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Feb 14, 2014 1:30 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
I already decided that next year, unless somebody has a family emergency, or such, that I not gonna wait for piggies that just too lazy to spend time putting their seed together. Bad weather I figure into the mix, always have over the years , figure for some emergencies too, cuz things do happen, it unavoidable and those matters come first, but pure laziness, nope not gonna deal with it, nor make the rest of piggies deal with it either again and be hung up waiting and waiting and me stressed out.

Danita... Your welcome!

There a few things I want to add when I get a chance myself cuz I know later I will forget.
Feb 14, 2014 1:36 PM CST
Name: Jill
NW Missouri
Ella, I can see that this swap didn't go as well as you would have liked, but I had a wonderful time. I don't know why some folks were so late in getting seeds in the mail, but setting up a deadline and holding to it is pretty universal in today's world. Just try ordering a sale item two days late and see where it gets ya! Rolling on the floor laughing

I'm looking forward to next year's swap already - if you need bodies or folks to help out to take the pressure off of you - just sing out. We appreciate all you do, but we're willing to help where we can. Group hug
Feb 14, 2014 1:49 PM CST
Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe
I got seeds from the hardy lemon tree from Mindy03. I know someone found out the botanical name. Tried to find it here and on the internet, but can't find it anymore.
Anyone who remember where I can find the botanical name?
Feb 14, 2014 2:07 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
I glad you did and I did too, I blame myself in the fact that I should of put a hoof down sooner. In the what 7 or 8 years I been doing this, this is the first time any real trouble and we been later than this one year before when PO lost Andi's box and I was willing to wait on it cuz it wasn't her fault, but not even starting to bag up your seeds til over a month after swap closed with no emergency, no cmails, no nothing, that just not acceptable to me. You all have deadlines to meet for growing seasons too and that is what I feel the worst about is that some of you are not going to be able maybe to get things planted you needed or wanted too.

A lot of folks wait to finish up bagging or such til after swap closes, hey do it myself, *Blush* and I expect that, especially with new piggies, they so excited about oinking, and than they get their stuff together, but it usually in a week or two which is fine by me.

I try to anticipate for everything, but never figured on just being lazy. I will now. Whistling Hilarious!

Just so long as they don't totally lose a package than things are ok. If ya wanna feel sorry for anybody feel sorry for my admin team. Bless their hearts than been so good all along for me.

Feb 14, 2014 2:47 PM CST
Name: Margaret
Delta KY
I'm A Charley's Girl For Sure
Here you go Jonna
Citrus trifoliata L. var. monstrosa T.
Feb 14, 2014 2:55 PM CST
Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe
Thank you Mindy Thumbs up I'm really looking forward to grow it. I know it will take many years to set fruit, but I will be patient.
Feb 14, 2014 3:42 PM CST
Name: Danita
GA Zone 7b/8
I kept getting sick, so I'm afraid I was one of those naughty tardy piggies (but not the latest and I did stay in touch.) Apologies to all for that! *Blush*

However, when I suggested ending the swap a little earlier it wasn't to prevent tardy piggies, but to make it easier on all the piggies at Christmas time. A lot of people are busy shopping for presents, wrapping presents, decorating, visiting family, going to parties, cleaning house for company, baking, etc. in the weeks before Christmas. Then we crazy gardeners choose to add seed packaging and shipping to the chaos! Hilarious! I would think that ending the swap even a week and a half earlier, say December 6th, might help some people out. If a week was given to finish packing seed then boxes would be mailed by the 13th. That way people would still have a week and a half before Christmas. Unless that schedule would cause a hardship for you, Ella. Anyway, just a thought.... just ignore me if it's not a good thought. ^_^
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Feb 14, 2014 4:08 PM CST
Name: Patti
Eagle Point, OR
People can finish up their stuff early and many of the long haulers do that but not sure ending the swap early will stop some folks from waiting to get their seeds packed. If it helps people to end early in order to get their seeds done I would encourage them to do that. Seeds were suppose to have been sent by Dec. 20 and many didn't get them out for several weeks after that date. I understand that things happen and there will always be the weather to deal with but I think that we can all try harder to follow the simple rules that Ella requires of us. Smiling
Just my 2 cents. Whistling
Feb 14, 2014 6:23 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
Danita... I will take your idea under consideration, but even when I have had it scheduled from Nov first to Dec 1, I still got boxes in Jan, which I was cool with.
The main problem with cutting short like that is we still have folks harvesting and we have folks that are all gone for the Thanksgiving Holidays and I know some folks are busy with Christmas and so I allow for the extra time for folks to get stuff here, and I not gonna send any packages out til after the first of the year. My goal is always when possible to have things out by the 7th through 14 of January. Sometimes we hit it, sometimes we a bit off.

This year we had bad storms and bad weather way earlier than anybody could have predicted and if weather bad, will always have folks wait and stay safe. Anybody sick, anybody with family emergencies, anybody that I know in bad weather conditions, I have no problem with dealing with that so long as I know what is going on.

Heck if poor Rising Creek with all her emergencies would have been tied up another two or three weeks believe me I would have held all the piggies up til she was back in the game.

If I tell people it ok to wait and take your time, it one thing, but when I send cmails and am totally ignored, well that just don't go over to well with me. I figure if me and my admid team can spend a couple of months day in and night everyday and we send ya cmail to ask what happening that person should be courteous enough to answer back.

Yes, I host the swap, but it not my seeds. The seeds belong to the piggies and I like to keep everybody updated all along the way, hey some folks had emergencies, some was sick, major flu went around and than when it was time for me to do my thing, even I had emergencies here. Things happen, that life and who knows what emergencies we will have next year, so many folks just hit all at once this year with emergencies, just glad that they all ok and family members ok and evrybody safe and sound. All I ask is folks stay in touch so I can keep everybody informed and up to date and have courtesy towards their fellow piggies.

Mindy... Glad ya found the name for Jonna. I knew it was a mouthful to say.

Jonna. Hopefully in a few years you'll get to see the first fruit of your seedling. Nothing like watching baby fruit and tree seedling grow up and produce that very first fruit. What heartbreaking is when you see it develop and you watch it like a hawk and anticipate the day when you can pick it and some critter done ran off with it first. Grumbling Grumbling Than you have wait another whole year before you have a chance at trying to beat the critters to the fruit again. Hilarious!

Feb 14, 2014 6:59 PM CST
Name: Julianna
Victoria, BC USDA Zone 8
I'm one of the people who is busy harvesting, canning, freezing, drying until the end of November. I plan for getting all of my gardening chores done by American Thanksgiving, but it doesn't always work that way. I have a 2 week window after Halloween for getting all of the seeds that I will offer for this swap and others all packaged up and labelled. I add to this lot as the swap goes on, but I always have my initial offerings pre-packaged and ready to go. I get large and small ziplocs at Dollarama and I have a couple packs of labels that I use for each piggy's trough. I use a large rectangular tupperware to hold all of the large ziploc troughs in place and as each piggy oinks, I make troughs and add seed packs. The only time during this swap when I was a little busy with gathering seed was when I decided to offer extra basils and amaranths that I hadn't pre-threshed. I personally don't like sending out seed with chaff in it, so during a few Duck Dynasty marathons, I had what I needed. By the time I closed my list, everyone's troughs were already filled and all I had to do at that point was find a suitable sturdy box, figure out the postage, and get it in the mail. This system works very well for me, but during that month, I didn't have a lot going on besides a fair amount of baking. Mom arrived here after the box was in the mail and I planned it that way. Christmas for us is all home-made and centers around church activities so I don't really spend much time shopping for gifts. That eliminates a lot of stress right there. It's very simple, just family, lots of food, lots of singing, lots of prayer and fellowship.
Grazie a tutti,
Feb 14, 2014 7:10 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
Patrob... My oh my your Scarlet Orbit is one pretty Daylily. Had to find out who the hybridizer was. Gates 1984 27" Height Early Season 6"Bloom Fragrant Semi evergreen. Honorable Mention 1987. Award of Merit 1991 ...

Don't ya just love the older ones. I read where some sies said it a rebloomer. I plant rebloomers here but never have yet had one to do it. Think because our temps and humidity so high that they all go into summer dormancy and that it on the blooms for the year. Is it a good clumper?
Feb 14, 2014 7:20 PM CST
Name: Patricia
Central TX 7b/8a
I love nearly all daylilies, and the older ones have been much hardier for me than many of the newer, fancier ones. Scarlet Orbit has been a good grower, but I'm not sure it survived last summer when I was not able to water at all for weeks. It holds the red better than some of my others.
Feb 14, 2014 10:08 PM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
I am loving my seed starters handbook this year. Had to reread 3 times to make sure I was reading it right but yup said cucumbers germinate best at 90F so I set it on 7 (setting just under high) on my heating pad (in a tin tray with a dome over it) 3 days later every seed I planted in every pot is germinated. Caught me off guard and they are a little leggy so hoping they still do ok. Got my maters in there now to germ at 80F. Hurray!
Feb 15, 2014 7:55 AM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
Hurray! Hurray!

I was doing some vermiculite sowing a little over a week ago and found a package of Sultan cucumber seeds that were old so I stuck them in too. I don't know what I was thinking because the pots all went OUTSIDE!!! Horrors!!! When I checked them and saw that I brought it inside but I don't know if it will do anything or not.

I'm doing tomatoes and replacement peppers today.
Feb 15, 2014 9:15 AM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
if the seeds are still there and you up their temp they should do fine. The book said if they are too cold for too long the seeds will just rot away.
Feb 15, 2014 9:49 AM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
Here is my little heat set up. I know the pic is blurred a bit but you get the idea lol

Thumb of 2014-02-15/Mistirose/844e64
Feb 15, 2014 11:10 AM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
Nice set up.

I know they may still make it because the seeds did not rot. Fingers crossed!
Feb 15, 2014 12:23 PM CST
Name: Sandy
Texas 9b
I agree with you Ella as far as us getting our seeds off to you as it does hold your life up to have to deal with the delay in getting things done and over with. It isn't fair to hold you up from going back to normal.

As for the Postal Service not sure it would have been different as they are really getting bad. My package says it is out for delivery today.

Your a Fantastic Piggy Momma and please don't feel bad or guilty as you did your part and the Post office dropped the ball. I hope everyones shows up. Even though I want to plant the seeds I got I am more than happy to forward my box unopened to anyone who doesn't get their's. There should be seeds they wanted but if not maybe they can trade for what they do want. Also the majority of what I offered I still have (I am sure enough) to receive requests if anyone doesn't get their package.

Do you know how many are still out and not accounted for?
Feb 15, 2014 1:51 PM CST
Name: aka GardenQuilts
Facebook, NGA
and the beloved Winston the pug
Are you sure you want to HOST the seed swap after all of the troubles this year? Between late piggies and lost packages, you really had a time of it this year! thank you so much for doing this for us.

I would like to join the 2014 swap if I am allowed. Hopefully, I will have seeds from the first year in my new garden!!!! My wintersown seeds are getting well stratified this year! They are under the snow somewhere....I have to be careful I don't shovel them off the deck! ( I push the snow off the deck between the slots instead of throwing it and still get sore.) The potting mix, soda bottles, plastic pots for inside, shelf and lights are at the ready ...I am trying the fabulous Farmer's Almanac chart for veggie starting dates - first indoor plants are peppers and eggplant March 10. Since hot and decorative peppers can take longer to germinate according to Ella, they are starting March 1. Now I just have to develop a schedule for the non wintersown flowers...

Closing early worked well for me, so I am going to close my list December 3, 2014. It will also give us plenty of time to add pictures of our plants to Ella's database!!!
Feb 15, 2014 1:59 PM CST
Name: aka GardenQuilts
Facebook, NGA
and the beloved Winston the pug
I had an idea. Like other people, I keep my seed list in an excel (Microsoft Office) database. One year I tried the Open Office database (forget the name of the individual program. It worked, but I liked some of the features of Excel. If you con't have Microsoft office or an alternative program on your computer, you can use the free one at Open Office whether you use windows or Linux. You can save Open Office databases in excel format to be compatible). Sorry to run on, just helping [possible computer newbies save some money.

My idea is putting my sown seed database, or at least the plants that germinate, online as a google doc or other online database. If more than one of us do that, it would be easier to add new plants to our own databases - we could cut and past the info instead of typing it in. Does that make sense? We could still use our own formats.

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