowey Winnie
Miss Teagan
Verrone's DF
Narrows Pam
Maarn
Blizzard
Linda's Baby
Ferncliff Tropics
Cecil
Irish Blackhart
Mary's Jomanda
Tahoma Vivian
Camano Mordor
Foxy Lady
Hollyhill Black Beauty
Clearview Lily
Isabel
All That Jazz
Imageteddahlia
Apr 16, 2020 9:18 AM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
Another list with only some overlap with the others. It is impossible for someone to have tried the thousands of varieties that are out there. Each list represents, the ones that did well in that person's garden but there are thousands to try and many hundreds that would do as well or better. It is like being a small child in a candy store: way too many things to try.

Peaches N Cream Love this one, tuber problems prevent it from being on some other lists
Irish Blackhart People list one despite the fact is is very difficult to buy due to tuber problems.
Mary's Jomanda More of show flower for most of us(translate harder to grow) and Narrows Kirsten (an exact match and can be used in entries with M. Jomanda and no one can tell the difference) is easier to grow.
Camano Mordor Liked the flowers but we did not "bond" with it and grew it only two years.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageCosey
Apr 16, 2020 1:52 PM CST
Name: LeeAnn
Zone 6b, Pennsylvania
PnC tubers can be a bugger. Figured out that it can't be a tuber that sits around. It gets divided first and into the 43*, 90% root cellar immediately. However I still can't get Snoho Doris to store well for me. I can always squeak by with enough ugly looking tubers to support my own growing needs.

To continue what teddahlia said, I think the thousands of options available for dahlias is an attractive feature of the species. Something for everyone! The journey of finding something new is half the fun. I also believe that varieties do grow differently in different regions and growing conditions. Seeing the different lists is enjoyable. One of the lists I haven't grown a single one!
Imageteddahlia
Apr 16, 2020 4:31 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
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Hollyhill Gingersnap is very floriferous.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageAmy4Dahlias
Apr 17, 2020 2:13 PM CST
Name: Amy
Brighton MI (Zone 5)
I second Islander's suggestion of Diva. It is a really vibrant purple, heavy bloomer, long lasting in a vase and great tuber producer. And they winter over nicely in basement. I have lost so many varieties over the years to winter storage, but Diva has made it through 7 winters and these tubers still look nicer than just about any of the other 50+varieties I tried storing this past winter. I included a photo. Diva is the tall purple in the back. The yellow/lavendar in the front are Bo-Bay, another heavy & early bloomer. If you grow Bo-Bay be sure to keep cutting the blooms. If you don't cut them as soon as they start opening, the stems get short on later blooms. Diva has long stems regardless if I cut them or not. Thumb of 2020-04-17/Amy4Dahlias/a2f94d
Imageteddahlia
Apr 17, 2020 4:20 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
I know that Swan Island sells a lot of Diva and I believe Nick said was one of his bestsellers a few years ago. Purple is such a hard color to breed and I bet it was one of Nick Sr's last seedlings before he died. Nick Sr loved breeding oddball dahlias too and they were not thought to be very commercial. Junk Yard Dog proved you could sell just about anything. Platinum Blond was one of his and there was great reluctance to sell it. It was out on the cover of their catalog and sold out very quickly.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageIslander
Apr 18, 2020 8:45 AM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
I definitely would include Peaches N Cream if the tubers only reproduced easier. A mass of blooms from it is just awesome. I have it growing in pots this year ready to put out but seems like I have to order new tubers every year. Another cut flower I really like is the little Doodlebug from Swan Islands. I lost mine last year and then forgot to order it again. I will have to pay extra postage now, because my order from Swan Islands came this week, but I do enjoy it. It mixes well with many other colors.
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Imagenicoleb
Apr 18, 2020 11:49 AM CST
Rhode Island
I love hollyhill gingersnap but sadly it's sold out everywhere.
Imageteddahlia
Apr 18, 2020 12:31 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
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Raz-Ma-Taz also sold at Swan Island Dahlias. This is an example of a novice show person putting together a perfectly matched set of three flowers and winning over the experienced exhibitors with a flower that is almost never shown.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageIslander
Apr 18, 2020 3:27 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
Cowlitz River Dahlias...I picked up my order from Teresa this morning...(No contact, maintained social distancing). She still had at
least one Hollyhill Gingersnap plant. It would be worth it to contact her if you want one.

It is always fascinating to visit another growers operation and see how they do things. I am envious of Teresa's big growing space! She had some very nice succulents as well as her dahlia starts...
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