Cottage Gardening forum: Piggy Swap #27 Let The Blooming Begin

 
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Imagestarlight1153
Jun 12, 2012 7:05 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Welcome all!

We came from here: http://cubits.org/ellasgarden/thread/view/67047/

Seeds have been planted and sprouted and now the hard work begins of finding the perfect spots to transplant, keeping the plants watered and feed and waiting for the blooms and fruits to arrive.

This is an open forum and all are welcome to share their highs and lows and failures and successes. Feel free to join in and share your gardens right along with us.

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Imagestarlight1153
Jun 12, 2012 7:38 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Just popping in a for a few and than will have to get back offline again. Puter still not working right. Needed and wished for rain really bad, and have gotten it in steady doses now.

Didn't get puter shut off in time and had lighting hit a nearby tree and it knocked out power for a bit and my puter.

From all the storms came home yesterday and found another one of my trees downed and blocked the main road. Had to get that cleaned up. Still need to get a broom and get little pieces of bark and wood up still.

Now I hoping for more breaks in the rain we supposed to have for the next three days yet again. Things are getting to wet and hoping that all my squash and stuff doesn't old and rot. Gonna get out the buttermilk in a bit and spray everything down.

Boy oh boy, putting all them leaves down sure did make a big difference. The plants took off like crazy and started growing over night it seemed. Now just hope to keep mildew off of them. Thanks SCButtercup. : )

Like everybody else, trying to get stuff in between the rain in the ground. The only good about being so late is everybody else has their stuff ready and we munching away on it and by the time their stuff is all gone, mine will be ready.

Been putting squash and zucchini up in the freezer.

Has anybody had or seen the zucchini called Limelight? Yes, it is a hybrid, but oh boy is it good tasting. Got get a pic of it. It bruises somewhat easy on the outside, but full of flavor on the inside. It is almost a white zucchini with hints of green in the skin. Cut one open and took a little taste and discovered it was so good that I ate the whole thing raw.

Haven't tried to make zucchini bread with it yet, and hope to maybe sometime this week to see if it tastes as good as the regular green zucchini.

To catch up. Thanks for the how to make the smoothies. Got some strawberries now just to try and get some bananas that not rotten around here.

Misti.... I agree with Chelle. I water all my cukes and squashes and such from the bottom. I tie the cukes up too. And yep Critter right, that just immature cukes dying off.

Thanks Kacee.... Yep, them green seeds are immature.

Which reminds me. I have the ornamental pepper Calico growing. Boy oh boy are them little fruits hotter than blazes. Had to laugh as I had a friend who swore he could eat anything hot and I warned him they were hot and he popped one anyways and than went crazy looking for something to drink. Now ripe they are a dark purple almost black, but a few of them are now turning red. Anybody know if I should save the seeds at the purple/black stage or at the red?

Kelly.... Beautiful pics. Are you under water too? I know all this mess we got from the gulf is headed up your way.

Joseph.... Oh man oh man..... Crying Crying So much work to lose so many plants. I know it will give you hardier stock in the end, but still that alot of hours and work to see if killed off.

How you doing out there? I saw on the news that the fires are now in your state and that those fires are moving fast and that there is zero containment on it. How the smoke in the air in your area and are you protected and have a way out if necessary?

Still so much crazy weather going on all over the place, it's like there so very few places where conditions are good to perfect anymore.

Ok, heading out to check things out and try and do a little bit of work before the rains come again. Hoping I can get a few more things in the ground and than let the rain get them settled good.

Stay safe everybody for those in bad weather areas. Group hug
ImageKLStuart
Jun 12, 2012 11:04 AM CST
Name: Kelly
Simpsonville, SC
Hey Ella, yep, we're getting a bunch of rain. I don't mind much, as my new shade bed could use the dousing, and I need the excuse to stay inside and plan where everything is going! Sunny, hot and humid at the moment, but storms headed in again this afternoon. Too sticky to do anything, so I'm going to plan..

Anyone know where to get a dwarf paw paw tree? Decided I want one since its a butterfly host, but don't really have room for the full sized version... though I may re-think that if I can't get a dwarf one. As usual, the nurseries around here don't have them. I placed an order with Niche gardens for a bunch of unusual things I wanted, but they didn't have the paw paw.

I've got vitex tree seeds from someone that I'm interested in starting... has anyone ever done that?
soilsandup
Jun 12, 2012 1:53 PM CST
Name: Dianne
Sacramento, CA, zone 9a
Sorry to hear about all the bad weather in some parts of the United States. We will not have any rain here for the next 3 months or more.

Remember that unknown milkjug plant from several months ago? I planted them in the ground in late April and it bloomed in May. Anyone recognize it?
seedlings
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In bloom - overview and closeup
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poisondartfrog
Jun 12, 2012 2:20 PM CST
Name: Alana
Kentucky
It is a Silene. Maybe Silene armeria.
Not much rain for us. It is supposed to rain, day after day, and deluges apparently ensue around us, but all we get are dark clouds that never make good on their threat.
Does anyone know if it is normal for Cucurbita ficifolia foliage to be mottled like this. I have researched it and although some photographs hint at mottling, none look like mine. The plants are well fed and appear to be free of disease. They are otherwise robust and growing inches every day so I am leaning toward a natural variation, but I can't document it.
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soilsandup
Jun 12, 2012 3:38 PM CST
Name: Dianne
Sacramento, CA, zone 9a
Alana - thanks for the ID. I did request a silene of some kind in the 2010 piggy swap.

I hope you don't have cucumber mosaic virus - here is an article on it that has a picture of some mottling
http://web.aces.uiuc.edu/vista/pdf_pubs/926.pdf

But your leaves are not deformed, so it may be something else, or maybe nothing at all.

This was another plant that I wasn't sure what it was, but I saw a bunch of these in the botanical garden near the Capitol in Washington DC where I was visiting last week - so now I know that I have Salvia sclarea in my yard. I cut a bunch of spent stems and am starting my seed collection for this year's piggy swap. I am going to be so ready for it this year as I am collecting seeds as I go.... Thumbs up

This patch is from some direct sowing I did last fall.

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poisondartfrog
Jun 12, 2012 4:17 PM CST
Name: Alana
Kentucky
Thanks. I hope it is not a virus. It is such a strongly growing plant and has already run about 15 feet. I will be very unhappy if it fails at this point.
ImageMistirose
Jun 12, 2012 8:19 PM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
Thanks for the help. I have alot growing, not much harvesting yet. Blinking
Imagejoseph
Jun 12, 2012 10:09 PM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity
Lots of smoke in the air, but that's just summertime out here. My fields are in a well irrigated area, so they don't burn... The ranch could burn. I keep vegetation well away from the living area, and the building is steel sided and roofed, but fire is unpredictable.
Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
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Imagebitbit
Jun 13, 2012 6:36 AM CST
Name: bit
Eastern VA and NC
Zone 7b/8a
Misti, I think you have a cockroach Whistling They come out white when they molt, then get their color as the new shell hardens. You can see the process here: http://thedragonflywoman.com/2011/03/09/molting-roach/ (though that's a hissing cockroach, so it's a bit bigger than the typical wild ones).

Kelly, you're talking about the native fruit paw paw, and not papaya (sometimes called paw paw), right? The trees aren't very big - they grow in the understory in forests here. I don't know how large they can actually get, but the ones I've seen are around the size of a dwarf apple tree. As far as I know, actual dwarf varieties don't exist - there isn't a lot of cultivation/breeding of paw paws since the fruit isn't commercially viable.
Imagecritterologist
Jun 13, 2012 6:44 AM CST
Name: Critter (Jill)
MD
Joseph, hope the fires stay well away.

That mottling is really odd... You might try throwing a handful of ironite at the plant if you have it, just to see if that greens up the yellow areas, but iron deficiency seems more liek something that would cause all-over yellowing.

I don't think I've ever seem a dwarf pawpaw for sale, but they're not a huge tree, maybe 12 feet wide and 30 feet tall at full growth and I bet you could just prune them to stay smaller. I find I have to really chop at my "dwarf" fruit trees, anyway, or they grow into full size ones.
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ImageKLStuart
Jun 13, 2012 6:47 AM CST
Name: Kelly
Simpsonville, SC
Yes I'm talking about the native variety. They're hosts for the Zebra Swallowtail, which I would love to attract to my yard. I finally saw one in person yesterday (the paw paw that is), and realized I can probably handle the full size version. There is a dwarf, Asmina Parviflora (vs Asmina Triloba for the full sized), but I can't seem to find any for sale. Also looking for Viburnum Carlesii 'Compacta'... found a source for it yesterday mail order, but would love to find both at the same place.. still have a few places to call! My yard, while not tiny by suburban standards, is only about 80ft wide (though quite long)... somehow the full sized versions of things seem too big in most spots I'm looking to fill!
ImageKLStuart
Jun 13, 2012 6:51 AM CST
Name: Kelly
Simpsonville, SC
Hey, in case anyone's interested, Mamajack is having a co-op on some beautiful new hellebores. These aren't the plain janes you're used to seeing! She's needing to get the order culled down to the best selling varieties soon, so get on over there and see if you want something before it gets written off as not popular! http://cubits.org/notfortheserious/thread/view/66519/ (Hope you don't mind me promoting Ella?)
Imagebitbit
Jun 13, 2012 6:54 AM CST
Name: bit
Eastern VA and NC
Zone 7b/8a
Starting to get fruits from some piggy plants!
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Not a swap plant, but I just love the teensy flowers on my soybeans.
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More non-swap flowers...

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And does anyone know what this little plant is? The previous owners must have put it in, but it's the most stubborn little thing, surviving every attempt we make to kill it.

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Imagebitbit
Jun 13, 2012 7:07 AM CST
Name: bit
Eastern VA and NC
Zone 7b/8a
Ahh, I didn't realize there were multiple species called paw paw. Does the parviflora have edible fruit?
poisondartfrog
Jun 13, 2012 7:30 AM CST
Name: Alana
Kentucky
I would be happy to send some Paw Paw seedlings, but it is a little late in the year to expect them to do well. A container grown plant might do better. The roots are a little on the fragile side and when I transplant them in other gardens I try to plant 2-3 saplings to insure success.
Spring is the best time to move them so if you do not get one this year let me know in March and I will send you some young plants.
Zebra Swallowtails, which were relatively rare in my garden years ago, are one of the most common butterflies I see now-love them! They make all that Paw Paw Fruit worth picking up. It can be a bit messy.
Critter I have been spraying those plants with a zinc and iron supplement and can't discern any improvement. I did pick a dreaded cucumber beetle off one last night but the plants are blooming and I am ever hopeful of harvesting at least a couple of fruits.
ImageMistirose
Jun 13, 2012 8:29 AM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
OMG Bit, I sure hope it stays outside. Maybe it was a flying one. Blinking
ImageKLStuart
Jun 13, 2012 1:53 PM CST
Name: Kelly
Simpsonville, SC
Thanks Alana, will try to remember and take you up on that. I've also read that they are easily started from seed... I'd love to try that if you've got any!

Bit, it sounds like the parviflora has very small fruit, so even if edible, not of a significant size like the triloba.
Imageragtag
Jun 13, 2012 2:00 PM CST
Name: Ann
Rock Hill, SC (Zone7-8)
Kelly, I put some Vitex tree seeds in the last stages of the swap. I had saved a couple for myself,and they sprouted and were growing nicely...but then I read how big the plant was going to be and gave the plants away. Wish I had known about your new bed at the time!

Can't wait to see your new back yard! Kelly is too modest! Her back yard is enormous and will look like an "open-to-the-public" garden!
Imageragtag
Jun 13, 2012 2:12 PM CST
Name: Ann
Rock Hill, SC (Zone7-8)
Alana, I have 3 little cucumber plants with mottled leaves that look just like those in your picture. They are very young plants (only a foot or so tall), and their leaves have looked like this from the minute the first real leaves developed. I got the seeds in this year's swap, but unfortunately I don't know what variety they are. I just assumed that they were supposed to look like that...even though they don't look like my others.

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