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Imagestarlight1153
Jun 8, 2011 5:38 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
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Imagestarlight1153
Jun 8, 2011 5:46 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Well they finally did it. We have gone from no watering between 10 am and 10 pm to now absolutely no outside watering at all. Things have been bad before with droughts, and we always had the water restrictions during summer, but this the first time here the big no watering at all.

Ya know it getting bad when finally even the weed s are rolling up and dying. They don't want people putting wells in here, yet they telling folks they can't water.

Tonya.. I keep wanting to say Purple Star Hibiscus, but I just don't think that right. Maybe later I'll think of it.
Imagestarlight1153
Jun 8, 2011 7:18 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Tada.. Now I remember what it is. Red Shield Hibiscus. Came in for cup of coffee and it finally hit me.
ImageSorellina
Jun 8, 2011 8:04 AM CST
Name: Julianna
Victoria, BC USDA Zone 8
So how are you going to keep your garden alive, Ella?
Grazie a tutti,
Julianna
ImageMistirose
Jun 8, 2011 9:15 AM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
Well, that just means no sprinklers right? Whistling
nbgard
Jun 9, 2011 3:25 PM CST
Name: Tonya Rose
Blanco, TX
Yes Ella! Hibiscus acetosella. Hmm, need to move that baby! Didn't know it was going to get so big, but excited that it is doing so well. Maybe I had better wait until fall to move it and just trim it when necessary for now. What do you think? We are feeling the drought intensely here, too, but they haven't said we have to stop all watering. The restriction hours only apply to sprinklers, here. Hand watering can be done at any time.
Tonya
Imagestarlight1153
Jun 10, 2011 4:53 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Tonya... I really don't know. For some folks it is a perennial and for some an annual. I don't have enough experience with it to tell ya. I know small seedlings I have left outside over the winter in smaller pots did not survive.

Sorellina... I gonna keep watering. I don't waste water and conserve when I can. If they want to tell me I can't water my food and herbs especially, I will fight.

The water folks coming out net week to check us around the neighborhood. First w e had orangey, rusty, than cloudy and it fizzled like it ha d alkaselter in it and now it cloudy and doesn't want to clear up and ha s what looks like dish soap residue on the top. The water tec says it just air cuz the tanks are so low causing the cloudiness. But the cloudy doesn't want to clear up.

Also, knowing we get period s of drought, I will grow some plants early, grab a harvest and than let them die, and than start sowing again at beginig of July and by the time the seedlings get up and ready for the field, by then we usually have cooler temps and water from storms again. That usually give s me about 120 days to get things up grown and harvested again. Also most of the pests are gone too and plants aren't stressed as much.
ImageLeBug
Jun 10, 2011 10:51 AM CST
Name: LeBug 6b
Greenville, In.
Tonya I planted that hibiscus in a couple of places a few years ago and they took over the whole bed if I were you I'd go ahead and move it if it's a size you can move easily, that thang got huge just in one summer! They aren't perennial here for me but I bet they are for you.

Oh my Ella hope you have water for coffee Big Grin
ImageMistirose
Jun 10, 2011 10:00 PM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
Anyone have a greenhouse? a small one, like 6x8 ish. If so do you cool it? considering a window unit in a small one so I can grow my hydroponics in it through summer.
ImageLeBug
Jun 11, 2011 6:24 AM CST
Name: LeBug 6b
Greenville, In.
Stand back people I'm about to burst with joy Hurray! Hurray! Hurray!

I have been here for eleven years asking people to till me a garden just a small place so I can grow some darn veggies well it finally happened last night Hurray! Hurray! Not sure what I can plant this late but I'm sure going to try three types of corn, lettuce, two types of cukes and some beans already have my tomatoes in the ground and my peppers just dug holes for those cause I was tired of waiting, I'm so darn happy today and we are finally getting rain today so I'll probably get stuck in the mud but it hasn't rained a lot yet so gotta get out there after this cup of coffee and get started Big Grin

I got some seeds from the swap for those moon and stars watermelon and have been really wanting to try those too just hope there is enough room for them and those landrace cantaloupe from Joseph don't guess I can plant them in the same spot? Will it make them taste like eachother? Maybe one in with the corn?
ImageKLStuart
Jun 11, 2011 7:58 AM CST
Name: Kelly
Simpsonville, SC
Hurray! Yippee!!! Happy Planting!!
Imagebitbit
Jun 11, 2011 8:04 AM CST
Name: bit
Eastern VA and NC
Zone 7b/8a
LeBug, you can plant your watermelon and cantaloupe together. They aren't the same species, so they won't even pollinate each other. Watermelon are a bit more vigorous in my experience, though, so make sure your cantaloupe have room and don't get overrun.
ImageLeBug
Jun 11, 2011 8:56 AM CST
Name: LeBug 6b
Greenville, In.
I have two seperate gardens one is smaller so I put the cantaloupe in the smallest bed with the cukes and zuc. at one end didn't think about the watermelon taking so much room until I was in that smaller garden I've got a gate I'm going to elevate to grow my acorn squash on there so they don't take as much room, but thanks bitbit :) I have one end that isn't tilled going to put a piece of carpet over it to put my moon and stars on it's bigger and won't have to worry about critters getting my melons as much lol

Last time I had melons I picked a melon up nice and big ready to get it cold and eat it and it was only a shell the whole bottom was eaten out I have chicken wire I'm going to put around them and the cantaloupe when they start growing so the varmits can't eat them!

I've read to pick some blooms off so the melons have a better chance to grow and get bigger maybe? Does anyone do that? I'm just wondering how much to space the blooms, getting ahead of myself here. I'll be happy to have very few melons and really only have room for one plant of each cause I know how long they get.

I'm so excited planting this garden Rolling on the floor laughing The sun made me come in but I'm sure the clouds are on their way I see them coming had to come in and cool off.
Imagebitbit
Jun 11, 2011 9:04 AM CST
Name: bit
Eastern VA and NC
Zone 7b/8a
I've never picked off blooms. My melons never had many female blossoms at a time, but I guess if yours put a bunch on at once, you might need to. Most of the blooms are male, so the plant isn't going to spend a lot of energy on them.
ImageLeBug
Jun 11, 2011 9:15 AM CST
Name: LeBug 6b
Greenville, In.
I had no idea huh, I wondered why some of the blooms didn't make melons do the zucchini do the same thing I've had those to have blooms and no fruit on them too.

Thanks bitbit :)

Am I planting this corn righ is it an inch deep I keep wondering about that don't have a package to go by.
nbgard
Jun 11, 2011 9:34 AM CST
Name: Tonya Rose
Blanco, TX
Thanks Ella and Leah. I guess I will go ahead and move it. Maybe I will try to root a couple of cuttings in case it doesn't take the transfer in this heat.

This is my first year with watermelons and they seem to be doing well. When do I know to harvest them? We tried one and it wasn't nearly ripe, even though it sounded hollow when it was thumped.
Tonya
ImageLeBug
Jun 11, 2011 10:04 AM CST
Name: LeBug 6b
Greenville, In.
Joseph hope you are around lol Planting my garden and have landrace oschata from you I googled and it's a squash but what kind do they vine or is it a bush :) Need to know to plant it I just don't know too much about these thangs lol

Anyone know which they are incase Joseph isn't around?
Imagejoseph
Jun 11, 2011 10:08 AM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity
I think it would be fine to plant melons and watermelon in the same space. I often let volunteers grow in among the other vegetables. Seems to work fine.

Zucchini have male flowers (with a skinny stem) and female flowers (with a fat stem). I don't ever pick immature fruits from my plants in hopes that the remaining fruits will grow bigger. I'd rather have more smaller fruits anyway.

Determining if a watermelon is ripe depends somewhat on the melon. I really like Blacktail Mountain watermelon because it turns very dark green when it's ripe. On all melons there is a curly tendril where the melon connects to the stem. If that is well dehydrated the melon is ripe. Some melons turn yellow when ripe on the underside where the melon touches the soil.

I plant corn about 1.5" deep.
Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
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Imagejoseph
Jun 11, 2011 10:13 AM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity

The Moschatas are vigorously sprawling vines. Probably you'll get some kind of butternut or necked squash. They'll easily grow 10 feet long. I normally space rows about 6-8 feet from other things, and kick tendrils out of the way if they go where I don't want them.
Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
Imagebitbit
Jun 11, 2011 10:37 AM CST
Name: bit
Eastern VA and NC
Zone 7b/8a
Yeah, it takes a lot of practice to tell if a melon is ripe by thumping. I worked for an old farmer who could always tell, but to me they wouldn't sound much different.

I use the same test as Joseph - when the nearest tendril is dried out, the melon is ready.

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