Cottage Gardening forum: #2 2012 Piggy Chat and Q&A

 
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ImagePatti1957
Nov 20, 2012 9:44 PM CST
Name: Patti
Eagle Point, OR
We came from here: http://cubits.org/ellasgarden/thread/view/71790/

Rules and Official starting line: http://cubits.org/ellasgarden/thread/view/71788/

The sign up sheet: http://cubits.org/ellasgarden/thread/view/71789/

Since it is hard for me to be here right now, The Admin Team is in charge. If they tell you something, it will be just like me speaking, so please be respectful of them and follow their advice and suggestions.

A few things have changed from last year, for one price of postage went up to cover this years increase. Second, I felt so bad about what happened with some folks not being who they were, so this year, even Survivors have to pay postage. Economy bad for everybody and hopefully that will lighten the burden a bit off folks and also keep things real.

As usual I have probably forgotten some things, and hopefully somebody will catch them. If I have and am not around, check with Tcs and Patti to make any corrections.



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ImageCCvacation
Nov 20, 2012 9:51 PM CST
Name: CC
PA
Grumpypants! Rolling on the floor laughing

Yes, my Grumpypants is rather fickle about trash decorating the yard, so I will need to NOT recycle for this project if I value our marriage. Hmm... maybe the shoeboxes are too short, then, in light of what you're saying about the pop bottles.

I was thinking about using the stretchy dish covers that look like hotel shower caps, maybe with a support that pushes it up to give the seedlings more head room when they need it...

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soilsandup
Nov 20, 2012 11:21 PM CST
Name: Dianne
Sacramento, CA, zone 9a
Star recently listed a variety of brugmansia seeds. Anyone know how long it takes for them to flower when grown from seeds?

ImageDanita
Nov 21, 2012 1:17 AM CST
Name: Danita
GA Zone 7b/8
Dianne,

I think some will bloom the first year and most should be blooming by the second year. Since you're in a warm winter climate, you're likely to get more first year blooms.
soilsandup
Nov 21, 2012 1:28 AM CST
Name: Dianne
Sacramento, CA, zone 9a
Thanks, Danita. Two years is no problem - but I was afraid it was going to be 5 years or more.
I currently have one white one which blooms sporadically, and die back from the few frost days we have so it never gets to be really robust. I would like to try some other colors and varieties that may be stronger. I have seen some gorgeous specimens dripping with blooms.......
ImageDanita
Nov 21, 2012 1:47 AM CST
Name: Danita
GA Zone 7b/8
They grow really fast if you give them all the fertilizer and water they want, which is a lot! They are piggies too! Big Grin
Yes, to me the prettiest ones are the versicolor hybrids with those fabulous pendant blossoms.
soilsandup
Nov 21, 2012 2:04 AM CST
Name: Dianne
Sacramento, CA, zone 9a
And you are an even later night owl than I am Rolling on the floor laughing

As it is now past midnight and another day has rolled around, I might as well oink for those brugmansia seeds...... Thumbs up
ImageDanita
Nov 21, 2012 2:14 AM CST
Name: Danita
GA Zone 7b/8
Yep, my sleep schedule can be a little erratic. HOOT, HOOT Hilarious!

Yes, I was thinking you'd like an answer tonight so you could beat the morning rush of oinkers!

Imagetoomanyanimals
Nov 21, 2012 3:54 AM CST
Name: Sharon
near Detroit, MI
Dianne, I grew them by seed once. I started them inside early ... can't remember the month. They bloomed by Sept, but only 3 or 4 blooms.
Pretty, but not worth the work for me to bring them inside or start from cuttings the next year ... which I tried too ... it works, but I like seeds better. Rolling my eyes.
Imagetoomanyanimals
Nov 21, 2012 3:55 AM CST
Name: Sharon
near Detroit, MI
Ugh, I'm up an hour early .... I must have set the wrong alarm. Grumbling
So to make that ugly face a smiley face .... I'm off to look at the seed lists AGAIN. Smiling
Imagetoomanyanimals
Nov 21, 2012 4:09 AM CST
Name: Sharon
near Detroit, MI
Osaka Mixed Flowering Cabbage
Chelle has this on her list and some of the pictures are beautiful.
Everyone says to use these after your annuals are past their peak .... End of Sept/Oct for me.
What do I do with them the rest of the time? Do any of you use these for Fall flowers? and what do you do with them in the summer while waiting for fall?
Imagechelle
Nov 21, 2012 5:20 AM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
toomanyanimals wrote:Osaka Mixed Flowering Cabbage
Chelle has this on her list and some of the pictures are beautiful.
Everyone says to use these after your annuals are past their peak .... End of Sept/Oct for me.
What do I do with them the rest of the time? Do any of you use these for Fall flowers? and what do you do with them in the summer while waiting for fall?


Sometime around the first of July, I sprinkled seeds in 4" pots of mix, then found out that they should go in the fridge for a day or two, so I bagged the pots and set them in. After two days, I set them out on the north side of the house in bright indirect light. They sprouted within a couple of days, but got lanky pretty quickly. I read that you can transplant these as deep as you need to, so I buried each seedling right up to the leaf cluster in a large Styrofoam cup. I put the cups in a tub with drainage holes and moved them out to a spot in the yard that's shaded to the west, and just checked them every so often for dryness. I was rather surprised at how easy they were to grow. The one thing I'll do differently this year is to start them just a couple of weeks earlier. I have a whole batch still in cups that never got planted out; they're still pretty, just smaller than the others. Smiling

poisondartfrog
Nov 21, 2012 5:33 AM CST
Name: Alana
Kentucky
I usually don't have time to give the chat thread more than a glance. I'm off for a few days and forgot to turn off my alarm, so here I am. Angry Rolling on the floor laughing
Flowering Kale and Cabbage are pretty all winter in my garden. In March they start looking a little ragged in part because insects become more active. For fall planting I start seeds in late July or early August and try to keep them in some shade until temperatures moderate. I'm not sure how spring planted ones would hold up through the heat and humidity here-I suspect they would bolt and go to seed.


ImageAndi
Nov 21, 2012 2:31 PM CST
Name: aka GardenQuilts
Facebook, NGA
and the beloved Winston the pug
I am single, so luckily he is a transient, part time grumpypants. I am looking for a part time happypants to balance things out!

Wintersowing containers aren't very attractive. Small ones are going to blow around the yard. I have seen people set containers inside a rubbermiaid, but I am not sure that would get enough sun. Do you have an area that isn't visible in your yard where you can put a group of containers? Mine are between my back door and a tall wooden fence. By the time it is warm enough to be outdoors, my plants are in the garden. Maybe this project will be incentive for your grumpypants to build/buy you a greenhouse.
Imagejoseph
Nov 21, 2012 2:52 PM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity

Sorry for squealing so much, but it's how I know to get the current thread added to "Your Posts"
Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
ImageJonnaSudenius
Nov 21, 2012 3:07 PM CST
Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe
Tomorrow is your last chance to join the Tombola
http://cubits.org/ellasgarden/thread/view_post/927443/

Just noticed Thanksgiving is tomorrow. We don't know that in Europe.
Everyone busy with Thanksgiving (or something else) , can send me a c-mail asking me to renew the ending date of the Tombola. So you will have extra time to guess the numbers of the seeds.
I was asked to renew the ending date, so now you have time until Sunday November 25


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ImageAndi
Nov 21, 2012 6:48 PM CST
Name: aka GardenQuilts
Facebook, NGA
and the beloved Winston the pug
My computer is still recovering the images from the camera card. It has been working away night and day. It is on picture 317 of 649. I should have clicked express instead of meticulous recovery. Oh, well....Have you backed up your camera images lately? If not now may be a good time....

I am waiting for someone to develop a decorative edible cabbage. Are the Osaka edible? Wouldn't those flower heads look pretty steamed and floating in a tureen of soup or something? Until then, I am happy growing Kale and mixed colored lettuce...Actually, they are edible according to the link I posted on the oinking thread. Wonder if they are tasty....

I was reading about petunias and read that people in my zone have good luck wintersowing them. I guess they would be a little later, but it is nice to know. Does anybody wintersow petunias?

Sharing a cute cartoon...

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ImageAndi
Nov 21, 2012 6:56 PM CST
Name: aka GardenQuilts
Facebook, NGA
and the beloved Winston the pug
Octoberfest is more fun anyway, JoAnna. You can have lots of fun without spending days cooking only to have people wolf down their dinner to hurry back to watch the game on tv. I am the grumpypants today. I wanted to go to the city to see the balloons being blown up for the parade , but no one wanted to go with me. I guess I could have taken the bus in myself, but then I would be taking the bus back, from Port Authority late at night on a holiday weekend. For you non New Yorkers. Port Authority is wino central any time of day and I am the girl they want to propose to (propose somethingorother, anyway, sometimes with rude gestures or previews of coming attractions added). I am a magnet for lunatics - my friends find it hysterical. Maybe someone is streaming the parade prep online - If I find it, I'll check back in with a link.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE - EVEN THE VEGANS
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ImageDayjillymo
Nov 21, 2012 7:10 PM CST
Name: Jill
NW Missouri
Andi - I love your stories!

My big dinner will be Saturday, so for all you who are already cooking and working hard -

Happy Thanksgiving to You All!
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ImageRickCorey
Nov 21, 2012 9:14 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Pacific NorthWet Zone 8a


>> What depth of container? I checked out disposable Tupperware and clear-sided shoe boxes today at the dollar store... Four and two inch seems most common. I'm thinking two inch would bruise their heads!


I always look at wal-Mart and Dollar Stores, but I see very few large tubs with clear toTOPS. Always the tub itself is clear or translucent, and the top is opaque.

I've thought of puting the LID on the deck, then parking pots on top of the lid, then snapping the clear tub on top of all that. But then, trying to unsnap the tub might knock everything over and scatter soil & seedlings everywhere.

So I'll probably stick with cutting a BIG hole out of the top, leaving just the rim that snaps over plus about 1" for strength. Then I snap that "rim" over some clear plastic film with a few slits.

The one year I tgried, I filled the bottom of the tub with 4" pots and 6-packs, since I wanted many varieties, and only small numbers of each variety.

My biggest emotional problem with WS is the "hunk of seedlings" concept. I can't get over feeling "that's just WRONG!"

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