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ImagePatti1957
Dec 4, 2013 7:59 PM CST
Name: Patti
Eagle Point, OR
Chat thread... We came from here -- > #2 http://cubits.org/ellasgarden/thread/view/77127/

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Imagechelle
Dec 4, 2013 8:06 PM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
Finally found the single corn picture I have, Ella. Sent it in a cmail.
ImageRickCorey
Dec 4, 2013 8:11 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Pacific NorthWet Zone 8a

If someone still wants Pineapple Sage, I have some.
I also have Salvia coccinea 'Lady In Red' seed I collected in 2011.
I also have some Salvia coccinea 'Coral Nymph' seed, getting several years old.


Andi said:
I am allergic to mold and fanatic with drying seeds.

Do you ever use silica gel or "Oil-Sorb" as a desiccant? Or dry rice baked just short of turning at all brown?

If you have many small paper pkts inside a tight-sealing plastic tub, you can get the everything indie the tub extra-dry with some silica gel in a paper envelope.

In my house, "average" humidity in seed tubs seems to hover around 50% if I don't use any desiccant. And I know that seeds at 50% RH aren't as deeply asleep as they should be for the longest possible viability in storage (like aiming for 10+ years instead fo 3-5 years). What I've found by reading around is that many seeds will last as much as 4-8 times longer at 15% to 30% RH than they would at 50%.

Dianne / soilsandup
Please oink away! You're welcome to anything you can use from my list. I figure I'll still be "paying back" other people's generosity from my first year when I'm olde and gray. Umm. OldER and grayER.

>> I have been trying to find the seeds that I harvested over the summer as the seeds ripened, but for the life of me, I don't know where I put them.

I bet most of us know what that's like! There's a few things in that category for me, like daikon radish seeds. I had tons, but where did they go? I blame my cat for hiding things I can't find.

Just recently I found where I "lost" all the Salvia coccinea 'Lady In Red' seed I collected in 2011. (I think they were originally from Huneybunch_2000.)

Well, SOME rascal sneakily took them from the cleaning-drying area, divided them up into packets, labelled them, and then HID them in my Salvia jar in the "S. coccinea" baggie.

In two whole years of looking for them, it never occurred to me to look THERE!

(If anyone wants any, they might be slightly cross-pollinated with 'Coral Nymph'. Or not.)
Imagejoseph
Dec 4, 2013 8:47 PM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity
RickCorey: In my garden the most prolific pollinators of tomatoes are bumblebees. I counted at least 5 species of bumblebees on (only) two tomato plants. It's hard to tell exactly without high resolution photos, because there are so many details that go into an ID, and memory is so fleeting these days. But it was 5 or more species. Both varieties released clouds of pollen when vibrated. They were the only two varieties that released significant pollen for me.

I have attempted to grow the tomatoes on your list (except Manitoba), plus a lot of Russian/Siberian/Canadian/Arctic/etc varieties... They don't work out well for me because I have two issues going on. 1st is the short season, and 2nd is that I live in a dry desert mountain climate not a damp maritime climate. Celebrity, Rutgers, Early Girl, DX 52-12, and Sungold are pretty much our local repertoire of tomatoes.

I read about 5 years ago about a variety of tomato that is swarmed by pollinators, but I can't remember what it was or find a link to the page.

Next year I'm planning on growing around 144 plants that are descended from the two that were highly attractive to bumblebees. Hoping to get a feeding frenzy going.

Oh, and p.s. I am disappointed that I can't find a (different) pea hybrid that I want to share with the swap. I'm working on a winter hardy shelling pea that can be fall planted and get extra early growth in the spring.

Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
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ImageMistirose
Dec 4, 2013 9:09 PM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
Im here! Hurray!
Imagetoomanyanimals
Dec 4, 2013 9:12 PM CST
Name: Sharon
near Detroit, MI
Star, I sent you a c-mail with a couple of clematis. Maybe one of them might work too.

Imageevelyninthegarden
Dec 4, 2013 10:32 PM CST
Name: Evelyn
Northern CA Sierra foothills -
joseph wrote:Oh, and p.s. I am disappointed that I can't find a (different) pea hybrid that I want to share with the swap. I'm working on a winter hardy shelling pea that can be fall planted and get extra early growth in the spring.


Joseph ~ Do you mean one that will withstand the frost? I sowed some peas in August. I wonder if I should cut them back now, and then see what they do in spring??? We had a hard frost last night, and it didn't seem to bother the peas.

I have several varieties growing. I let you know if they survive the winter. One pretty one that you may like is the purple podded pea, with pretty two-toned flowers. It is supposed to be an heirloom. If I find that it does well, shall I save some seeds for you? I got it from a seed exchange and was told to share it.
Imageevelyninthegarden
Dec 4, 2013 10:36 PM CST
Name: Evelyn
Northern CA Sierra foothills -
Thank you, Corey, Jonna and Chelle for weighing in on the sedum and solidago re-seeding issue. Even though they are hybrids, some plants will re-seed. I was just wondering if these would. I would not expect them to match their parent plants.
Imagejoseph
Dec 4, 2013 11:50 PM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity
My winter low temperatures are frequently around -20F for weeks at a time. (Last night was -1 F.) Most peas succumb to the low temperatures. I am growing a strain of Austrian Winter peas that have survived those temperatures for 4 winters. They go into winter as plants about 1 to 3 inches tall. They are tiny seeds. Hard to harvest. Very long season. I could use them as a soup pea. They retain their shape during cooking.

Two growing seasons ago I crossed them with my earliest shelling pea, which has white flowers. I grew the cross out this summer. It was successful as demonstrated by the offspring having purple flowers instead of white. So if I can find the seed before the end of the swap I'll share it. Otherwise I'll grow it out and screen for winter hardiness next year. I didn't have enough seed to screen for winter hardiness this year.

I am growing purple-podded soup peas from a few different sources. They all look like the same pea to me. A bit more variety added to the patch would be a good thing.
Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
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Imagestarlight1153
Dec 5, 2013 5:54 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Corey Yes your friend can join. We have had folks join in just several days before closing. Just have them go to sign up thread and let us know they want to join and than they can hurry and get database set up and than start oinking. best totell them if they planning on joining to do so soon as a lot of folks starting to close lists.

Folks will help quide if need be.
ImageDanita
Dec 5, 2013 7:40 AM CST
Name: Danita
GA Zone 7b/8
Got this in an email from Seeds from Italy (Franchi seeds) - It ends today:

20% off all seeds - Use coupon code DECEMBER13 at checkout to get 20% off all seeds. These are current seeds, viable through 2014 with our usual high germination rate. You can save them for your own spring garden or give them as gifts. All seeds, in all sizes, are included in this sale. Coupon is good through Thursday, Dec. 5. Start shopping at http://www.growitalian.com.
Imagewildflowers
Dec 5, 2013 10:08 AM CST
Name: Christine
Northeast Texas, Zone 7b
Hmm Joseph, I wonder how your winter hardy pea would do down here in Tx.

mistirose Stay home tomorrow, many roads and bridges will be iced over! We're in for a 4-day hard freeze with 2 ice storms headed our way!
FAITH over fear!

Imagejoseph
Dec 5, 2013 10:38 AM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity

Wildflowers: I have plenty of Austrian Winter pea seed to share if you want to try. I bet that many of my Landrace shelling peas would survive the winter in Texas.
Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
Imagewildflowers
Dec 5, 2013 11:16 AM CST
Name: Christine
Northeast Texas, Zone 7b
Yeah, I sure don't need anything as cold hardy down here.. I'll go make an oink.
FAITH over fear!

ImageMistirose
Dec 5, 2013 11:49 AM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
yup Christine and we have to cross two bridges over Lake Ray Hubbard to get into work, so we may have a snow day or rather an ice day lol course I can work from home Glare hubby would be able to play lol
Imageevelyninthegarden
Dec 5, 2013 12:08 PM CST
Name: Evelyn
Northern CA Sierra foothills -
Thank you, Corey, Jonna and Chelle for weighing in on the sedum and solidago re-seeding issue. Even though they are hybrids, some plants will re-seed. I was just wondering if these would. I would not expect them to match their parent plants.
Imagechelle
Dec 5, 2013 12:13 PM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
I tip my hat to you.

You're welcome, Evelyn.
ImageJonnaSudenius
Dec 5, 2013 1:41 PM CST
Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe
Am I the only one with the problem not being able to find some already packed seeds? Grumbling I'm getting crazy. Thought I had everything under control. But now I can't find the already packed Comfrey seeds. I even contacted 3 piggies because it was on their wishlist and now I can't find the packets anymore. Thought I had a good system. Every packet was stored in alfabetical order and now there is only 1 of 6 left Crying And ofcourse it is seed that I'm out now.

But don't worry piggies who wanted the Comfrey. I will not mail the seeds to Ella before I found them. I'm 100% sure we had no thieves, my dog doesn't eat seeds from ziplocs and I'm also sure my husband didn't hide them. Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
Just have to find out where I left them.


Imageevelyninthegarden
Dec 5, 2013 2:23 PM CST
Name: Evelyn
Northern CA Sierra foothills -
Now, I don't feel so bad, Jonna! That happens to me all the time! I get everything organized except for a few things and then WOW, "What happened??"

You will find them.

I got some new printer ink for my printer, so I could print labels and the trade lists. Well, the printer ink disappeared. I was all over the place looking for it, as it is not cheap, and we do not live close to a place that sells it.

Then I FINALLY find them! So I go to put them in and at first I forgot to remove the protected film...if I left it that way, the printer could be ruined. (It has been a while since I have changed the ink, as I get the cartridges that hold more ink on the black.)

THEN, I fix that, but the cartridges would not go in properly....then, finally, I did snap them in right. What an ordeal! Hilarious!


I just have to laugh at myself..... Rolling on the floor laughing
Imageevelyninthegarden
Dec 5, 2013 2:25 PM CST
Name: Evelyn
Northern CA Sierra foothills -
I will be closing my swap shed on Sunday, December 8th.

Please check my list if you are still hungry and wanting more seeds.

Evelyn Smiling

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