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Imagetcs1366
Mar 2, 2012 7:44 PM CST
Name: Terese
Leesburg, FL zone9b
Wisconsin Dells Area, zone4
hey gang... .sorry been away WAY too long, just finishing up a HUGE vacation.... not home yet, but i just saw the news [yes, i'm totally out of the loop]

anyone heard from Lea??

tornadoes hit southern Indiana ....

I sure hope she's OK.

Terese -- Leesburg, FL & Lake Delton, Wi
My Email is my userID at hotmail.com

ImageLeBug
Mar 2, 2012 9:02 PM CST
Name: LeBug 6b
Greenville, In.
I'm fine Terese thanks Smiling

We had storms all around us and tornadoes, some people around us in other towns are hurting pretty bad those were some mean tonadoes cleared a lot of houses to the ground we got lucky this time seems like the tornadoes just keep getting bigger and coming a lot more than they used to that's the scary part just waiting for that one to take our town apart.

I'll know more tonite on the news where they hit the most around here I do know it sounded pretty bad where Robin/
dryad57 lives now in Corydon, west of us I think?
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Imagetcs1366
Mar 2, 2012 9:21 PM CST
Name: Terese
Leesburg, FL zone9b
Wisconsin Dells Area, zone4
Robin told me they were building a new house, but can't recall the town... may have to look that up.
Terese -- Leesburg, FL & Lake Delton, Wi
My Email is my userID at hotmail.com

ImageLeBug
Mar 2, 2012 9:37 PM CST
Name: LeBug 6b
Greenville, In.
It's in Corydon Terese just added it to my post. They are suppose to be living in a cabin so I'm really wondering how she is that cabin couldn't be that safe they may have went somewhere else for the storm I hope so.
ImageLeBug
Mar 4, 2012 1:14 PM CST
Name: LeBug 6b
Greenville, In.
Julianna ran across this and thought of you but I'm sure some of the rest of us can use this tip too I'm sure going to try it think you can try anything that grows like celery too and cabbage:

http://chickensintheroad.com/farm-bell-recipes/re-growing-ce...

ImageLeBug
Mar 4, 2012 1:44 PM CST
Name: LeBug 6b
Greenville, In.
It is so cold and windy here today! We have been having such a warm winter (I have spring fever so bad) I really shouldn't complain. I've been cleaning up in my beds as much as I can in between the rain drops and cold, it's been raining here so much just can't believe we are having this spring weather all winter and here. Today I'm wanting to get out and work in the yard Rolling my eyes.

I talked to the neighbor about going in on a leaf blower/mulcher when they go on sale and he said you know it's not spring yet yep I know Rolling on the floor laughing But I need to get these leaves off of the beds before they kill my other plants coming up guess I'm going to have to do it the old fashion way and rake them into bags till I get a mulcher...I just hate doing it that way cause I've already gotten two ticks on me for the year! The bugs here are going to be really bad this year I've seen the skeeters all winter!

Had a mishap with my table top lights yesterday. Came up from downstairs and smelled an electrical heat smell so I checked my lights on top of the fridge figured that's where it was coming from so I turned them off from the switch on the cord to them and it popped and no lights anymore Crying I do have a friend that is a electrician but very seldom see him taking them to him to see if he can do something with them can't afford to buy more my cousin gave me these a few years ago and they are so handy just can't imagine being without them Sad

{{Hugs}} Ella thinking of you and hoping you are alright and everything is working out for you Lovey dubby
nbgard
Mar 4, 2012 3:47 PM CST
Name: Tonya Rose
Blanco, TX
Hey Leah,

I am currently growing celery in the way described in your link. I have tried letting it sit in water a while to root then put in dirt (this worked best). Straight into the dirt only had so-so results. I have also discovered that non-organic celery rotted in the water before it rooted. I have heard that onions can be done this way, but I think it is more productive to get onion starts!
Tonya
ImageLeBug
Mar 4, 2012 3:56 PM CST
Name: LeBug 6b
Greenville, In.
I think they said on there the one that did it just put the core in water for a day then put it in dirt but I'm just wondering I never could grow celery just thought I'd give this a try will try the organic thanks Tonya Big Grin I've got a grow bag figured I'd try one that way too.
Imageragtag
Mar 5, 2012 10:56 AM CST
Name: Ann
Rock Hill, SC (Zone7-8)
Hmm...have to try to root a celery core! I usually buy organic, but I don't have any right now that hasn't been de-stalked. Nice tip, Lea!

Help please, Jonna. I thought I was having really good luck with the big variety of seeds that I wintersowed with your vermiculite method, but when I went out for a check this morning, I found quite a few little sprouts that have withered up before they got their first true leaves. There were dozens of alyssum babies (1"-1/2") just 2 days ago, and they are all dead. (They were still all sealed up in their little "greenhouses".) Same with most of the hibiscus that had sprouted. Maybe those just aren't good candidates for this process? If I still have seeds, maybe I should start over indoors? And another question....What do I do once the little seedlings have their first set or two of real leaves and are ready to be transplanted...but it's still too cold for them to make it uncovered outside in their own little pots? Pot them up and bring them indoors for a few weeks? Your ideas have been a lot of fun to experiment with this year...thank you!
ImageJonnaSudenius
Mar 5, 2012 2:23 PM CST
Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe
Ann,
I really don't know what happened to your seedlings. Both Alyssum and Hibiscus I sowed in vermiculite without any problem. The only thing I can think: was your vemiculite too wet or too dry? Or did you have temperatures that are not well for these seedlings?
I NEVER lost seedlings in the vermiculite. Sometimes I loose seedlings after transplanting, because the seedlings can't handle transplanting.

Once the seedlings have their real leaves, you can transplant them. If it's still to cold, leave them in the area you let them sprout. I never bring the wintersowed seedlings indoors, unless there is a realy hard freezing expected. Just leave them in the vermiculite or transplant them as soon as they ave their first true leaves. Winter sowed seeds and their seedlings will survive, even if frost comes later. Only havy frost will kill them, like in nature.

Here we had crazy temps. In 10 days we had -20°C and + 17C°

You're in zone 7/8, so don't be afraid about your seedlings that are hardy in zone 6 or lower.
I understand your worries about the frosts, but starting hardy seeds indoors make them weak.
To have really good plants, start every hardy plant outdoors. They will be stronger.
Okay, if the weather is really hard, you will loose some plants, but it will be an exception.
ImageLeBug
Mar 5, 2012 4:45 PM CST
Name: LeBug 6b
Greenville, In.
We've had crazy temps too! Had tornadoes March 2nd., Sat. ice cold and windy, Sunday in 40's and 4" of snow over night and early morning and now it's 50 degrees going to be 62 for tomorrow and 68 on Wed. Rolling on the floor laughing This is exactly why I'm afraid to try and WS now, my jugs were sitting with all of this snow on top and around them and now they are in the sun and the snow is gone around them Rolling on the floor laughing

Ragtag sorry about your little seedlings!
Imagecritterologist
Mar 5, 2012 8:37 PM CST
Name: Critter (Jill)
MD
FWIW, not all vermiculite seems to be the same... I've had some that held more water than usual and made my potting mix too wet, for example. Jonna, when your vermiculite is just moist enough, do you see a little "puff" of water mist on the inside of the lid? I use that little puff of mist to tell me when my seedling trays are just right.. no puff,it's too dry, and if I see big water droplets, the soil mix is too wet.
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ImageRickCorey
Mar 5, 2012 9:23 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Pacific NorthWet Zone 8a
Ann, do you need more Alyssum?

(LOTS) "My" White Alyssum plus chaff - looks like Lobularia maritima 'Snow Crystals' - from Rick Corey's garden 9/2010

(LOTS) Alyssum "Wonderland White" Lobularia maritima PELLETED [A] from Syngenta Seeds 2009

Alyssum "Carpet of Snow" - commercial seed from Lake Valley Seeds for 2011
ImageDiamond919
Mar 6, 2012 9:59 AM CST
Name: Anita Crusoe
Indiana
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LeBug, is the an Orange and Lemon gaillardia? Or Lemon and Orange? It's very pretty!
Love prospers when a fault is forgiven, but dwelling on it separates close friends.
ImageJonnaSudenius
Mar 6, 2012 10:07 AM CST
Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe
critterologist wrote: Jonna, when your vermiculite is just moist enough, do you see a little "puff" of water mist on the inside of the lid? I use that little puff of mist to tell me when my seedling trays are just right.. no puff,it's too dry, and if I see big water droplets, the soil mix is too wet.


Yes, I see a little puff of water mist, but big water droplets not always tell it's too wet. If it's indoors (warm) big water droplets means they are too wet, but outdoors not. The size of the water droplets varies outside from puff to big, depending on the temperature changes.
Imageragtag
Mar 7, 2012 9:38 AM CST
Name: Ann
Rock Hill, SC (Zone7-8)
Thanks for all of the advice! I've got so many precious little sprouts in containers with vermiculite, and very soon it will be time to transplant them. I'm nervous about doing that, since the vermiculite is so loose on the roots.. I feel like it will all fall off, and the little tiny roots will be too exposed when they are put in their new pots. Any advice...Jonna or anyone who has done this? In my wintersown containers last year, there were holes in the bottoms, and I just removed the tops.

Yes, Rick, I would love some more alyssum seeds...any or all of what you have. I had such big plans for the ones I lost. Thank you for offering! Can I send you something in exchange?
ImageJonnaSudenius
Mar 7, 2012 10:16 AM CST
Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe
Ann, it doesn't matter whether the vermiculite stays on the roots or not. It depends on the seedling how much vermiculite will stay on the roots. Sometimes there is more vermiculite than seedling Hilarious! , sometimes there is no vermiculite at all on rhe roots. Just transplant them the way they come out of the vermiculite. That works perfect for me.
Imagechelle
Mar 7, 2012 12:22 PM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
Somehow I neglected to hit "watch this thread" when we made the jump....I had wondered about how quiet this group had been lately!

Things are going to be getting very busy around here too in the next few weeks. I have seedlings nearly ready for up-potting, and it's time to get busy sowing annuals as well. Sprouts indoors too, but no light set-up, so those babies go outdoors in a big clear tote with the lid open just a bit on sunny days.

I had a spill today too. The high winds blew down a 5 tier plant rack inside the SpringHouse. Blinking Luckily, the shelves weren't all full yet. I'm hoping that the seedlings that crashed will still make it. It happened while I was in it, so I was able to reset the plants right away.

Ella,

Burning off a field is one of the last things I want to do anymore. We once had a fire try to get away by crawling under the green grass showing on top - scary stuff!
ImageLeBug
Mar 7, 2012 11:43 PM CST
Name: LeBug 6b
Greenville, In.
Ragtag, just plant the seedling however they come out of the vermiculite they will be fine, sometimes with my little seedlings there's all kinds left on the roots and sometimes they are bare it's all good :) I have petunias and coleus growing in vermiculite downstairs and five jugs outside I'm really not worried about transplanting them I've never done the jugs with vermiculite outside before but I'm sure they will be just fine Jonna does all of her WS sowing that way it sounds like so it should work :)

I have big droplets of water in my WS jugs no water standing on the bottom inside though I'm excited about using the vermiculite in WS if this works it's going to be so much cheaper to WS I love it Hurray!

Diamond it's Gaillardia Tojaker I've grown it for a few years now can't remember who turned me on to it but it's so much prettier in person Doesn't like clay soil so I grow mine in a pot. Oh just checked my spreadsheet and I originally got the seeds from Maozamom in 08'. It's my favorite Gaillardia. If I have any luck with my 2010 seeds from it I'll save seeds for the next swap my orginal plant didn't come back last year.



I have big droplets of water in my WS jugs no water standing on the bottom inside though I'm excited about using the vermiculite in WS if this works it's going to be so much cheaper to WS I love it Hurray!
ImageDayjillymo
Mar 8, 2012 12:45 PM CST
Name: Jill
NW Missouri
LeBug - is vermiculite cheaper to buy than potting soil? Wow! I've read about using it to winter sow here on the thread, but haven't found any in the stores so far. I didn't catch that it was cheaper than potting soil, so I'd better start looking harder to find it! If any of you have tips on where to look, clue me in! Thanks.

I tip my hat to you.

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