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Mar 15, 2013 9:51 AM CST
Name: kacee
southern california
rick-have to say I like these better than the walmart ones, if only because they are way easier to open. dont know how to describe it exactly but one side of the opening is higher then the other and is way easier to seperate.
Mar 15, 2013 12:57 PM CST
Name: LeBug 6b
Greenville, In.
Thanks CC I checked that out and she just germinates them in paper towels I'd be to worried about them in paper towels drying out while I'm at the cat ladies, she doesn't say if they are turned up or down but thanks! They sure have a bunch of pretty dahlias!

I've grown them in the past but forgot if I turned them up or down and now since someone said it matters how we do it I'm afraid I'll mess them up I had good germination before now that I know there is a right way to plant them I'm afraid I'll do it wrong I'm planting too many this year to have a problem with them Confused Confused

Does anyone cut their dusty miller back in the spring? I just googled and they say to cut them back in July then again in the fall I had no idea, usually I just let them be ugly until they start getting more growth on them to cover the ugly up lol This year I was wanting to do them right.
Mar 15, 2013 1:47 PM CST
Name: Critter (Jill)
I know you want to do it "right" but maybe just plant those dahlia seeds sideways if you're not sure... like when you have a bulb and aren't sure which way it should go... they'd probably grow fine if they were upside down, too, but sprouting sideways they don't have to do much adjusting to figure out which way is up!
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Mar 15, 2013 7:53 PM CST
Name: CC
Its all good, LeBug! What Critter says makes a lot of sense.

BTW, most people throw the moist paper towel with seeds in a ziplock to avoid moisture loss... But do what feels right to you! It's all about being happy with dirt under your nails, after all!

So sorry, but I don't know where to find that original article.
Mar 15, 2013 8:32 PM CST
Name: Judy
Simpsonville , SC
I planted my dahlia seeds from the swap curved up, because I think that was the advice. I lay them on surface of seed starting mix, with plastic domes and lights and watered from bottom. Excellent germination.
Mar 16, 2013 6:30 AM CST
Name: Alana
I planted mine with no regard for any special sowing conventions and got 100% germination. I think I would rather not know if there is a "better" way. I might never be successful again. Rolling on the floor laughing
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I got sidetracked by an avalanche of tomato seedlings to deal with, but there are lots of great piggy seedlings getting started too.
Thanks so much piggies! After all of that longing for spring, now that it is here I feel like I need more time.

I hope everyone's piggy garden dreams are shaping up to become reality.

Mar 16, 2013 6:32 AM CST
Name: Margaret
Delta KY
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HI Everyone
My piggy seeds are sprouting good too. Going to sow some more today.

Mar 16, 2013 8:32 AM CST
Name: LeBug 6b
Greenville, In.
Thanks for the advice little piggies I'm going to be sowing them right after I get back to wallyworld and get some more vermiculite which will probably be tomorrow Big Grin

I don't like this green that is showing up on my earlier sown trays! From experience that means trouble!
Mar 16, 2013 8:50 AM CST
Name: Terese
Leesburg, FL zone9b
Wisconsin Dells Area, zone4
Oppps, forgot to watch this thread....

Got home last Saturday... it's been a tiring week.... Ella said she may get my seeds in the mail on Monday.
I should have some time to get some seeds sown before I head north....

was wondering.... I saw an image on FaceBook about sowing Tomato seeds in egg shells.

I googled it for more info.... but does anyone do this?

Last year tomatoes did not do well with the goofy weather we had, and wanted to give them another try this season.
I'll probably do a heat mat -- though it has been more difficult with Lucky [the cat who is into EVERYTHING]
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Mar 16, 2013 9:01 AM CST
Name: LeBug 6b
Greenville, In.
I've read about that too Terese but have never tried it looks to me that the roots would take over a lot faster that way and have to plant them pretty soon after them germinating if you would be aiming to plant them in the egg shells.
Mar 16, 2013 9:14 AM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
its to give them calcium, I think most do it for looks in the egg shells. you would do better to grind some egg shells and put in the soil. Here is a site I found pretty interesting I think I may pass on the fish heads though lol
Mar 16, 2013 9:57 AM CST
Name: Terese
Leesburg, FL zone9b
Wisconsin Dells Area, zone4
I'm just wondering if the roots can break thru the shell. someone posted that they put holes in the bottom of the shell.

maybe before 'potting up' I could break the bottom of the shell ..... may do the shell then pot into a larger cup, like peeps do the 16oz plastic cups.

Since I will be in WI by the time they need to be planted... I may put them over by my mom's place where she has a lot of sun... i dont have any.
I'm hoping she has a E Box planters i gave her yrs ago... those would be great for a rolling tomato garden.
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Mar 16, 2013 4:20 PM CST
Name: LeBug 6b
Greenville, In.
The Roots to the tomatoes would flow over the shell don't think it would be a problem I wouldn't expect the egg shell to break down it takes a long time for that to happen but it couldn't hurt it any it would be getting calcium from it.

I've got a wally world bag full of egg shells I've been saving all winter will have to remember to put some in with the compost for my tomatoes never really thought about putting egg shells in with them.

WOW those people on that site grow 125 different varieties!

Mar 16, 2013 10:55 PM CST
Name: Diana
Dayton, TX
LeBug here is the link on how to plant the dahlia seeds, if you haven't sown them yet. lol
Mar 17, 2013 8:46 AM CST
Name: kacee
southern california
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Mar 17, 2013 9:36 AM CST
Sure, an' may the green of ye're wintersown sprouts cheer a leprechaun :)

not sure this link will work -

Have sprouts yesterday from Allium christophii (2011!), lots of campanula rock garden species, various species of dianthus, Salvias incurva (white), S. jurisicii, S. viscosa; a silver-leaved low, daisy Tanacetum niveum; Lupinus polyphyllum 'Noble Maiden (thank you Alana) - off the top of me head - notes are downstairs.

Is anyone else enchanting leprechauns with wintersown sprouts yet? (I'm in zone 7)
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Mar 17, 2013 11:10 AM CST
Name: LeBug 6b
Greenville, In.
Thanks Diana nope haven'[t sown them yet was going to wally world today but didn't know we were suppose to get a couple inches of snow duh! Guess I'll be going for some fresh vermiculite tomorrow.

70 degrees outside yesterday so I weeded all day without watching the weather so today I've been pitching poppy seeds and the dang birds are right behind me Rolling on the floor laughing I pitched some bird seed under the holly but guess they like my poppy seeds better just hope they don't get them all! Our snow flakes are at least 2" around! Just beautiful!

Karen don't have any WS sprouts yet just started WS last week. Congrads on your babies Big Grin

Oh it's St. Patties day glad I have some green on I don't like to get pinched Rolling on the floor laughing
Mar 17, 2013 5:35 PM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
I might have a bit of green in my Amethyst Shooting Star container...from last year's sowing! Rolling on the floor laughing

Too early to tell yet for sure, but I'd be really happy if it turned out to be true! Smiling

I moved a bunch of my containers out of the all day shade's time to get this show on the road! If I don't get some of them going now I'll never get them all planted out before the heat/drought starts.

Prepped a dozen flats today to start yet more seeds. Whistling
Mar 18, 2013 4:27 AM CST
Name: Judy
Simpsonville , SC
Did my seedlings my tried and true way, indoors under lights. Made a half hearted attempt at winter sowing but I think I did it wrong. And I may have used low germinating seeds.
So sorry to those of you who got my pow wow wild berry echinacea seeds. Seeds will not sprout for me. And the rudbeckie, Very low germination. Ugh.
Other than that, everything seems to be sprouting more or less.
Best: dahlia seeds. Have to go back and see who they are from, two different folks I think. So exciting to be growing things I've not done before.
Now I have to work on getting those vegetable beds in shape, have to go to starbucks. Anyone else use coffee grounds?
Mar 18, 2013 6:28 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Pacific NorthWet Zone 8a
Hi Kacee

My "eBay Ziplocs" arrived and I agree they are at least as good as Wal-Mart. The Zip part looks beefier and seems to close with more authority. Maybe it makes a better seal? I like them, and I like "20% cheaper".

The "dispenser bags: are cute and much better than what I was doing. Which reminds me:

Someone found a source of Ziploks that come in a small dispenser box.
I thought to myself: "I have something JUST as good, and I bet mine is easier to get the Ziploks out of, too!" So I went home and stopped patting myself on the back long enough to get out my nicely-fitting car\board mini-box that I made from the end of a Ritz Cracker box, just the right length and wide enough to hold 150 2x3" Ziploks on edge. I can pick one out with two fingers.

As I was gloating over my alleged handiness and dexterity, I knocked it off the table and learned a big disadvantage of my proud design: 150-Bag-Pick-Up. Pride goeth before a spill!

The eBay plastic didn't feel any thicker than Wal-Mart, so maybe the Wal-Mart ones are also 2 mil.

I didn't notice the offset top edges, because I tried to open them the "one-hand way" I learned somewhere, to deal with Ziplocs that would rather tear than unzip after a few open-close cycles. These eBay Ziploks don't open the "one-hand way" at all! But "easy-open" the normal way is better.

I pinch the Zip part between thumb and forefinger, and squeeze, then slide the fingers so as to slide the two zip parts lengthwise (while squeezing, to get friction. That pops the ridges apart at the ends not under my thumb, so I can jam in a paper funnel or spoon or label with the other hand.

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