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ImageAndi
Feb 15, 2014 2:00 PM CST
Name: aka GardenQuilts
Facebook, NGA
and the beloved Winston the pug
Does anyone have a favorite link for instructions to make paper pots in case I run out of little plastic ones? Do they fall apart easily? How do you water the paper pots without ending up with a pile of mud?
ImageAndi
Feb 15, 2014 2:11 PM CST
Name: aka GardenQuilts
Facebook, NGA
and the beloved Winston the pug
I noticed some people had click-able links by plant names in their databases. (I had typed plant names and the full typed out link but that took a lot of room). How do you set it up so that you can click on the plant name and go to the linked page. I want to do that for the next swap.

It is still snowing. The forecast says to expect 2-4". I guess we have 6-7" of new snow. There is so much snow from so many storms it is hard to find a place with just this storm! I would rather play in the snow than shovel, but would feel silly out there by myself. I could go traying like we did at college. You "borrow" a tray from the dining hall and ride it down a snow covered hill. It is a lot of fun with all of your friends in varying states of sobriety. It is not quite the same by yourself. I have three trays and lots of snow, want to come to my house and play in the snow????

I am going to be a good little piggy and clear some snow before playing with my new seeds. I'll take some more pictures also. I take pictures on how high the snow is and it snows more and gets higher!
ImageDanita
Feb 15, 2014 2:21 PM CST
Name: Danita
GA Zone 7b/8
Andi,
http://cubits.org/special/pages/bbcode.php
See 10th entry for making "A clickable word."
Imageilovejesus99
Feb 15, 2014 2:50 PM CST
Name: Sandy
Texas 9b
Andi when you find a web page of the plant you would like to use you copy it from the address bar and paste it here. It automatically makes it a link. For instance http://cubits.org/ellasgarden/thread/view/77939/?offset=220
ImageAndi
Feb 15, 2014 3:08 PM CST
Name: aka GardenQuilts
Facebook, NGA
and the beloved Winston the pug
Thank you Danita and ilovejesus. I'll edit my have seeds.
Imageilovejesus99
Feb 15, 2014 3:45 PM CST
Name: Sandy
Texas 9b
I tip my hat to you. Lovey dubby Group hug
Imagestarlight1153
Feb 15, 2014 4:38 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Andi... If you go to the 2014 database, if you already have a spot, click entry. The very last item is your all to keep your notes. It is an unending paragraph, so you can put all your germination records in there, plus anything else you want. Usually, I keep little notes , like how I sowed so many seeds a certain way and i that doesn;t work, than I go back to my notes and put no germination and the second, third and however many tries it takes til I do finally get germination.
ImageAndi
Feb 15, 2014 5:42 PM CST
Name: aka GardenQuilts
Facebook, NGA
and the beloved Winston the pug
Thanks Ella, that is a good idea for dates and such as well.

I let the crocosmia bulbs soak while I was outside. I have a pot ready for them. I turned on my countertop water distiller for the carnivorous seeds from misti. I have been showing restraint not opening the baggies, yet. I don't mind being snowed in this weekend not that the piggy valentine has arrived!

My caladium were slow to start, so i moved the pot near the downstairs toilet. I know, weird place, but the bathroom is next to the boiler room. It is the hottest room in the house. I keep my house between 60-65'F. The caladium probably want things a bit warmer. I check on them a few times a day. Once the leaves pop up, I will move them.
Imagejoseph
Feb 15, 2014 6:17 PM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity
Andi wrote:Does anyone have a favorite link for instructions to make paper pots in case I run out of little plastic ones? Do they fall apart easily? How do you water the paper pots without ending up with a pile of mud?


When I made paper pots I wrapped about 3 layers of paper around a piece of PVC pipe. They didn't fall apart if I didn't move them. In my arid climate I couldn't keep enough water on them because the paper wicked moisture out of the soil.

Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
Imagejoseph
Feb 15, 2014 6:23 PM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity

Yesterday the snow melted from one of my fields, and the ground was not frozen underneath, so today I started planting. I planted spinach, scallions, radishes, and turnip-rooted parsnips. Also two of the tubers I received from the Hoggy Swap. (Thanks Wildflowers!)

Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
BrendaVR
Feb 15, 2014 8:14 PM CST
Ontario, Canada (zone 6a)
I use a pill bottle to make mine last year....I use about three sheets so it dosent fall apart to fast. Last year they lasted about 4 months before they disintegrated(based on the poor plants that never made it into the garden and sat in the starter pots all summer long) I water from the bottom and don't pick them up because the paper does tear easily when moist. I make the paper about 1.5 as high as the pill bottle, roll the paper around the pill bottle, fold the extra over the bottom and used tape to hold the top edge and bottom in place.
Like this ytube guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6qkqyWvZnA

But this week I bought the"Pot Maker" http://www.leevalley.com/en/garden/page.aspx?p=10566&cat=2,4...
Because I didn't want to use tape this year but they are still not holding together half the time so....I may revert back to the way I was doing it.

I have also seen ideas that use two tubes (Maybe how Joseph does?) where you roll the paper over a larger open ended tube, shove the bottom length of the paper into the hollow tube and use the second, smaller one with a base, to shove inside the larger to crush down the paper inside and form a bottom that should stay put because its all crushed and crinkled together....but I haven't got the right size tubes yet...
ImageMistirose
Feb 15, 2014 8:51 PM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
This one is pretty good Andi http://bonzaiaphrodite.com/2009/03/how-to-make-newspaper-see...
Imageilovejesus99
Feb 15, 2014 8:56 PM CST
Name: Sandy
Texas 9b
look at this one http://allthingsplants.com/ideas/view/ShadyGreenThumb/925/Tu...

or here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8qPAV-LDnM
ImageArleneB
Feb 15, 2014 10:03 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
If you fill the paper pots to the brim the newspaper doesn't wick away the moisture quite as fast. I put mine in a mesh bottom flat and set that inside a regular no holes flat to water. Remove after pots have wicked up the water. We use a Campbell's soup can .
Imagejoseph
Feb 15, 2014 11:57 PM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity

I just fold the sides over to make the bottom. The weight of the soil holds them in place.
Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
Imagestarlight1153
Feb 16, 2014 4:47 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Depending upon what size you need, them cheap paper like dixie bathroom kids water cups the ones for brushing teeth type work good. Newspaper makes my hands itch bad. Can't stand handling it.

If you go to the dollar store you can get 100 cups for a buck. Bigger size is like 50 for a buck. Like the paper ones, do you have to be careful as eventually the bottoms will fall out so I usually scoop the first couple out of the flat with a big serving spoon and than the rest just carefully pick out.

They have the ones that wax coated inside, but haven't tried them yet as not sure how it would affect the plants if the pots get hot and that wax melts into the soil.
Imagechelle
Feb 16, 2014 7:18 AM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
Andi wrote:Does anyone have a favorite link for instructions to make paper pots in case I run out of little plastic ones? Do they fall apart easily? How do you water the paper pots without ending up with a pile of mud?


Mine are made out of cut and taped lunch bags. They're roughly two and half inches across, and about three and a half inches deep. I run the tape strip down across the bottom, too, since I usually leave some of them sitting around too long. This little bit of extra support helps them hold together just a little bit better for removal.

I found that they dry out way too fast if there's much space between them. Now I really pack them into a flat with holes, then place the entire flat in a larger bin to bottom water when they need it. When the tray is heavy with absorbed water, I take it back out and set the next one in.

This picture is from a couple of years ago - I think I actually pack more in each flat now. Smiling

Thumb of 2014-02-16/chelle/486059
Imageilovejesus99
Feb 16, 2014 10:54 AM CST
Name: Sandy
Texas 9b
I just read there is biodegradable masking tape. Maybe you could use that for your pots. I am wondering if they are staying too wet? Have you tried Toilet paper or Paper towel rolls? Also I just did a search and elmers glue is biodegradeable. Maybe that would help if they were completely dry before using.

I would try spraying the newspaper pots lightly and let them dry before use. Maybe that would help. I am going to try my hand with making some. I have never winter sown anything but may try this year.

Ella, I am also allergic to Newpaper ink and get all stuffed up and sneezy. It is awful.
BrendaVR
Feb 16, 2014 11:36 AM CST
Ontario, Canada (zone 6a)
hmmm...I never thought about being allergic to newspaper...I wonder if thats why I went through a whole box of tissue the other day...and I wanted to claw out my eyes... I will have to keep my eyes open for cheep paper cups...

Toilet paper rolls is a good idea. Sturdy enough it would hold up a bit longer.

When I use tape I did use masking tape, it was not advertised as biodegradable but I thought it has to be better than the clear plastic tape!

Wow...looks downright balmy outside my house today! The icicle looks like a waterfall....Off to chip some more snow and ice off the drive :)
Imagestarlight1153
Feb 16, 2014 12:54 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Now, I never thought about using brown paper lunch sacks, but I could cut and tape thinner and that would make for perfect size for starting tree seedlings in. I hate using one gallon pots to try and start a tree seedling in or anything that will put out a 6inch taproot in a matter of a few weeks.

Too me that is alot of soil just being wasted when I have use a one gallon for one nut.

One thing with using toilet or paper towel rolls is if you don't destroy them before hand you can just plant straight into the garden to help repel some nasty critters

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