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| Joseph.... Stunning pic of the red pea pod. Looks like a masterpiece painting. How's it taste or haven't you tried it yet? Is the fruit red too? I think that would be neat to see a row or two of red pea pods. Wild... Glad ya finally got some peas growed. Fresh from the garden sure does taste different doesn't it.  Misti... If your pea plants are badly coated, even several milk treatments may not be able to stop it. I know your plants are still producing, but number of pods and peas per pod will go down drastically as the mildew spreads. You might just want to consider bagging the plants and than pulling them up and destroying them especially if you have other plants like your cukes and squash and stuff going. Erysiphe polygoni can spread and it won't take but a good wind or spores being spread from water to infect the rest of your crop. Usually Erysiphe comes when temps are starting to get high and you have a lot of moisture and humidity in the air. If it was me, I would bag, pull destroy and replant in a different area for fall. Peas are fast growers and you'll probably get a bigger crop once the temps cool. I know for my area, peas have to be planted in Feb for them to grow and get a crop before the heat burns em up. No peas this year here because of the unreal cold and than flooding rains. |
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I haven't tasted the red-podded peas yet, or opened them when they are immature to see if the seeds are red. I ate some of the green snow peas and green sugar snap peas last year. They definitely tasted like peas!!! There were some purple seeds among the mature seeds last fall. Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse |
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well crap, how do I keep my other plants from getting it? I get this every year and needs to stop. I have a fungicide for my roses but hate to use chems on my garden. any help would be greatly appreciated and I will take them down as gently as I can tonight Star. They are on a long stretch of fence type trellis not easy to bag.  |
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| Mistirose: Come on out to the desert. Guaranteed to be 99.9% free of powdery mildew. Powdery mildew is everywhere in hot/damp environments. Nothing can be done to keep it away from the other plants, they already have it, and just haven't succumbed yet. Prevention for already growing plants is to keep them as dry as possible... If you have to irrigate, water only the ground, not the leaves. Water in the mornings rather than at night. Increase airflow around the plants so that things dry out quicker. Don't keep things wet by applying mulch. Perhaps use rocks as mulch. Set plants further apart so that airflow is improved. Grow under an awning so that rain doesn't fall directly on the plants. Grow on trellises to keep leaves further away from the dampness of the ground. Etc... Longer term... Grow varieties that are less susceptible to powdery mildew. Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse |
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ugh I really dont wanna loose my squash plants again this year. I have spread out to 3 diff beds so maybe I will be lucky this year. I have cucumbers on a trellis. Thanks for the info Joseph.  |
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Joseph... Well if we all moved to the desert, at least you'd have plenty of harvesting help and we's all eat the leftovers for sure.   Misti... Squash especially. Not sure how big your plants are, but I would put some distance between them for air circulation and follow what Joseph said. That all about what you can do. You might want to t treat your squash and other veggies once a week with the milk solution. It might help with the prevention of further outbreaks. I would make it weak. A 1:10 solution (1 being the milk) and test it on a couple of plants first if you have enough of each type to make sure the solution won't burn your plants , not knowing your area. It always amazes me that folks down here grow Crepe Myrtle trees and hack them back so they so busy you can't even get your hand threw the leaves and they always get mildew and everything around them. Makes the trees look crudy as can be. |
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| yea I had read you never cut your crape myrtle back. I just prune the lower stems off mine, so far they have no issues. Just squash and peas have been getting it. I will try some of the prevention recipe and see how they do. The peas have been pulled too. Thanks all! |
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| My mother has been growing peas (snow peas, and then later the snap peas) for years and once they are past their prime and are weakened, they must be more susceptible to diseases like powdery mildew because they succumb to it every year. Then she pulls them out and put in the long beans. Kind of like my dahlias when they are tired at the end of summer - they get powdery mildewed too and it is time to cut them way back. I don't know who started the tradition of hacking crape myrtles every year. They do the same thing here in California. We have two in front of our house which was shaped well when we moved here. We only prune ours periodically when the branches get too big - and they are long overdue for a trimming.  |
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| Soils... How pretty! Now that the way a Crepe should look. They make swing trees for kids too when left to grow naturally. The trunks are so beautiful too as they start to mature. |
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| yes beautiful pic Soils! that makes sense about them getting that at the end of their time. OK I feel a little better. So should I plant some green beans or something then? Is it not too late for me to plant them here? |
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| Misti, I have sown dwarf butternut squash as late as the middle of July here and harvested squash before frost, so I think any bean with a maturity date plus 2 weeks that fits between now and your first Autumn frost would work, too - provided you can adequately water them. In zone 7, there are many annual flowers, herbs and vegies that can still be sown (I don't have a list right now). On May 20, in milk jugs with just the handle left above the midline, I "summer-sowed" about 50 annual flowers, 30 of which have germinated. The results will be interesting, to say the least, but having missed earlier chances to sow anything and with a possible surgery coming up later this summer, I'm just glad I had this chance to sow something. So, if anyone else got snafoo-ed in the seed sowing department, you can still do it at least in my zone or warmer. Andi, how has your late sowing been going? My religion is simple. My religion is kindness. Dalai Lama |
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So far no planting snafus for me, if you don't count lost radish seeds... But I'm feeling a snafu coming on. My genetics are viking, so my body really really dislikes the hot sun that we get around here... And it is so hot right now, and so sunny that I'm not feeling like getting out into the garden. This type of weather is about 2-3 weeks early this year. It usually arrives after I am done planting. I usually don't start my summer schedule (in the garden before sunrise) until July. Grumble-Whine. I am really not a morning person, but I suppose that I'll give in to my genetics and head for the garden while it's still dark. Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse |
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| Good to know Blue! thank you! mb I will plant me some more beans this weekend then |
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joseph wrote:  A few more cloudy days here and there would help immensely! And while I'm dreaming...the inclusion of a nice breeze in the cooler morning hours to blow away the skeeters would also be appreciated. I'm still wearing two layers of clothing outdoors...in self defense!Heading out there now to get something done before the rest of the family gets up for the day.  Hope everyone has a great day! |
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| Another good market day even though we didn't have much. Not enough beets, carrots, turnips to sell bunches so we made four 'roasting kix' bunches with a bit of each, an onion and two asparagus. Sold them all! Flowers sold very well today! But last two weeks my feet hurt so I need to sit down a bit while at there. Yesterday I sent DH to local feed storre for rattlesnake beans. They don't have so they had to order but they talked him into Kentucky wonders. Anyone grow these before? Are they tough beans? I want him to take the seeds back when he picks up the others. |
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| well looks like my praying mantis egg case hatched, I'm seeing the tiniest baby manti I have ever seen lol. Found another case on the wooden trellis of my rose |
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| We have fooled ya weather going on here. Supposed to have rain showers everyday a good chance. Ya right. Not my area. If you water than it rains, don't because it thunders and lightening like crazy and it won't. Soon as it starts getting light I am out and working. Love the cool morning time to get stuff done. When it hits 90 and above during afternoon and humidity so high your sweat starts to sweat it nap time til about 4 than it back outside til dark. 85 during day is ok and feels good and I can handle but when it hits them 90's and humidity almost 100% I wilt as bad as my plants do. We have a new person joining us and will be joining the piggy swap. Her name is Shirley777. She was finally able to get registered and online here. Welcome Shirley. !!!!!! Don't be shy. Feel free to chat. Ask questions or toss out feelings and thoughts. Got a real good bunch of friendly folks here so make yourself to home. We'll get ya set up with a database too for the swap so you can start practicing a bit. Don't worry about making mistakes. We all do, me included. Which reminds me, folks start thinking about this years swap and inviting your friends from other sites and getting them to start saving or shopping for some seed. Arlene.. Glad you had a good day at market. Ours was so slow, we all could have stayed home. Too much happening around town. Several programs benefiting feeding hungry children during the summer now that school out and a few other major events going on. Kentucky Wonder is a hardy bean. They a very popular bean and one most folks plant all down around here. They a fairly good producer too. Not too many problems with them either. If you have the room, I would go ahead and plant them. They will sell well for you at the market. Misti... Awwwwwwwww. They so cute when they tiny. Hope they all make it to adult hood. I had something that had laid about 60 eggs on one of my Sacred Lotus Banana leaves and I was watching it to see if it was going to hatch Lady bugs or flea beetles and overnight something came and munched every egg up. They did a bit of damage to the leaf trying to munch the eggs off, now I have no idea what it was. Oh... Has anybody ever seen a cuke plant with variegated leaves before? I haven't til now. Got a misfit seed from the package it seems. Hope it continues to variegate. If it does will be interesting to see what the cukes turn out to be. |
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| Hello Shirley777, and welcome. Starlight/Ella, This lady also had a variegated leaf cucumber pop up. http://endahmurniyati.blogspot.com/2013/10/plant-of-week.htm... |
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| Welcome Shirley 777! I don't remember who sent me the Golden Rain tree seeds, but I now have 3 little 5 inch Golden Rain trees! Yippeeee - and thank you ever so much! |
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