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Mar 6, 2014 4:02 PM CST
Name: Patricia
Central TX 7b/8a
Ella, the coarse vermiculite from is $24 for a 4 cu ft bag. It comes in a sturdy box, so no holes in the bag. Shipping is high, however. It would have been $15 for one bag, so I got 2 plus the exhaust fan to dilute the shipping charge per item.
Mar 6, 2014 4:04 PM CST
Name: Jill
NW Missouri
Everyone has great stories so far this year! I hope to get started in a couple more weeks. Our snow has finally started to melt and temperatures are warming. Keep up the great sprouting stories! Hurray!
Mar 6, 2014 4:15 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
Arlene... Chelle and BlueSpiral have germinated them. Chelle very successfully. Found a post with pics of her babies.

Maybe she remembers how she did them. Not sure if Blue has power or not. Know the weather still as rotten as can be up her way.

Danita... Thank you very much. You had me worried with your wondering if your mother plant made it or not. had to run out in the cold and rain and see if mine had any leaves on it. Guess I didn't notice that it supposed to be an evergreen. Checked and breathed a sigh of relief. Had a few tiny leaves on it so I know it not dead. Ya! Hurray! Especially after babying them seedlings. Right before winter I had transplanted them into a one gallon pot and with maybe all being crammed together it helped protect them some. I know they not out of the woods yet, but I sure am hopeful. Big Grin
Mar 6, 2014 4:17 PM CST
Name: greene
Savannah, Georgia, USA
There is a thread for this plant on All Things Plants

Sorry, we cross posted.
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Mar 6, 2014 4:23 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
Thanks Patrob. Big Grin That not really bad on the shipping nor the price. Cost ten bucks in gas to run to town and back. Actually more now that gas prices have skyrocketed again. Grumbling

Appreciate it. Good to know as sometimes it hard to find down here.

Jill... How ya doing on the flooding part. You keeping above the melting snow?
Mar 6, 2014 4:52 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
Hilarious! That cuz we be good Greene. Thumbs up

Any of you Southern folks put your beans out yet? Wondering how safe it is to get started on them or if I should wait a while yet.
Mar 6, 2014 4:55 PM CST
Name: Julianna
Victoria, BC USDA Zone 8
Wildflowers, I save seeds of many things, but I know cat grass most likely will never be one of them. We have 4 monsters and they eat it down to nubs. What was your seed source for the Variegated Cat Grass? That photo is likely the best it's ever going to look. I sowed the whole lot of it so there would be a nice little clump for the monsters. Maybe I'll take another photo of the monsters attacking it this weekend! Hilarious!
Grazie a tutti,
Mar 6, 2014 5:07 PM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
Home Depot shipped vermiculite to my door...for free. Minimum purchase for the free shipping was reasonable. I got two bags and winter sowed 200 containers.

I did two separate batches of the P. barbatus last year. One batch I did in moist paper in a baggy on top of the water heater, then planted. The other batch I just sowed under cover once it was warm enough. Both ways produced a lot of sprouts.

Metromix is what I started out with. It's my fail-safe. Smiling It's difficult to find it locally, but once they're open Jone's Greenhouse in 'Busco carries it (about $18.00 for a huge bag), and Fashion Farm in Ligonier usually carries it, too. You may have to make your own mix for now, but if you can get some Metromix this year you'll be all set for next winter/spring.
I can't use peat pots either; they're either bone dry, or sopping wet.

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Mar 6, 2014 5:26 PM CST
Name: Alana
I had to wait until I got home today to see if my Orlaya was up. Here is my patch for comparison, and an individual I pulled out.
Thumb of 2014-03-06/poisondartfrog/4f353c

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Mar 6, 2014 5:38 PM CST
Name: Alana
And here is a little 'New Big Dwarf' from seeds I got from NisiNJ. He has chubby little true leaves. Thumb of 2014-03-06/poisondartfrog/407a72
Mar 6, 2014 5:43 PM CST
Name: Julianna
Victoria, BC USDA Zone 8
Aw, I love dwarf tomato babies!!
Grazie a tutti,
Mar 6, 2014 7:35 PM CST
Name: Dianne
Sacramento, CA, zone 9a
Alana - that sure looks like what I have. I do NOT need that many orlayas. Note to self - let ONE flower go to seed. Cut all others.

One bit of hope is that the O grandiflora seedling has a tinge of purple in the stalks, while the seedlings I have are are quite green..........
Mar 6, 2014 10:37 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
I am able to purchase 4 cu. of either coarse or fine vermiculite at our local feed store for about $25. Ella, if I ever make it down that way I'll bring you one! Smiling

Funny, I found the thread on ATP as well! And I actually had posted in it! Hilarious!

The dwarfs I grew last year were very stocky and full. Could barely see the tomatoes on it.
Mar 7, 2014 8:27 AM CST
Name: Christine
Northeast Texas, Zone 7b
Thank you for the vermiculite source Chelle (I like when they have free shipping Big Grin ) and Arlene - the coop was the only place in town I didn't try looking.

Sorelina, the source for the variegated cat grass is Baker's Creek Heirloom Seed Co., listed under 'grains'. They gave a good amount of seed in the package.
FAITH over fear!

Mar 7, 2014 10:08 AM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
wildflowers wrote:Thank you for the vermiculite source Chelle (I like when they have free shipping Big Grin )

I tip my hat to you.

I used to be able to get it locally, but I've tried several times since last spring and never find it in stock. I just tried again yesterday, but no luck. I doubt I'll order two more bags for this spring, so I guess I'll switch mediums now that the winter sowing is pretty much done.

Mar 7, 2014 11:00 AM CST
Name: Julianna
Victoria, BC USDA Zone 8
Thanks, Wildflowers! There was a vendor at the last Seedy Saturday who had Baker Creek Seeds. I should have looked closer to see if he had any of that. Hopefully, I can pick some up in the next weeks. Ordering from Baker Creek and Seed Savers has high shipping unless I order a lot.
Grazie a tutti,
Mar 7, 2014 11:24 AM CST
Name: greene
Savannah, Georgia, USA
For the variegated cat grass, also try Harris Seed company, Rochester, New York or Territorial Seed Company in Oregon.
Mar 7, 2014 11:38 AM CST
Name: aka GardenQuilts
Facebook, NGA
and the beloved Winston the pug
I'm fighting the "can't believe it is still winter' blues also Sorellina. What a year this has been.

My goal is to start my indoor seeds on Monday march 10 as per the farmer's almanac. I am expecting a late spring and don't have a lot of room for plant shelves.

I got white aphids or something on my overwintering cannas, so I am repotting them in fresh, sterile soil with some systemic insecticide. I may lift them next winter, depends if they flower earlier if overwintered in pots. I like the tropical foliage.

My wintersown seeds are buried in the snow. They are getting well stratified if nothing else. I plan to late winter/early spring sow some 4 o'clocks and other seeds. I got excellent germination with them this way before.

Who knows when the snow will melt this year. What an unusual year to be a gardener! I am tempted to pack it up and head south!
Mar 7, 2014 2:23 PM CST
Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe
Still having the mildest winter ever here. Last night we had the hardest frost of this winter -6°C (usually we get at least - 15°C and even more) , so some plants that where 'evergreen' here now got some frost damage. Really don't know how to handle those plants, because most plants usually 'die' in winter and come up in spring again.
The soil in my garden is still very wet and weeds are growing very well Angry My garden is green, not only from the plants that stayed evergreen (but small) , but mainly from weed. Thumbs down
Due to the mild winter, I have germination in about 25 containers already.
Mar 7, 2014 2:38 PM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana

I think the evergreen plants will likely just shed the leaves/parts that got damaged and grow new ones. Smiling

Some of my winter sown containers seem so light and dry in the vermiculite! Do you think it's just because they're still frozen? If I mist with water a bit of the top vermiculite will scatter. Do I need to mist all of these?

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