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Imagetcs1366
Dec 10, 2010 7:14 AM CST
Name: Terese
Leesburg, FL zone9b
Wisconsin Dells Area, zone4
We came from here.... http://cubits.org/ellasgarden/thread/view/43648/

Links to Important Posts:

Box arrival thread http://cubits.org/ellasgarden/thread/view/45553/

What to send to Ella http://cubits.org/ellasgarden/thread/view_post/434213/

Seed List Database http://cubits.org/ellasgarden/db/hogwildseedswap/browse.php

What is "land-race", by Joseph http://cubits.org/ellasgarden/thread/view_post/471773/

Here's a guide to seed viability: http://www.hillgardens.com/seed_longevity.htm

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Terese -- Leesburg, FL & Lake Delton, Wi
My Email is my userID at hotmail.com

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Imagetcs1366
Dec 10, 2010 7:16 AM CST
Name: Terese
Leesburg, FL zone9b
Wisconsin Dells Area, zone4
Written by Ella --

IMPORTANT !!!!!!!!! PLEASE READ!!!!!!!!!!!

For our ne w piggy Terra who is also new to gardening , trying her first attempts, I still can't get Terra's computer online. At the bottom of my list list here, http://cubits.org/ellasgarden/db/hogwildseedswap/view/17788/

I have put available/have s list at the bottom. Also her wants. For her wants I just listed general stuff. Basically she looking for any flowers or veggies. He r haves list is the extent of he r seed bank.

She at docs and I still have folks working on electric here, so if your list is still open, would ya pleas e be kind enough just to pic out a couple things and put he r name on them , and then post here what ya picked for her. Just so I can keep a bit of a count. I know with folsk all closing don't have time to go and individually oink for for her with things here.


Secondly, Folks don't worry about what ya may have forgotten to do or may have done wrong. LOL. Just get your seeds here, everything else is easy as making a mud pile. I can figure everything out. Just remember other than your Have s list or adding to your wish list, please don't be deleted anything from your list. We have had folks get sick yet want to play and have been able to not do more than send seed s in and I have put up lists and sorted out individually for folks their seeds. We all help and guide each other.

Like as has been said above, we all divers e people, and everybody doe s different ways. I put up guidelines and such, but when folks just learning, they do the best they can.

That part of the fun, which you will see later, the mass of diversity and creativity each person does.

And Like also said this is about building new relationships and sharing our love and knowledge of gardening. What great too is even after ya get your boxes, folks need to know how to grow stuff and the output of everybody contributing their pics and experiences in their areas is awesome.

Somebody may want to need to know how to grow a tomato seed and we may have 6 folks offer advice and it great, because usually one of those suggestions will work for somebody and nothing better than finally after failed attempts of being able to have a little plant standing there growing. Smiling

Some of you will now be starting to head out for the Christmas holidays. I hope that you have a safe tips and a good time. Make sure ya let me know when ya back. We'll worry about ya til ya are.

For those staying home and just enjoying a quiet time, there will be a lot of us all hanging around here, to chat and share the season with. Group hug
Terese -- Leesburg, FL & Lake Delton, Wi
My Email is my userID at hotmail.com

Imagetcs1366
Dec 10, 2010 7:19 AM CST
Name: Terese
Leesburg, FL zone9b
Wisconsin Dells Area, zone4
Steven Congrats on being the featured cubit today. If ya all haven't been there, check it out. http://cubits.org/beautifulblossoms/ Hurray!
Terese -- Leesburg, FL & Lake Delton, Wi
My Email is my userID at hotmail.com

Imagetcs1366
Dec 10, 2010 7:21 AM CST
Name: Terese
Leesburg, FL zone9b
Wisconsin Dells Area, zone4
Written by Ella --
Quoting:
Now that I got the important stuff up , catching up on chatter.

MJ Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing oh ya. The very first time I collect ruellia seeds, I didn't know they popped. I had them on kitchen counter and was doing the duck and hid e til I figured out what was going on, then was scrounging around on hands and knees playing chase the seeds. The next year I put them in a jar with piece of paper over them to get air to finish drying and they blew the paper off and I still had to chase seeds.

I tell ya all I waiting for a reenactment of the movie birds here at my house. I can't even leave solid open with glass door closed cu it open a crack at the top and the birds smelling all these seeds. I open door to go in or out and they all come a running. I get dirty looks when I don't throw anything out. Then I feel guilty and come back in and throw out crushed pecans and bread and crackers for them. Yard full of wild seed for them, they just to lazy go to get it.

Lynn. If ya still have a Sunflower Chanti available would ya toss my way if your able.

Forget off hand, but who ever it was that grows Cinnamon, sure would love to learn how when ya get a chance.

Andi.. Probably in January or February will be having a group buy for pots, buckets, trays and such. Will let ya know when. Will also have a massive amount of 6" pot s and 8 and 10 inch used offered up for postage.

Mekos.. I feel for ya. Did ya get a tuber. Your ginger should be a tuber. Take it and plant it in a six inch pot and plant it to where and little eyes , which will look like little black or brown dots on normal gingers, but not sure on the blue as I have no seen one before, and lay on top of pot and just barely cover it. Let most of the tube r show and put it in a nice warm sunny spot, but not hot spot. Don't over water it. Let it dry out and then giv e a drink or you'll rot it in a heart beat. You should see some growth in about 3 to 4 weeks.

If ya see any mushy rotten spots, cut them out and let dry and then plant. If ya have a touch of rooting hormone, put a very light dusting on that area.

try and make sure ya plant your eyes up. If ya plant upside down they will grow, but best to get the most eyes on the top or sides in the soil.
Terese -- Leesburg, FL & Lake Delton, Wi
My Email is my userID at hotmail.com

Imagetcs1366
Dec 10, 2010 7:27 AM CST
Name: Terese
Leesburg, FL zone9b
Wisconsin Dells Area, zone4
Ella -- I checked out Terra's list and I have a few things for her. most will be from my personal stash, but I've got enough to share.

and what is easier to grow than Marigolds and Zinnias? But i'll get working on a baggie for her too.

and ... ALL i had for you was the Marigolds we spoke about late summer? you didnt need anything else? but then you get to rifle thru all the extras.
I had the short, compact Yellow and Orange Marigolds. I still have tons of Tashkent, though it is a larger plant, maybe 12-14" ... i have 3-4 frozen plants in my front bed still, with many many seed heads.
Terese -- Leesburg, FL & Lake Delton, Wi
My Email is my userID at hotmail.com

ImageSorellina
Dec 10, 2010 7:40 AM CST
Name: Julianna
Victoria, BC USDA Zone 8
BEANS are easier to grow than marigolds and zinnias. Silly flower people! Rolling my eyes.

Ella, I grow Cinnamon Basil. Regular cinnamon needs a much much hotter non-snow-infested climate.
Grazie a tutti,
Julianna
Imagetcs1366
Dec 10, 2010 8:27 AM CST
Name: Terese
Leesburg, FL zone9b
Wisconsin Dells Area, zone4
Question --

The seeds we are setting aside for Stormy .... are they going to Jill, or is Ella going to send them to Stormy herself??

I only have Morning Glories for her, but plenty of them -- Milkyway and GrandPa Ott
Terese -- Leesburg, FL & Lake Delton, Wi
My Email is my userID at hotmail.com

ImageAndi
Dec 10, 2010 9:05 AM CST
Name: aka GardenQuilts
Facebook, NGA
and the beloved Winston the pug
I posted this message on the trade thread, repeating it here:

I have some Shasta Daisy 'Alaska' and purple echinacea seeds left if Terra wants some. I also have lots of purple 'star of yelta' morning glories and two kinds of yellow marigolds. I haven't closed my list yet if Terra or anyone else wants anything on it.

I sympathize with Terra's computer difficulties. Libraries have free internet computers here. They may have software and beginners classes as well. Her phone company may have dial up or internet "bundles". It may be a good deal for her. It is best to both call the phone company and to check the deals online if possible because they seem to have different deals in each place. They don't tell you about the specials unless you ask. Around here the cable tv company has package deals of cable/phone/internet. I don't get cable tv, but neighbors do. If she gets service with the phone or cable company, she can call customer service to walk her thru it or log into her computer and fix it. I'm sure that she will find an affordable option somewhere. She is lucky to have you as a neighbor - you need someone to help you spread peanut butter on the trees this winter....

Speaking of peanut butter, one of the kids in the neighborhood made me the cutest thing - a pinecone spread with peanut butter and rolled in bird seed. It was a craft project in daycare. I hung it on my garden Shepard's hook for the birds.
ImageSorellina
Dec 10, 2010 9:10 AM CST
Name: Julianna
Victoria, BC USDA Zone 8
I make those pinecone feeders a lot during the winter. Mom's in CA and she sends me the big pinecones like from Evelyn's neck of the woods, the Sierra Foothills. They have a lot of space between bracts so they can handle a lot of peanut butter and seeds. I love watching the squirrels hang on them upside down and get their little paws in there to reach the peanut butter. It's like dinner and a show.
Grazie a tutti,
Julianna
ImageBluespiral
Dec 10, 2010 9:28 AM CST
Hi Y'all - a piggy just let me know she can't grow poppies and them's fightin' words, so following is me at my Enabling Best, no time to edit -

Would you consider winter sowing some Shirley poppies (Papaver rhoeas) asap directly where you want some to bloom in the garden? It'll look horrid, but place plastic milk jugs right over where you sowed the poppy seed, with tops off and bottoms cut out right over them in the dirt and stake them so that the wind can't blow them off? Just as an experiment. On a spot that's a little loose from gardening or minimally turned over. Or perhaps you could put in some hoops with row cover cloth over that and anchor that cloth against wind? Or invert fencing shaped like a tunnel, but the milk jugs would make the poppy seed less likely to wash out.

Alternatively, I really recommend the hos method of Trudy's wintersowing method for poppies at http://www.wintersown.org/wseo1/Life_of_a_Poppy_Bed.html . Nevermind what folks say about transplanting plants with a tap root like poppies. Just break off a hunk of sprouted seedlings (while they are still small and while there's still freezing going on) and stick them in the ground - that's what hos means: hunk of seedlings. When sowing tiny seed, I like to cover the surface with 1/8 - 1/4" of coarse sand, as well as mix the seed with more sand to help distribute them over the surface.

Just try a small spot as an experiment.

It's not too late to join http://www.nargs.org , whose seed list goes up on the internet 12/15/10. They usually have manymany species of poppies, and you don't want to plant the same ol' thing every year do you?

Perhaps try a square foot or so where you might plant a late vegie?

The Enabler

ps - well, timing is everything for some plants. 6 weeks before first spring frost is traditionally best for sowing poppies, and August is a good time to sow pansies. For pansies, have them stored in the frig at least 2 weeks before Aug sowing, and sow in the house and grow on somewhere "cool" like under trees and gradually move them into sun as season cools. I think there might be some that can overwinter in zone 5 - http://www.stokeseeds.com (or Google Stokes Seeds) is good about telling you which latitude pansies/violas do best in their plant descriptions. Remember Tasha Tudor? (google her too). She kept her favorite strain going by growing over winter in a cold frame, from which she could pick bouquets quite late in season - she lived somewhere north in New England.

all righty - am reallyreally signing off now - attached is a watercolor or painting or chalk by Childe Hassam of Celia Thaxters poppies as they marched down to the Atlantic beyond her garden.

Celia Thaxter's Garden, Isles of Shoals, Maine, 1890, by Childe Hassam
source (scroll down to given title; I think image use is allowed for nonprofit sites) - http://www.the-athenaeum.org/art/by_artist.php?&sort=&id=131...

will also post this to the piggy chat thread, in case any other piggy needs enabling - as far north as you are, I could only dream about growing cool-weather flowers as well as you can like poppies, sweet peas, delphiniums...Thumb of 2010-12-10/Bluespiral/cdf1c5

I'll come back later today and catch up on the piggy threads then
My religion is simple. My religion is kindness. Dalai Lama
ImageMistirose
Dec 10, 2010 9:35 AM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
I be here! Hurray!
ImageSorellina
Dec 10, 2010 10:09 AM CST
Name: Julianna
Victoria, BC USDA Zone 8
LOL Bluespiral-

I have no problem admitting that was me. Nice try, but we don't have milk jugs up here. THIS, ladies and gents, is what we have:

Thumb of 2010-12-10/Sorellina/efb5fa
Grazie a tutti,
Julianna
ImageStephGTx
Dec 10, 2010 10:32 AM CST
Name: Stephanie Gonzales
Texas
Is that milk? In a bag? Confused Blinking
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
ImageAndi
Dec 10, 2010 10:34 AM CST
Name: aka GardenQuilts
Facebook, NGA
and the beloved Winston the pug
I managed to wintersoww (in soda bottles) both shirley poppies and Lauren Grape poppies last year. (Lauren's grape are Papaver somniferum, opium poppies). A neighbor has California poppies that have reseeded and returned for her for the past three years, so they may work wintersown as well. Last year was my first year wintersowing. I sprinkled the seeds on the surface of the mix.

The poppy seeds that I bought a couple years ago -Burpee closeouts-didn't germinate at all. I had better luck with traded seeds. Maybe ours are "better" or fresher?

Attempts to start poppies indoors were completely unsuccessful for me.

perenniallyme
Dec 10, 2010 10:34 AM CST
Name: Sharon
Jamaica Plain, MA
That must be quite a feat - getting milk into and out of a plastic bag. Will the wonders of modern technology never cease.
ImageAndi
Dec 10, 2010 10:36 AM CST
Name: aka GardenQuilts
Facebook, NGA
and the beloved Winston the pug
I use soda bottles for winter sowing. I don't drink milk, but do drink diet soda. I like them. They are like mini greenhouses.
perenniallyme
Dec 10, 2010 10:40 AM CST
Name: Sharon
Jamaica Plain, MA
Fortunately (or not) I drink tons of skim milk by the gallon, so I usually have enough jugs to do my wintersowing, and they're very easy to cut and puncture.
ImageSorellina
Dec 10, 2010 10:46 AM CST
Name: Julianna
Victoria, BC USDA Zone 8
Yep, that's milk in a bag. There are caddies for the bags, plastic or even fancy ceramic ones. Then it's a matter of cutting the corner of the bag which takes a bit of practice so it doesn't slop all over, especially when it's full. Butter's fun up here, too. It comes in a solid 454g/1lb brick. No sticks, campers, you gotta cut it yourself and that's loads of fun, too. I do stock up on dairy when I'm in Buffalo. Dairy's crazy expensive up here.
Grazie a tutti,
Julianna
perenniallyme
Dec 10, 2010 11:02 AM CST
Name: Sharon
Jamaica Plain, MA
Well I suppose it's more environmentally friendly. Less plastic and paper waste, even though we do recycle. Dairy (and everything else) is pretty expensive here too these days.
ImageSorellina
Dec 10, 2010 11:21 AM CST
Name: Julianna
Victoria, BC USDA Zone 8
$5 for 1 lb of butter and $4 for 3 litres of milk which is less than a gal.
Grazie a tutti,
Julianna

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