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SteveM
Jul 23, 2020 9:13 PM CST
Name: Steve
San Diego
Commercial cut flower grower
I'm curious what cubic cut-flower growers use as their "go to" peach. I have been using L.A.T.E. for several years and she doesn't have many faults but I am sure there must be a newer variety I "should" try. Maybe something larger than L.A.T.E., in the 4-6" range...

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ImageCosey
Jul 25, 2020 8:01 PM CST
Name: LeeAnn
Zone 6b, Pennsylvania
I'm going to think about this and may comment later in the season. When Snoho Doris is orange she's a good match. I'm assuming you want an orange with a kiss of coral or raspberry to it. Not just a light orange? Correct?
ImageIslander
Jul 25, 2020 9:39 PM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
My customers loved Clearview Peachy but I don't think she produces enough blooms fast enough for you. Also I found they tended to get a gray tint to them after picking. Do you grow Jowey Winnie?
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SteveM
Jul 25, 2020 10:09 PM CST
Name: Steve
San Diego
Commercial cut flower grower
Cosey wrote: I'm assuming you want an orange with a kiss of coral or raspberry to it. Not just a light orange? Correct?


That is exactly how I would describe the "peach" color ("orange with a kiss of coral"), except I probably wouldn't be as poetic. My photo isn't very good as showing the correct color of L.A.T.E., the one bunch in the front is the most accurate representation, the others are too dark and I couldn't rescue them in Photoshop.. Snoho Doris looks great, and even if she doesn't have the orange I am also looking for a good coral. I will add her to my 2021 buy list. Thanks!
SteveM
Jul 25, 2020 10:11 PM CST
Name: Steve
San Diego
Commercial cut flower grower
Islander wrote:My customers loved Clearview Peachy but I don't think she produces enough blooms fast enough for you. Also I found they tended to get a gray tint to them after picking. Do you grow Jowey Winnie?


Thanks Noni, I haven't grown either variety, I will add Jowey Winnie to my list!
ImageIslander
Jul 26, 2020 8:38 AM CST
Name: Noni Morrison
Warren, Oregon
retired flower farmer
I think Jowey WInnie would suit you very well...I really like it but what I got as Jowey Winnie this year was not the true one. What I was sent turns more red/orange and fades to golden orange. That might be a Jowey one but it isn't Winnie!
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Imageteddahlia
Jul 26, 2020 8:48 AM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
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Picture of first year seedling. I posted the picture only because the subject was peach and if this one continues to look good it may have future. The plant was not very tall an we will see how well it grows.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageCosey
Jul 26, 2020 12:06 PM CST
Name: LeeAnn
Zone 6b, Pennsylvania
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Ohhh, if we are posting seedlings ... Here is a Hy Patti seedling blooming again. First bloom this year in the middle of a week in the 90's and high humidy. 😁

Florists around here love Rose Toscano. Smaller bloom, but so pretty. Tubers are hard to store for me but I keep trying. Abundant plant.

Hy Patti is a gorgeous mellow orange that errs on the side of mute than bright. The younger inner petals are always slightly darker and you'll get that "peachy" effect without being a bicolored bloom. Tubers also temperamental.

Do you grow Ferncliff Copper? Great all round field grown plants and awesome tuber storing. In the fall the color might hit all your marks.



SteveM
Jul 27, 2020 9:30 AM CST
Name: Steve
San Diego
Commercial cut flower grower
teddahlia wrote:
Picture of first year seedling. I posted the picture only because the subject was peach and if this one continues to look good it may have future. The plant was not very tall an we will see how well it grows.

That's a great color. Other than to save wear and tear on the back (becoming more of a factor as the years pass), plant height is not so important if the stems are long. Tall plants require more labor to keep under control so a very tall plant is not always desirable. For me, 4.5 - 5 foot tall varieties seem to meet the balance between ease-of-harvest and ease-of-staking.

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SteveM
Jul 27, 2020 9:36 AM CST
Name: Steve
San Diego
Commercial cut flower grower
Cosey wrote:
Ohhh, if we are posting seedlings ... Here is a Hy Patti seedling blooming again. First bloom this year in the middle of a week in the 90's and high humidy. 😁

Florists around here love Rose Toscano. Smaller bloom, but so pretty. Tubers are hard to store for me but I keep trying. Abundant plant.

Hy Patti is a gorgeous mellow orange that errs on the side of mute than bright. The younger inner petals are always slightly darker and you'll get that "peachy" effect without being a bicolored bloom. Tubers also temperamental.

Do you grow Ferncliff Copper? Great all round field grown plants and awesome tuber storing. In the fall the color might hit all your marks.



I think your seedling would be a great florist color. What size is the bloom?

I haven't grown any of those you mentioned, you are expanding my list of "must grow" varieties. Smiling
ImageCosey
Jul 27, 2020 1:31 PM CST
Name: LeeAnn
Zone 6b, Pennsylvania
SteveM wrote:

I think your seedling would be a great florist color. What size is the bloom?

I haven't grown any of those you mentioned, you are expanding my list of "must grow" varieties. Smiling


Last year the seedling when disbudded was 5-6". Left to field conditions it stays 4". Thought this first bloom this year is small.

Are you on IG? Between my sister and I, we post pictures of 250+ varieties. Might be bad for your budget.
SteveM
Aug 1, 2020 9:53 PM CST
Name: Steve
San Diego
Commercial cut flower grower
Cosey wrote:

Last year the seedling when disbudded was 5-6". Left to field conditions it stays 4". Thought this first bloom this year is small.

Are you on IG? Between my sister and I, we post pictures of 250+ varieties. Might be bad for your budget.


That is the perfect size for a cut flower.

Ha!, I had to Google "IG" to find out what it meant so I guess I am not on it. This Cubic forum is the total of my social networking.
ImageCosey
Aug 2, 2020 5:35 PM CST
Name: LeeAnn
Zone 6b, Pennsylvania
SteveM wrote:

That is the perfect size for a cut flower.

Ha!, I had to Google "IG" to find out what it meant so I guess I am not on it. This Cubic forum is the total of my social networking.


Haha. It really is a wonderful community of flower farmers. Plus many of your customers are probably on there so you get a glimpse of their work and what they are using. You don't need an account to view public business accounts on there so if you ever wanted to browse.
ImageCosey
Aug 27, 2020 11:18 AM CST
Name: LeeAnn
Zone 6b, Pennsylvania
Steve- my peachy seedling is going bananas right now. I couldn't be more pleased.

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SteveM
Aug 27, 2020 12:59 PM CST
Name: Steve
San Diego
Commercial cut flower grower
And it looks like it has long, strong stems. What does the bloom angle look like? A side-facing bloom might loose some points on the show bench but is not a detriment as a cut flower. (actually, might be a bonus, as long as it is not down-facing). What is the shelf life like? Does the bloom shatter as it ages or do the back petals hang on when the bloom is past it's peak? Looks like a potentially excellent cut flower!
ImageCosey
Aug 27, 2020 1:20 PM CST
Name: LeeAnn
Zone 6b, Pennsylvania
SteveM wrote:And it looks like it has long, strong stems. What does the bloom angle look like? A side-facing bloom might loose some points on the show bench but is not a detriment as a cut flower. (actually, might be a bonus, as long as it is not down-facing). What is the shelf life like? Does the bloom shatter as it ages or do the back petals hang on when the bloom is past it's peak? Looks like a potentially excellent cut flower!


It's either forward facing or has the converted 45* bloom angle. The stems are fantastic. Has a firm blossom attachment. I'm testing vase life and bloom shattering now. So far no shattering! The petals don't fold all the way back but I've never had a florist complain about that. This will move forward as a "cut flower" dahlia introduction.
This week I'll harvest everything off these 10 plants and see how it responds with production from here on out.
Imageteddahlia
Aug 27, 2020 1:21 PM CST
Name: Ted
Oregon
We enjoy breeding new dahlias!
This one actually looks like genuine peach with the reddish pigment on the muted orange petals.
We like to place a sign on our porch that says: We are in the garden. Really, we are always in the garden.
ImageCosey
Aug 27, 2020 1:22 PM CST
Name: LeeAnn
Zone 6b, Pennsylvania
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Here's another angle of a young bloom.
ImageCosey
Aug 27, 2020 1:32 PM CST
Name: LeeAnn
Zone 6b, Pennsylvania
teddahlia wrote:This one actually looks like genuine peach with the reddish pigment on the muted orange petals.


That's always a point of clarification when someone orders "peach" dahlias. Are they looking for pastel orange or this color combo?

I might name this after my favorite peach variety. Too many dahlias named Peach.... On the market.
SteveM
Aug 27, 2020 1:33 PM CST
Name: Steve
San Diego
Commercial cut flower grower
Cosey wrote:
The petals don't fold all the way back but I've never had a florist complain about that.


I agree, that wouldn't be a consideration for a cut flower candidate. She sounds like a winner!

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