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Dec 26, 2012 2:09 PM CST
Name: Patti
Eagle Point, OR
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Merry Christmas

Welcome to this years Hog Wild Seed Swap!! We hope to have another great year of fun, laughter, sharing, renewing old friendships and making new ones.

Below you will find the rules for this year. Whether you are a returning piggy or a new little oinker, please take the time to read and review them as there may be changes from last year.

If you would like to join this years swap, you can sign up HERE



The swap will officially start November 14th, 2012 and run until Midnight on December 12th, 2012. With seed packets mailed by December 20th, 2012 to me. As soon as all seeds are in and separated and reboxed to designated individuals they will be mailed out all at once. That should be no later than January 9th or 10th, 2013, if everybody has their seeds to me on time. They will go out sooner if possible.

Once the actual swapping is closed, if you have everything ready to mail to me before the 20th, that is fine. If you will be delayed a bit with your mailing to me, though, please let me know. Folks are mailing during winter and sometimes blizzards hold folks up and we want folks to be safe.

Think you missed the beginning of this swap? Don't worry! Smiling As long as there are openings, folks may jump in the swap anytime between November 14th and the close.

Are you a shy trader? New to this swap? Don't let shyness put you off. No need to feel overwhelmed either. It may seem complicated, but it's not. It's not any different than doing any other seed trade. Instead of you making just one or two trades at a time, to pack and ship out, you get to make many trades and just ship once. By the time you make one or two posts, you'll be a pro and wondered why you was ever nervous. Rolling on the floor laughing

Everybody here was a new piggy at one time or another and there are plenty of folks who will be glad to answer any questions you may have, or offer help if you need it. Feel free to ask. No question to small or too big.


Here are some links that you may find helpful:

Part 1
Part 2 & 3



What to send to Ella

Seed List Database

What is "land-race", by Joseph

Here's a guide to seed viability:

Foldable Seed Envelopes - great made with wax paper
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Dec 26, 2012 4:03 PM CST
Name: Terese
Leesburg, FL zone9b
Wisconsin Dells Area, zone4
starlight1153 wrote:Since time is limited, for those of you that have asked. Dad not doing good, but still hanging on. With weather being so bad, no way my vehicle will make it north and I have something more important to deal with now.

For the regular piggies, for years now ya all been with me as my son has made it for a quickie visit home from the service. Usually he pops in quick during piggy swap time and Tcs and ya all have held the fort, or should I make it the barn doors. Hopefully, I will get to see him for a little bit again. He is now about of the service, he was honorably discharged and is coming home. He coming home with injuries, some that can be seen and some that can't. He is classified as disabled now, so I just want to thank you all for being with me through the years with him and take time this Holiday Season to Thank a soldier for their service. God Bless all our military round the world. Group hug Lovey dubby

Ella -- sorry I missed this post... somehow I was not 'watching' this thread.

I wish to thank your son for his service to this great country, may he have a full and speedy recovery, physically and emotionally.

Belated Merry Christmas to everyone.
Terese -- Leesburg, FL & Lake Delton, Wi
My Email is my userID at

Dec 26, 2012 7:58 PM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
Im here Lovey dubby
Dec 26, 2012 9:17 PM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity
I made it to the new thread.
Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: Lofthouse
Dec 27, 2012 8:27 AM CST
Name: Jill
NW Missouri
joseph wrote:I made it to the new thread.

I agree I agree Me Too!
Dec 27, 2012 10:29 AM CST
Name: Deborah
Orangeburg, SC Zone 8a
Don't Sweat the Small Stuff!
I'm here too, and my package has been delivered.
Dec 27, 2012 6:46 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG My posts keep disappearing.

First Thanks everybody for your well wishing. Means alot to me and son.

Only little bit of time. At neighbors and only here a few so they can enjoy holiday.


JONNA 2 of 2 Yahhhhhhhhh one long hauler in. Ya canbreath now Jonna. heheheheh

Mail CALL from other day:

Dec 27, 2012 7:04 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
Since posts keep disappearing gonna make several. There a couple folks sending cmail too have questionsabout your box, will get back to ya as soon as I can to get answers.

Now...... Boy oh boy...... I been the past couple of days starting to sort and toss seeds. Well today I was having a good time and went to grab the extras out of somebody's box and happened to look down and about had a heart attack. There sitting on top of the pile of seeds was a wasp. Thank goodnss, he was sitting on a white package or I may not have seen him. Carefull as I could I took who package to backdoor and carefully got him out. Thank goodness he must have been oxygen deprived cuz he barely moved.

So ok, now I litle bit spooked. For you newbies, you have no idea of thethings I have suffered, ( heheheheheheh : ) ) during the opening and sorting of seeds. The stories are around on past threads. I'm thinking ok, now what gonan go wrong. Well it didn't take long.

I had a cup of coffee sitting at my feet, while I tossing and marking and all of a sudden thebox in front of me starts making noises. I'm like OH NO!!!!!! I'm freaking out by now, I wondering is there a mouse in th ebox, cuz they in the Po's and have munched on peoples boxes before. Than I wondered did maybe I not get the wasp out the door and it back in the box, but no, this is a different sound. An angry sorta hissing sound.

I go into panic mode. Up I jump and run to kitchen, dumping my cup of coffee all over the bedroom carpet and cup went went flying one way and me the other. No time to worry about it cuz I gotta hurry and get reinforcements by grabbing the botle of raid and windex and dishsoap . Had to be prepared in case one didn't work.

There I am armed to the tee with chems ready to fight and slowly start trying to pic out the seed packs out of the box and see if I cna see what in there. My hands shaking myknees shaking. I starting to sweat, so afraid whatevr in there gonanjump out andbite me. Thoughts of please don't let me get bit and have to have rabie shots.

I got brave and peered into the box getting ready to grab the need seed pack, raid, armed and ready in the other hand. I breath in, I breath out and I collapse on the wet carpet, which now as my rump wet and threaten to nail a certain piggy tail to the wall.

All, that and my angry sounding critter in the box was a packet of onionseeds slowly sliding around. : )

Hopefully all the surprises are over for a bit. hehehehehehe

Ok neighbor ready for bed, so gotta go.
Dec 28, 2012 1:54 AM CST
Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe
Found out that posts and mails disappear after using the smiley's
Dec 28, 2012 8:23 AM CST
Name: Robin Lange
Corydon, IN
Well, that's disappointing that the smiley's are causing the problem. Ella, I had to laugh at the mental picture of you arming yourself for war with a bag of onion seeds, and it brought to mind all of the other wars you've had with critters. At least the only thing you had to suffer this time was one lost cup of coffee!
Dec 28, 2012 12:36 PM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity

Reminds me of a time when I had a broken foot, and I was laying in bed about 3 AM and heard chewing inside the wall, and it wouldn't stop and was driving me crazy, so I figured that I'd drill into the wall to see how bad the termites were...

When I pulled the drill bit out, angry wasps came pouring out of the hole!!! I screamed my head off, and ran away on one foot. I had a little bit of sense about me that night, because the next morning when I went to check, the drill had been stuck back into the hole and spent the night hanging on the wall like a post-modern art piece.

I've learned my lesson about insects. Pea weevils and corn moths are the worst seed pests for me after mice. I freeze all my seeds as soon as they are dry enough. That kills the seed insects. I delayed shipping my box for a few days this hoggy swap because some seeds hadn't been cycled through the freezer yet. I know that y'all are sending such beautiful clever seeds to me, and would never intend to send me bugs, but bugs are sneaky, so all incoming seeds also go into the freezer for a few days before I put them on the shelf.

I think that after this growing season that I will quarantine my garden against the arrival of any new garlic cultivars.

Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: Lofthouse
Dec 28, 2012 1:03 PM CST
Name: Jill
NW Missouri
Joseph, do garlic bulbs contain insect problems we should be aware of? What is the quarantine for concerning the garlic bulbs?
Dec 28, 2012 1:42 PM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity
Since garlic is traditionally grown by cloning, it can tend to carry a lot of virus and/or fungus with it. And especially soil born pests like nematodes, and mites. Some people disinfect their cloves before planting.

Growing from bulbils can minimize the risk, especially if the bulbils are never allowed to touch the soil. When true garlic seeds become available the risks of importing disease or pests will be almost negligible.

Last growing season one of my close collaborators got a garlic blight that came into her garden with garlic from a major seed company. It severely damaged her garlic crop. I'd hate for that to happen to me.

This year, I imported dozens of varieties of garlic into my garden. It was necessary, because of the garlic breeding project I am working on, but every time I import a clove of garlic, I'm spinning the roulette wheel to see if I bring pests or disease with it.

Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: Lofthouse
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Dec 28, 2012 2:48 PM CST
Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe
Joseph, I'm in Spain now. Are you interested in Garlic bulbils from Spain?
I also find some lichens for you here in Spain. You'll have to wait until February until I can send them to you. Also have to find out how to make a box to send them to you with low costs.
Dec 28, 2012 6:08 PM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity

Jonna: No thanks on garlic from Spain. I am being very particular about which garlic I import into my garden: I'm only importing cultivars that are known to produce true (pollinated) seeds. So that ends up being mostly marbled purple stripe, and purple stripe that were collected in the Stans a few decades ago after the collapse of the USSR.
Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: Lofthouse
Dec 29, 2012 7:12 AM CST
Name: Sharon
near Detroit, MI
Joseph, I've never frozen my seed. Is there any seed that should never be frozen?
And what do you put your seeds into when you freeze them? Does it matter if it is plastic or paper?

Edited to ask another question.
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Dec 29, 2012 2:51 PM CST
Name: LeBug 6b
Greenville, In.
Oh Ella so glad to hear from you! I was worried about you with all the tornadoes in Al. the other day hadn't been on this thread :)

Sure wish you had your computer back so we don't have to wonder about you so much!
Dec 29, 2012 6:09 PM CST
Name: CC
Ella, had to read your message to the entire family, because I was laughing so hard! Hubby says you should wear safety glasses in preparation for the worse... Seeds could blind ya, you know!

Dec 30, 2012 1:39 AM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity

Some tropical seeds shouldn't be frozen, but I don't know which species.

In my garden, peas, corn, and sunflowers attract the most bugs, and are the most critical for me to freeze.

I put the seeds inside a container that seals hermetically, like a plastic bag, or a glass jar. That way when I take them out of the freezer and set them on the counter the seeds don't soak up water from the air.
Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: Lofthouse
Dec 30, 2012 2:25 AM CST
Name: Mary (Marti) Nelson
Ventura, CA
Peace and long life
Next year I will have seeds saved up so I can join the piggy swap. Just got back from Calif and my garden here was a mess. I lost some plants in the yr I was gone. Now I am slowly getting the garden under control, weeded and redesigned for spring planting. Plus I'm getting the veggie garden set up for container gardening.
Tahlmorra lujhala mei wiccan
(The fate of a man rests always within the hands of the gods)

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