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Imagecrittergarden
Aug 29, 2014 5:29 AM CST
SCbuttercup wrote: I don't think I've ever not liked a vegetable as long as it wasn't overcooked..it's all in the preparation.


Me, too.
Mother used to serve slimy okra and I thought I hated it until someone else's mom served it to me fried with tomatoes in cornmeal.
And there was a lways a jar of nasty slimy asparagus around that I wouldn't go near.
Other than that, I love them all and I like most of them just raw!
Imagestarlight1153
Aug 29, 2014 9:25 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
SCButter .... That sounds yummy with that topping. Your right, would taste and be alot more heathier than just spagetti sauce.

Oh... Sticking tongue out Asparagus. Love the stuff and the slimier the better. I can swallow a whole can of smily, soft asparagus tips in a matter of seconds.

Okra I like to cook and eat like stuffed peppers if the pods are big enough or it cut up into a nice veggie soup. Once in a while I will eat it fried, but I just don't like eating so much grease. Seems with fried that all you really eating is breading and oil.



Imagecrittergarden
Aug 29, 2014 2:07 PM CST
ew - on the asparagus!
I LOVE asparagus raw. Snap it off and pop it in my mouth, much like I do with cherry tomatoes!

Okra, I rarely have fried - don't cook with grease at home - but I have discovered the canned stuff isn't slimy and I use it in soups and stuff. GUMBO just ain't GUMBO without okra! I haven't tried growing it yet, but that's on my list.
Imagegreene
Aug 30, 2014 1:55 PM CST
Name: greene
Savannah, Georgia, USA
I can eat most vegetables but one I have a problem with is Brusell Sprouts - dang, I can't even spell it right - oh, I remember, Brussels Sprouts.

How does everyone cook these to make them palatable? Keep in mind I love all kinds of cole crops like broccoli, cabbage, cauliflower, kale, just haven't liked any Brussel Sprout I have ever eaten in the past. What's the trick?
ImageMistirose
Aug 30, 2014 3:05 PM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
We steam them or boil them and then add butter.
Imagewildflowers
Aug 30, 2014 5:11 PM CST
Name: Christine
Northeast Texas, Zone 7b
Yum love them!! My most favorite way to prepare and eat Brussell's sprouts is pan braised in a little butter-olive oil mix. Cut them in half or fourths (depending on size) brown in a pan, add lid for a few minutes until they start to brown, then add a splash of white wine or chicken stock, or both. Turn heat down to med/low and put the lid back on, let them braise for about ten minutes. Sometimes I'll add pine nuts and/or garlic the last couple of minutes to get toasty. They are very delicious this way, it brings out the nutty flavor.

I didn't like them, or most other vegetables as a child but I think that's because in those days, they tended to overcook everything!! Yuck.

I just wish I could grow them!! I got close this spring. They were small and hubby said they didn't have much flavor. May try again.

FAITH over fear!

ImageMistirose
Aug 30, 2014 5:16 PM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
yea I had trouble growing mine in the spring too Christine, my Neil Sperry Texas Gardening book says its really a waste of time in the spring. You don't have enough time and they taste better after the first frost. I will be revamping my garden this fall or I would have already started them.
Imagewildflowers
Aug 30, 2014 5:25 PM CST
Name: Christine
Northeast Texas, Zone 7b
Well, misti, I say this spring but that's when I harvested them. They were actually overwintered, started the spring before. Yes, they grew an entire year before they put out any sprouts. It's just too hot here, I guess. We got a break with a longer than usual past winter and cooler than usual spring. Shrug!

FAITH over fear!

ImageMistirose
Aug 30, 2014 5:31 PM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
hmm interesting, I would love to try them here in the fall but my garden will be all tore up to clear out all the grass that keeps growing up through it and to rearrange them a bit too.
Imagecrittergarden
Aug 30, 2014 6:03 PM CST
Greene - Is the problem the texture?
Because they taste pretty much like cabbage to me.

I have heard that you should cut an X into the hard circular part where they were attached to the stem so that they will cook through.
I have also halved or quartered them lengthwise when looks didn't matter so much.
Usually I just steam them OR throw then into a soup.
Lots of people grew up eating them with vinegar on them but I never tried that.
AS you can see from the above comments, most people like them in butter or oil.
ANY way you do them, cut through that thick part somehow so they cook through.

Maybe try them in place of cabbage in a recipe you already like and see what difference (if any) they make.
SCbuttercup
Aug 30, 2014 8:51 PM CST
Name: Judy
Simpsonville , SC
Here is a great brussels sprouts recipe:
Slice each sprout thinly into about3-4 slices. Roast on oiled baking sheet with a bit of oil sprayed on top and a bit of salt and pepper. Roast til it's blackened. Delicious.
Imagecrittergarden
Aug 31, 2014 6:39 AM CST
ooo, blackened. I LIKE blackened!
and caramelized....
I'll have to try that one!
Imagejoseph
Aug 31, 2014 10:48 AM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity
I have finished harvesting the "Earliest Dry Bean Landrace". I expect to harvest the "Short Seaon Dry Bean Landrace" in a few weeks.

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The Dahlias seem like they are coming along nicely.

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I had fun at the farmer's market this week. Been a lot of work to be able to take okra. I'm already harvesting the pumpkins and winter squash. Frost expected in 1 to 3 weeks so it was a great week to be a farmer.

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Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
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Imagecrittergarden
Aug 31, 2014 6:42 PM CST
Hurray!
Imagewildflowers
Sep 1, 2014 7:13 AM CST
Name: Christine
Northeast Texas, Zone 7b
Joseph! Thumbs up Boy does that look inviting!! Wish we had a grower like you around this town!
FAITH over fear!

Imagestarlight1153
Sep 1, 2014 7:41 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Drooling That's not a drool for something good, that is a drool for where I am just a puddle of mush. I love the heat and can take alot of it, but it finally getting the better of me. I am so tired of the body being hot. Makes my mind mush too. Heck it so hot you could probably put eggs on my stomach and fry them. Body can't even get any rest cuz your taking quickie showers to try and cool down in the middle of the night.

Oh I keep forgetting to tell ya. I was watching tv and couldn't believe what was on the news. Now I have seen folks pick seeds here and there from other folks plants or from stores. I have seen folks help themselves to a pinch of a plant here and there and have even had whole plants disappear from my yard along with other folks, but never, never have I seen or heard of this...

The tv showed two women caught on camera stealing somebody's newly laid grass. They just started rolling the grass up and loading into their vechile and it even showed them stopping for a few to take a cig break before going back to rolling and loading the grass. It was unreal to see. Takes plant thievery to a whole new level. Wish they would have shown the owners looks when they came out to find their new lawn gone. Haven't heard if they caught them or not. Takes all kinds of folks I guess.

Joseph.... Wow! You really got a good crop going on this year. Table and veggies sure are looking good. Your Dahlias looking beautiful too. If you have some ice water you could take a few bouquets to market to sell too.

If we don't get some cool temps here in the next few weeks there won't be any cool crops going in this year.

I wanna dive into that box of beans. Looking good. Lots of gas in that box too. Hilarious!

I hated brussell sprouts as a kid. Now I like them if they cooked well done. I like mine boiled in water til they soft all the way threw and than smothered in butter and salt.

CritterG... Haven't heard about making an X before but will give it a try. Makes a bunch of sense especially since that the part that always seem harder to chew and swallow.

Has anybody started sowing seed for fall perennials yet for winter sowing or is it too early for that yet? I been looking through some of my seed trying to decide what to try and maybe start for this fall, that is if fall ever comes, but kinda scared after all the loss of last winter. Still trying to clean up the pot getto areas. Anybody else gonna do some winter sowing this year?

My quinny finally has moved. I waited til she was out hunting bugs and got that egg. I kinda felt bad taking it, but the omelet it made was pretty good Whistling Whistling Big Grin .

Imagejoseph
Sep 1, 2014 11:58 AM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity
Ice water? Sheesh... I've been wearing my coat to the farmer's market. The garden year is winding down for me. Frost hard enough to kill the okra and squash is expected within 1 to 2 weeks. I'm still refusing to turn on the heater in the house. Been running it in the jeep.

Wintersowing? Hmmm. I'm still waiting to see if I'll get any garlic seeds.

Slow year for tomatoes here also. This year will go down in my gardening memories as The Year of the Grape. I picked lots of Interlaken grapes for 3 weeks already, and there are more to be picked. And next week I start harvesting the Himrod grapes. Both are green seedless. I love it that I have fields at different elevations. It spreads the harvest out because the lower fields are warmer and ripen fruit quicker. The Concord grapes are coming right along. I planted 3 new varieties of grape vine this year... I think I'll expand the vineyard even more. Around here grapes are a very low maintenance crop that is easy to grow without -cides. I have one grape vine that is huge, but it hardly produces any grapes. I suppose that I should chop it out and start over, or graft other varieties onto it.

Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
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Imagestarlight1153
Sep 3, 2014 7:17 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Nothing like starting the morning out with a good scream. Great way to get the blood pumping that is if the heart doesn't go into shock first. Had to run to corner store to get some more sugar. So hot here that the hummers are drinking a feeder full of sugar water a day and now even a few bees are starting to raid the hummer feeder for water. Why was I screaming? Oh ya..... I opened vechile door jumped in, turned on ignition went to go to put foot on brake before putting in gear and felt something slither over my foot. I looked down and all I saw was tail.

Man I screamed, opened car door and bout hurt myself trying to get out. All I could think of was baby snake. When I picked myself up and carefully looked into vechile, there sitting on the cushion on my seat was a baby lizard looking at me like I had lost my mind and he was like telling me, " Well what's the hold up lady, get in I'll drive."

I tell ya, my old ticker sure don't need surprises like that so early in the morning. He didn't get to go for a ride. Since I knew he didn't have a drivers license I grabbed the cushion and put him out back into the yard. Told him to hitch a ride with somebody else.

Doors all shut, windows all shut and still critters manage to get into car. Worst I hate is when driving and next thing ya know you have a spider hanging down from visor looking at you or one on the wheel right where you want to place your hands.

Joseph... Be glad to send you some heat if I could. 103F with humidity yesterday. Another hot one of the same today. Saw your box of grapes. Awesome crop you have this year. Lots of jelly making I envision. Of course you could always make you a little wine to stay warm with. Hilarious! Do you take and root your own cuttings and than graft or did you bring in established vines? Are you using the "T" method too stake them? What are grapes going for out your way? Corner store was selling them for $3.98 a pound. I walked on by and got some Walmart. Theirs were $1.89 a pound.

I can't even harvest an of the muscadines I have here. Too many squirrels. They raid and munch before you even have a chance to get one yourself. Some days I do get tired of feeding the critters. Wouldn't be so bad if they would share, but nope they got to be pigs and hog all the fruits. Glare



Imagejoseph
Sep 3, 2014 7:59 AM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity
I bought new cultivars of grapes at the nursery. You know me, always trying to increase the genetic diversity, even if I'm growing seedless clones... I've tried to grow grape cuttings, but it's so dry here that it's hard to keep them watered, and the first year or two they don't compete well with the weeds. I've gotten a few to grow from time to time, but I give them away. The most successful method of propagating grapes for me has been digging up the canes that touch the ground and send down roots. I have a plan to grow them in pots and put a pan of shallow water under the pots. I bet they'd root good like that. Last spring I rooted some in a jar of water also containing a couple of willow sticks. That worked well for me.

I grow the grapes in approximately the T method... In one field the grape trunks grow on a single wire trellis. The trellis is about 2 feet away from a fence. In another field the grapes grow directly on the fence. The grapes in one field had not been pruned for about 20 years before I started taking care of them, so I'm gradually working them towards the T method. There are trees in the one vineyard, so the vines climb the trees and spread all over everywhere. I cut them back every year, but they are more than 30 years old so have strong root systems and lots of vigor.

I love my climate. It seems like near perfect growing conditions. I don't have to worry about the bugs, molds, slimes and viruses that are so prevalent elsewhere.

I don't pay much attention to what prices grocery stores ask for fresh produce. What I am selling is not the same product so it's hard to make valid comparisons. And the use of scales around here is so over-regulated that there is no way that I would weigh produce... So I sell a green pint basket of grapes for $1. They contain about 1/2 to 2/3 pound. And a peck (the cardboard boxes) for $9.

Birds peck the top of the bunches of grapes, and then they ferment, and then I pick them, and then because I can't take pecked grapes to market, and because I hate to throw away perfectly good food I eat the fermenting grapes. No wonder I am so happy when I pick grapes!!!

There was plenty of must this year.


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Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
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Imagecrittergarden
Sep 3, 2014 4:13 PM CST
starlight1153 wrote:when driving and next thing ya know you have a spider hanging down from visor looking at you or one on the wheel right where you want to place your hands.


Yikes - I have had that happen and I HATE it too!

But THIS " 103F with humidity yesterday" might just kill me.

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