Cottage Gardening forum: Plants that need to be dead headed in my garden....

 
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Imagetcs1366
Apr 10, 2010 3:25 PM CST
Name: Terese
Leesburg, FL zone9b
Wisconsin Dells Area, zone4
If you have a plant that is slowly 'taking over' ... list it here so others may learn from our mistakes.

As I was out back the past few days, digging like a mad women...

I have decided to --
dig up clumps of Yarrow. I have found they multiply by 'runners' under ground and probably throw a boat load of seeds too.
Monarda fistulosa [Wild Bergamot Bee Balm] -- while I do love this stuff... it is getting everywhere. I grew it by seed back in 07.

I will collect enough seeds to share, but the rest will get cut down so seeds aren't blown all over creation.

Husker Red, Penstemon Digitalis ... again... LOVE this plant, but thankfully the seed pods take forever and a week to harden and split spilling seeds everywhere. Thankfully they transplant easily... but will be dead headed from now on.

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Terese -- Leesburg, FL & Lake Delton, Wi
My Email is my userID at hotmail.com

ImageKLStuart
Apr 15, 2010 6:11 AM CST
Name: Kelly
Simpsonville, SC
I found out the hard way that my Nicotiana (a lime version) will reseed anywhere! My brick patio had them coming up in between the bricks, both last year mid way through the season, and again this spring! Will be careful where I plant these this year, as deadheading was hard, there would still be tons of flowers blooming, and also seed pods ripening at the same time!
Imagestarlight1153
Apr 16, 2010 5:35 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
I've never noticed the Husker's Red reseeding all over, unless they making seedlings around and I am thinking they just weeds in other pots and pulling them all out. Which is a good possibility.

Re-seeders for me are Columbines and Mexican Petunias. Mexican petunia s are harder that all get out to start in seedling trays, but let them pot and sprout out on the ground or in a pot outside and they take off like weeds.
Imagetcs1366
Apr 18, 2010 7:57 PM CST
Name: Terese
Leesburg, FL zone9b
Wisconsin Dells Area, zone4
Ella -- the huskers seedlings are also a reddish... so they are easy to see. I've got tons of them.

I dont have much luck with petunias or columbines.

Kelly -- i had the white version of Nicotiana - didnt like it as it was gangly. I'm trying the "red" this year.

LOL -- did i mention Wild Bergamot is taking over??
Lea... are you sure you want this?? it makes a great 'field' plant though.
Terese -- Leesburg, FL & Lake Delton, Wi
My Email is my userID at hotmail.com

ImageKLStuart
Apr 19, 2010 5:44 AM CST
Name: Kelly
Simpsonville, SC
Here's my Lime nicotiana (specific unknown, alata or affinis (labeled one, but for some reason looks like the other), from JonnaSudenius). It really was a great plant, sturdy, no staking, interesting color... but man did it seed! I'm thinking maybe use it on the patio again, but use Preen every month instead of every 3 months!

This picture isn't actually my patio one, but rather one I had in another bed planted later. It was much smaller than the potted one, and having learned my lesson I deadheaded it early.

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Imagestarlight1153
Apr 19, 2010 1:38 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Oh, how pretty it is. : ) Now how can you tear up something that looks so nice. ; )
Imagetcs1366
Apr 19, 2010 6:03 PM CST
Name: Terese
Leesburg, FL zone9b
Wisconsin Dells Area, zone4
I think I got my "reds" for Jonna too. I'm still hoping for seedlings.
Terese -- Leesburg, FL & Lake Delton, Wi
My Email is my userID at hotmail.com

ImageKLStuart
Apr 20, 2010 5:41 AM CST
Name: Kelly
Simpsonville, SC
Oh, Ella, I still have plenty of it, just don't want to crush the pretty things while trying to cross the patio!
ImageHemophobic
Apr 21, 2010 5:37 AM CST
Name: Angie
North Carolina (zone 7)
My columbines seed with abandon as well, but I can live with them. What I can't live with is oenethera siskiyou, pink evening primrose. Yikes! I wish someone had warned me before I planted it, because I now have an entire bed that is being taken over by that stuff. I will have to redig the bed, including all my good plants, and redo it, putting down that despised landscape fabric to eradicate those millions of seedlings. I am not exaggerating here, folks, MILLIONS!!! I've pulled it out by handfuls, barrelfuls and it's still everywhere. Never again.
I think that if ever a mortal heard the voice of God it would be in a garden at the cool of the day. ~F. Frankfort Moore, A Garden of Peace

Imagestarlight1153
Apr 21, 2010 6:21 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Ya know Angie. They are not invasive here at all. The winter took out all mine this year. I had the pink and the yellows. Come to think of it, I don't even remember seeing seed pods on mine at all. What did your seed pods look like? If ya happen to get a pic of seedlings to, would like to see one. Wonder if maybe mine made some seedlings and I tossed them out thinking they was weeds.

If ya got bunches of them, let em grow up a couple inches, and if ya feel like it, pull some up and wrap the root s in a piece of wet paper towel and then a loose baggy around the roots and toss in a small priority box and I'll pay ya for shipping for some more if your just gonna toss them.
Imagetcs1366
Apr 21, 2010 9:52 AM CST
Name: Terese
Leesburg, FL zone9b
Wisconsin Dells Area, zone4
Angie.... i'll make note of that... while it is pretty.. i looked it up in Plant Files and others feel the same as you.
Terese -- Leesburg, FL & Lake Delton, Wi
My Email is my userID at hotmail.com

ImageHemophobic
Apr 22, 2010 6:11 AM CST
Name: Angie
North Carolina (zone 7)
Ella: You got it, but don't say I didn't warn you! Wish I could send all of them to you. They're even coming out in cracks between the rocks in this wall:

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I think that if ever a mortal heard the voice of God it would be in a garden at the cool of the day. ~F. Frankfort Moore, A Garden of Peace

Imagestarlight1153
Apr 22, 2010 6:33 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
What a beautiful wall! Hate to even think how much something like that cost let alone took to build. Seems a shame that stone has to cost so much. How long did it take you to build that bed.

I need to find me a good rock quarry, get me a pick and ax and dig me my own out. Would only take me about hundred years to get enough stone. LOL

Let me know how much postage is and I'll get it off to ya.
ImageHemophobic
Apr 22, 2010 10:33 AM CST
Name: Angie
North Carolina (zone 7)
Ella: That's the smaller of two walls DH and I built 3 years ago and, of course, we picked the hottest time of year to do it: July and August! I can't tell you how many gallons of water we consumed and still had to knock off during the hottest part of the day. The hardest part is the prep work: digging, putting in drainage, laying the bottom course and getting it level. From there on, it's just a matter of stacking them up. This is some of that castle wall rock from HD or Lowe's, has the lip on the backside, but altogether, the walls took DH a week of prep, trips back and forth to HD/Lowe's and then I pitched in on weekends as I had time from work. It was not for the fainthearted, but it's doable. I'd pick autumn or cooler weather to do it again, though.

There's a wall I built by myself about four years ago, just got flat blocks from Lowe's and laid them as I had time. I did make an effort to get them level and they do go back into the ground on each level for stability. I'll post a photo tonight when I get home from work.
I think that if ever a mortal heard the voice of God it would be in a garden at the cool of the day. ~F. Frankfort Moore, A Garden of Peace

ImageTex68
Apr 26, 2010 8:23 AM CST
Name: Alfred aka Beach Bum
Jersey Shore, NJ
Last year I made a mistake of planting Aster Wood's Blue and Pink along a slope in my mix perennial bed. They look so pretty in the pictures and sure do they look fabulous when they flowered in mass last fall.
This spring, they were all over the garden bed up to several feet away as they have underground runners. The worst part is if those runners shoot up right at the base or crown of other plants. I had to dig up a lot of plants and re-plant them to get rid of the runners.
For now I transferred them in an area I really don't care for. I was thinking of planting them in pots and burying the pots in the ground to contain the roots and avoid the runners to roam freely. I have other variety of asters - sure they're fast to multiply but they form a clump instead of runners.

Yarrows/Achilleas are the same thing. They look nice when flowering but they also spread fast with runners. However they're easy to contain by thinning them out with a spade as the runners don't run that far as compared to Aster Woods.

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ImageHemophobic
Apr 26, 2010 8:22 PM CST
Name: Angie
North Carolina (zone 7)
Okay. Forgot to post that photo of the small wall I built by myself. Here 'tis:

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I think that if ever a mortal heard the voice of God it would be in a garden at the cool of the day. ~F. Frankfort Moore, A Garden of Peace

Dreams01
May 2, 2010 7:01 PM CST
Name: Carolyn McDaniel
Summerville, South Carolina
Angie ,
Love your brickwalls and hard work I think the plants just love it can't wait till I can find plants that just repeat there self's each year that bloom beautiful.
I know some are invasive , do have some myself but nothing like I have seen here guess we are just to hot,
Carolyn
ImageKLStuart
May 3, 2010 5:33 AM CST
Name: Kelly
Simpsonville, SC
Hmm. Carolyn, I rely on bulbs (Daffs) and other perennials (Dahlias, Irises, Peonies, Clematis) for return flowers down here so far. The newest favorite for me is Malva Sylvestris Mystic Merlin. Seems to laugh at the heat, and every one that I had last year came back, whether it was in a pot or in the ground.

I DID have a beautiful lavendar colored Verbena that came back, and some Agastache, Portulaca, Nigella, Alyssum and Calendula that self seeded from last year. In years past I had Monarda that would self seed... but that wasn't necc. a positive experience. Swore off Monarda until now... trying it again this year because the hummers and butterflys love it. Will just have to be more vigilant about dead heading!

Things I'm trying this year that I'm afraid will reseed or spread like crazy are 3 types of Agastache (since they're related to mints...), Penstemons, Verbena Bonariensis and Milkweed... and probably a bunch more Sticking tongue out I have a feeling the more seed I plant from trade, the more I will get things that produce lots of seed... makes sense that that's what we'd collect more of. But, I'm thinking it's worth it ... we'll see!
Imagestarlight1153
May 3, 2010 5:57 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Tex... Beautiful Aster bed. I love Asters, but have major problems with them here. The heat and humidity does a number on them and they mildew very easily down here. Maybe I should try and plant some of your type cultivar in my back woods. If they run wild maybe I could get them to spread out along one area in the back that so full of nothing but weeds.

A few things I have known to send runner s out like cray I have dropped pots in the ground. It doe s slow them down some until they find the holes in the bottom of the pot and escape. Then I think they try and get revenge traveling as fast and as faraway to hid e in other plants in the hope s ya won't discover them til it to late and they well established.

Would just have to watch maybe that they wouldn't try and overtake any of the wild flowers and species that I have back there too much for the butterflies and bees.

Angie... How delightful! That what I need to do with this badly sloped land is make some stair step walls. Maybe I'll start going around again and having friend try and save me cinder bricks. Your little whimsy is cute too. : )

KL.. Did you start your Mystic Merlin from seed? I am having the dickens of a time trying to get seed started from it. Your right the hummers sure do love Monarda. It hard to keep a delicate balance between keeping enough and letting enough plants reseed to feed our nature friends and not have our garden designs over run.

ImageKLStuart
May 3, 2010 6:43 AM CST
Name: Kelly
Simpsonville, SC
Ella, I did start them from seed. Indoors last year, but WS'd them this year and have a bunch (and don't need any, since they all came back) ! I could send you some small plants if you'd like!

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