Seed Trading forum: OFFICIAL 2013 PiGGY RULES AND STARTING LINE
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| Welcome to the 2013 ANNUAL PiGGY SEED SWAP!! We hope to have another great year of fun, laughter, sharing, renewing old friendships and making new ones. Below you will find the rules for this year. Whether you are a returning piggy or a new little oinker, please take the time to read and review them as there may be changes from last year. If you would like to join this years swap, you can sign up HERE THIS SWAP HAS OFFICIALLY STARTED. STILL HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM AND PLENTY OF SEED, SO COME BRING YOUR SEED WHATEVER YOU MAY HAVE AND JOIN IN THE FUN. The swap will officially start NOVEMBER 16th at 5:00 PM EST., 2013 and will run until Midnight on December 16th, 2013. With seed packets mailed by December 20th, 2013 to me. As soon as all seeds are in and separated and reboxed to designated individuals they will be mailed out all at once. Once the actual swapping is closed, if you have everything ready to mail to me before the 20th, that is fine. If you will be delayed a bit with your mailing to me, though, please let me know. Folks are mailing during winter and sometimes blizzards hold folks up and we want folks to be safe. Think you missed the beginning of this swap? Don't worry! As long as there are openings, folks may jump in the swap anytime between November 16th and December 16th. Are you a shy trader? New to this swap? Don't let shyness put you off. No need to feel overwhelmed either. It may seem complicated, but it's not. It's not any different than doing any other seed trade. Instead of you making just one or two trades at a time, to pack and ship out, you get to make many trades and just ship once. By the time you make one or two posts, you'll be a pro and wondered why you was ever nervous. Everybody here was a new piggy at one time or another and there are plenty of folks who will be glad to answer any questions you may have, or offer help if you need it. Feel free to ask. No question to small or too big.  |
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| This swap is a bit different than some swaps as it has three parts. Those parts are : 1. General Main Swap - Where you ask for up to 100 or possible 100+ seed packets. 2. Piggy Trough - This is the one to one section. You get back one packet from the 1-1 seeds sent in for every 1-1 you send in. 3. Bottom of the Barrel - Extras that folks send in that are shared. Joining in Parts 2 & 3 are optional. Some folks just like or want only to join Part 1 and that is fine. PART 1 This is the general swap of “Oinked†seeds you ask for from folks. This part is for all participants Regulars, Newbies, and Survivors. You go down through everybody’s list. When you see something you would like, you come back here and post on the forum to that person your request. Then send them a cmail too stating your request. Some folks have limited time available and with all the requests they get they only have time to confirm your request by cmail. Some folks will confirm your request on the swap thread. Send them a cmail anyways. With all the requests flying, sometimes a post might accidentally get missed and the cmail helps prevent this. You’ll get a cmail back from them of confirmation letting you know if they still have those seeds available or if they are out and you need to make another request. Some folks only have internet privileges once a week, so be patient when waiting for confirmations. Also, we have had folks who have lost power from storms and such, but they will post and confirm as soon as possible. For oinking for seed on the thread. Please look at these examples to give you an idea of how it done if you've never been in a swap before. HERE HERE You can request from as many folks you want in one post, but only 5 items at a time a post. If somebody has 10 items you want, you will need to make two posts. Please try and bold the person name if you can. There is a 20 packet Oink limit on requests per day. In Part 1 there is a 100-pack limit on the "oinked " seeds going to you. It is your responsibility to keep up with the number of seed packets you have oinked for. To help you, on your database seed listing spot, there is a place where you can keep track of trades coming in and going out, if you want to use it. Sometimes, this limit is raised. If I raise limits, it will be announced in a bolded text post by me or one of the admin's. All important swap announcements are in bolded text, so make sure you read the threads. All persons in the Regular and Newbie group need to have at least a start on their seed list posted and viewable before they can request seeds from other folks. You can post all your seeds at once or due part at a time, whatever your comfortable with. All in the Survivor group, while you will not have a seed swap list, you will need to have your space in the swap database and your wishlist and about my garden section filled out before asking the Regular Piggies for seed. Due to weather conditions and when seeds may be harvested and ready, lists are added to constantly, so you'll want to check folks lists often so you don't miss out on something good. To get started: List your seeds and other information here: HERE Just click on add a new entry to this database. Put in your screen name and add your entries. To find other people’s list just click on any screen name. If you need help just ask. MAKE SURE YOU HIT THE SAVE BUTTON every time you add or delete or make a correction, so you don't lose your work. IMPORTANT: Now although people are encouraged to be piggies and oink for anything they'd like, that what we all here for after all, I am reserving the right to cmail and warn anybody I feel is going overboard. It's fine to ask for lots of seeds, but it's not fine to just go down and ask somebody's whole list because you don't feel like looking them up to see if you really want those particular seeds. That is just not fair and deprives somebody who may really have wanted those seeds to lose out on having them. If you receive a warning from me and don't heed it, you may be asked to leave the swap. ALSO Please don't abuse the Regular piggies good hearts. The seed offered up is for the participants in this swap, both the Regulars and the Survivors. Please do not be asking for seed for your friends. If they would like to get seed, let them know where to sign up and come ask for what they want. We would be glad to have them, they need to do their own oinking. Take your time in going through the seed lists. Make sure it what you really want. Use your 100 oinks wisely so that as seed is posted later you really want you'll be able to oink for it. |
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| PART 2 Is called the Piggy Trough and is the One-for-One Trade section. It is up to you if you want to join part 2 or not. Some folks do, some folks don't. Your not required. In Part 1 you can oink for up to 100 packs of seeds. To enable you to get even more seeds you can also participate in Part 2 and get up too another 100 packets of seeds. Here is how: This is where loose seed packs are shared among the general swap folks and Survivors alike. Here you can send in extra seeds for a one to one trade. For example, if you send in 20 additional loose packs, you will get additional 20 packs besides what you have oinked for in Part 1. If you send in only one extra packet of seeds you’ll only get back one extra packet of seeds. If you send me 38 packets, you get back 38 packets, You send in an additional 100 packets, you get back an additional 100 packets. If you send extra packets beyond the 100, for Part 2, they will be shared out so that Disaster Survivors get plenty of seeds and into part 3. For this part, no more than 5 packets of the same cultivar of seed. In other words, for example.. don’t send me 20 packets of Marigold Durango for Part 2. Only 5 will count towards the one for one swap, but you can send 5 packs of Marigold Durango and say 5 packs of Marigold French Cream. No more than a total of 15 packets of the same type/genus of seed. For example ..say you are sending 25 extra packets for Part 2 of the swap, no more than 15 of those packets can be marigolds. The other 10 packets would need to be a different type seed other than marigold. Make sure on your database spot that you fill in your wishlist and About my garden spot. It is from that information that I try to hunt through the masses of seeds to match up things for you. In this section it still a pot luck. I do the best I can for everybody with what comes in. Part 3 Now Part 3 is the bottom of the bucket seeds. Again this part you can join or skip. Sometimes we have folks that send in seed for part two, but either don’t want any one to one seeds back, or just a limited amount. Any seed left at bottom of the feed bucket will be passed on to Survivors, and Regulars, and Newbies who would like them. After everybody is taken care of, if there are still any seeds left that nobody wants they will go to any communities or any other charitable organization that will benefit from them. Let no seed go to waste! is our motto. : ) To get started, just make sure you understand Part 1. As the swap progresses and we get to parts 2 and 3, we'll go over these sections again. |
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| When the swap closes here is what you will be sending me... 1. Your seeds. Both the ones people have oinked for and your one-for one seeds if your participating in that part too, and any extras you may want to add to the trough. Since I need to send back as many packs as people send in, I need some help counting. LOL! On the baggies that are tagged for certain people, I would like the number of packs you've enclosed for that person written on the slip of paper with their name so that I don't have to go rooting through to count them. IMPORTANT....IMPORTANT You can send your seed to me in a bubbler mailer or in a box. Which ever way you chose, I highly recommend you send it PRIORITY. The PRIORITY boxes now come automatically with confirmation tracking. With cutbacks and such in the postal service it is best to be on the safe side, then to have your seeds lost in the mail. So far we have been lucky every year and all package s have arrived. But there can always be a first time. 2. Your real name and return address on a piece of paper in your bubbler or box. Also cmail it to me too. 3. Postage to return your mailer to you. Postage you will need is $6.00 for US folks. International folks check with me. Everybody's seeds gets shipped back in a priority mail box with a tracking number. Even though some of you new folks will only be sending in a few seeds,you will be getting back 100’s of packets of seeds and in some cases bulbs too. Bulbs weigh alot. Before offering up bulbs or tubers, please check with me first. I don't mind shipping them, but folks oinking for them need to realize that they will be paying extra for postage. |
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| DETAILS New to gardening? Just learning how to grow seeds? Worried that you don’t have many seeds or any seed s at all. Your welcome to join in the fun. You will receive back many more seeds than you send in, but you will be required to make an effort to send in something. If you have absolutely nothing to send in, you could buy a mega pack of a more unusual seed from a small seed house and divide it up into trade sized packages. Or, you could do the same with some inexpensive or bulk seed from the seed houses. You can also go around to friend’s houses and see if they have any flowers with seed on that they would let you collect. Seed Packets You can package your seed up in baggies or make your own seed packets. The choice is yours. Make sure all your seed packets are labeled. Please put the following information at least: Common Name Scientific Name Your Screen Name or Initials On those folks sending loose packets for Part 2 of the swap, besides labeling them, please put your screen name on them. If they don't have your screen name on them, and I read what you like, you may find them coming right back to you. With thousands of seed to sort through and group, I can't remember every packet that was sent by who. For the loose seed packs, which are packs for the general swap, not for a specific person, I will distribute these based on who I think will like them the best. I use your Wish lists and you about my garden section on your Database entries. All seeds will be welcome, and if we have any left over that no regular swapper or survivor wants, I'm sure folks on this thread will come up with some great ideas for their final home. Old seed is fine and that a part of this swap, but check for viability. *No Delphinium older than 2008 *No Larkspur older than 2008 * Here's a guide to seed viability: hillgardens.com/seed_longevity.htm Some seeds will last for years and years if properly kept. No problem with some older seed in the swap, but please, post that it is older. Seed packets do not need to be a required amount. Some seed is harder to find and some is common. Some folks may only offer up three to five seeds if it one of the more rarer ones. If your only offering a few seeds, less than a regular trade of 20-25 seeds, please post it on your seed trading list. A real time saver is to grab a box of cheap snack baggies, sandwich baggies, or ziplocs, and as people sign up, write their name on the baggie or on a slip of paper inside the baggie. So you can easily drop in their requested seed and count the number of packets later. If you have seeds for each participant, you might need quite a few baggies. Some seeds are premium seeds because they are rarer and "worth more". As loose packs of seeds come in, I will sort of separate those out and distribute them in a way that makes sense in terms of what people send in (or ask for, as in the case of survivors). Wishlist The last wrinkle is your wishlist! When you sign up, please post some seed you would like to have. You can always post more. You can always change it around too. These can be specific (Lupine 'White Snow') or vague (anything white for part shade). Try to be as specific as you can. Like any type Salvias or Echinacea. If you just put "anything for butterflies and hummers" or "anything for part shade", it hard on me. I am not familiar with all the plants around and don’t have time to look up every seed to see if for hummers or not. Note: You will not be considered "in" the swap until this Wishlist is posted. Some people have to work odd or late hours and may miss on out the seed they really have been Wishing for. Having the Wishlist lets regular folks pull those seed off to the side and save it for them or you. How To "OINK " For Seed For those who have not participated in the swap before, here is a guideline as to how to ask for seed. You can look at folks seed lists which can be found HERE BE SURE TO CLICK "Browse all Entries" to view others seed lists. If you see something you like, you come back to this thread or the main oinking thread we are on at the time and post something like this: "Star... I would like, or I oinking, or this piggy asking , ect..ect... for Snapdragon Purple Geranium Splish Splash then send that person a cmail soon as ya can for the same request. It easy just to copy and paste your post in a cmail too. This is so that folks who may be to busy working or such to watch the chat threads at the moment can check their cmails and answer you back whether they have your seed or not and edit their lists as they get a chance. And then you have folks like me who are mainly watching the threads and won't get to cmails right away to answer you whether they have the seed available still or not, but will answer right away on the threads and then your cmail later. It also lets other folks see that if somebody has 3 packets available on their list and three people have already oinked for them, that they can cmail the person and see if they may still have some available or not. Now some folks will not have their full lists all ready here as we begin, so you will want to watch the the swap thread, as maybe for example I will have 2 packs of some rare seed. Instead of putting it on my list, I may just put on swap thread something like this: " I have 2 packets of Snail Vine" then the first two piggies who oink for them, will get them and I will acknowledge on a post that I am putting them in their baggy. Please try and keep your seed lists updated as soon as you can. That way you won't have piggies asking for things you already out of. |
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| This swap is called Hog Wild or Piggy Swap for a reason. It is a swap and it a first to the trough get served, so if ya play in the mud to long, you'll miss dinner calls. : ) If you miss out on getting something you really wanted, ask. Sometimes the person can break up a trade to share. If they can't do that , then put it on your want list. Ya never know what ya might find in your trough at the end of the swap. : ) You will find that there will be times as folks post that they posted their lists, or added to their lists, that oinking will be fast and furious, then there will be time s it will go slow, only to start the process all over again. Don't get discouraged. Just take your time and ask questions anytime you want too. You will find that some of us with big lists will be breaking them down in small amounts at a time, so we can oink and answer cmails. Those of you with small list and new to the game, may want to just list one or two particular item up at a time til you get the hang of it. It won't take long though and you will be pushing shoulders with the best of the piggies. Let’s all remember our manners towards one another. We have alot of different personalities and folks from other countries, while fun shoving at the piggy trough, oinking at the top of your lungs, and wallowing in the mud together is permissible : ) ,... being disrespect on the threads will not be permitted. Anybody being disrespectful or otherwise misbehaving, I will ask to leave the swap. Anybody having a problem please contact me or one of the Piggy Swap Admid's. Keep the disagreements off the threads. I know we have a great bunch of people in the swap, but with so many folks, just have to make this point. Those new to the swap, at anytime ya get lost, have questions, don’t be afraid to ask. There a lot of fantastic seasoned Piggies here who will be glad to help. I usually forget some item or two, and reserve the right to add or edit as we go , but I think I have everything covered. Well, I think that about it. Always alot to read, but actually very easy, but with new folks, always like to try and put everything down. LINKS To Swap Lists: HERE To Sign up Threads: HERE Top Chat and Help Thread: HERE Finally all done, Be ready to yell Suuuuuuuueeee/eeeiiiiiiiii on Nov. 16th at 5PM EST. when this thread will open. |
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The barn door is open!!! Have fun  |
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| Squeak squeak grunt grunt = please please thank you thank you!!! squealing with delight for a chance to get seeds! Rising creek Cosmos. Double click Rudebeckia cherry beauty Zinnia giant cactus mix of colors Zinnia uproar rose Zinnia swizzle cherry and ivory Starlight1153 Medusa Ornamental pepper Rooster spur pepper Wildflowers Stevia Chelle Catmint pink dreams Money plant patrob Yarrow pink grapefruit Columbine Dorothy rose Columbine ruby port Marigold disco flame Marigold mr. Majestic toomanyanimals Daylily, Artistic Web x Bobbie Martin Daylily, Bobbie Martin x All About You 10 seeds Daylily, Debbie Smith x Bobbie Martin 10 seeds Daylily, Truly Angelic x Greywoods Java Illusion , 10 seeds Daylily, Zephyr's Song x Spiny Urchin 4 seeds Love what you teach and teach what you love! |
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| Oinking pretty please... RisingCreek: abutilon-nabab (black) rudbeckia maxima-giant coneflower zinnia-uproar rose zinnia-burpeanna giant poisondartfrog: Eschscholzia californica, XL Peach Strawberry Gomphocarpus fruticosa, syn Asclepias fruticosa Evelyninthegarden: Achillea ageratum 'Moonwalker' Hunnemania fumarifolia 'Sunlite' Patrob: Achillea millefolium (yarrow) ‘Terra Cotta’ Calendula officinalis (pot marigold) ‘Neon’ Zinnia Profusion Red Knee-High' Starlight Viola Sorbet Orchid Babyface Viola Venus Orange Viola Venus Purple Wing Rudbeckia hirta ' Sonora' wildflowers Snapdragon 'Appleblossom' Mistirose: California Poppy Buttermilk dayjillymo: Gaillardia ‘Galya Corneto Flame’ (Edited to correct the spelling of Mistirose's name.) |
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| Squealing and snorting for these seeds, please! Starlight1153 Portulaca ... Happy Peppermint Twist Tomato ‘ Cherry Grande’ Tomato ‘ Jelly Bean’ Sorbet Orchid Babyface Treasure White with Red Blotch dayjillymo Bachelor Button, red variety christine00 viscaria angel mix tomato pink brandywine morning glory split personality amaranth autumn pallette patrob Tomato - 'Amana Orange' Tomato - 'Brandywine Sudduth Strain' Tomato - 'Gardener’s Delight' aka 'Sugar Lump' JonnaSudenius Tolpis barbata Draba sakurai Globularia repens tcs1366 Penstemon Strictus wildflowers Heirloom tomato - Brandywine from Croatia Hordeum vulgare evelyninthegarden Ammi majus 'Graceland' Thank you! |
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| I’m happily oinking for the following seeds! Evelyn – Nasturtium, Tip Top Apricot kwilds – Carrot, Jaune de Doubs patrob[b] – Cosmos, Cossimo Sparkling Wine, Tomato, Peach Blow Sutton, Tomato, Joe Thieneman’s Australian Heart, Basil, Dolce Vita, Tomatillo, Two Colour Fiesta [b]poisondartfrog – Celosia, Mano de Gato, CA Poppy, Peach Strawberry, Gomphrena, Fireworks risingcreek – Bean, Good Mother Stallard, Bean, Tiger Eye, Kale, Redbor F1, Red Hot Poker, Zinnia, Cherry & Ivory Swizzle Starlight1153 – Tomato, Tomadose, des Conores, Tomato, Julia Child, Pepper, Calico, Pepper, Mammoth Jalapeno, Portulaca, Peppermint Twist Grazie a tutti, Julianna |
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 I am sooo oinking for Kwilds Grain "Einkorn Wheat" Lettuce "Slowbolt" Lettuce "Prizehead" Lettuce "Darkness" Bean "Amish Gnuttle" |
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| Suuuuuuuueeee/eeeiiiiiiiii OINK! SQUEAL! Oinking, squealing and snorting for SEEDS! May I please have these seeds? Chelle Toothache Plant (Spilanthes oleracea) Sneezewort (Achillea ptarmica 'The Pearl') Christine00 ammi majus rubra foxglove candy mountain boneset {eupatorium} Evelyn Ammi majus 'Graceland' Anchusa 'Dropmore' Gaultheria procumbens Greene Epazote (herb) Perilla frutescens/purple-red shiso Lilydaydreamer Columbine - pink open pollinated Patrob Castillea purpurea (Indian paintbrush) Gaillardia pulchella 'Sundance Red' Poisondartfrog Ammi visnaga, Green Mist, garden Callicarpa dichotoma 'var albifructus' White Beautyberry, garden RisingCreek helenium-rubinsway Toomanyanimals Bobby Martin X Artistic Web Bobby Martin X Magic Lake Artistic Web X Bobby Martin Wildflowers Clammyweed |
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| I tripped in the mud on the way out of the gate. If I'm not too late, I would like to squeal for these tasty morsels: christine statice suworowii beans white greasy risingcreek abutilon-nabab begonia-queen red Star Pepper, Rooster Spur toomanyanimals Daylily Cross, Open My Eyes x Wren's Song - 15 seeds wildflowers Phlox 'Cherry Caramel' Phlox drummondii lilydaydreamer Daylily, Hemerocalis, x 5seeds - Mulberry Sherbert x Eat Our Wake Pintaheads 2012 seeds Please and thank you!  |
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| Greene Trifolium incarnatum RisingCreek squash-waltham butternut sunflower-mammoth Patrob carrot 'Cosmic Purple' Jonna Calendula officinalis |
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| Squeal oink oink !! Starving piggy making loud noises! Can I please please have some seeds: Patrob Mother of thyme, Thymus serpyllum Star of Persia, Allium cristophii Patti1957 Alexanders (Smyrnium olusatrum) Brandywine Black tomato Christine00 coleus copper basil opal ratibida pinnata evelyninthegarden Anchusa 'Dropmore' Dayjillymo Echinacea Ruby Giant Prairie Pillars Lilium, Black Beauty Lily greene Erythina herbacea, Cardinal spear Jewels of Opar, Talinum paniculatum Clematis ternifolia, Sweet autumn clematis RisingCreek Radish, French breakfast SCbuttercup Jewelweed Jonna Sudenius Achillea millefolium Tolpis barbata Thermopsis caroliniana Joseph I would love to oink some of those hazelnuts!! yummy!! Starlight Linaria vulgaris Butter & Eggs Shine Your Light |
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| Jonna Campanula carpatica blue Campanula carpatica white Cerastium tomentosum Snow in Summer Platycodon grandiflora Balloon Flower pink and white Olive Tree Olea europaea |
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| Christine00 sunflower russian black popcorn strawberry sunflower lemon queen |
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| Oinking for: First Oink: DayJillyMo Echinacea ruby giant Echinacea unknown bright pink Rising creek Rutabaga laurentian Evelyn Snow pea golden sweet Kwilds Amish gnuttle bean |
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| More oinks Dayjillymo Garden phlox tall lavender Osteospermum white with purple eye Evelyn racemosa 'Atropurpure black cohosh Chelle Clematis flowered columbine Rick Corey Shingiku chrysanthemum |
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