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ImageArleneB
Sep 29, 2014 4:56 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
Congrats on the okra! Yeah, probably not too nice showing all those tomatoes going underground! Rolling on the floor laughing
Imagestarlight1153
Sep 29, 2014 5:21 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
I agree Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Good job Joseph!! Glad ya finally got a good crop this year. Just pick them up and toss them this away. I may not have a good pitching arm, but I can catch. Hilarious! What you need is to find somebody around your neighborhood that cans and have them make you some salsa or just plain canned tomatoes. Tell em you'll supply the maters if they do the canning.

On your Okra, did you just keep planting same saved seed or did you cross it with something? Okra... good stuff, especially when stuffed and cooked in tomato sauce. Sticking tongue out

Imagewildflowers
Sep 29, 2014 5:31 PM CST
Name: Christine
Northeast Texas, Zone 7b
Looking good Star and Joseph!! Thumbs up

star, I hope your tomatoes make it too, with a name like Texas Star, they would be very welcome in my garden. Rolling my eyes.

and okra is definitely on my "Grow list" for next year. Hoping to have a "Southern Garden" with okra, black eyed peas, collard greens, and whatever else that would go.. turnips?

FAITH over fear!

Imagejoseph
Sep 29, 2014 8:35 PM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity
The first year I planted okra it was a named commercial cultivar... One plant produced one seed pod. Out of approximately 100 seeds that were planted. Most of the plants didn't get much over ankle high in 100 days.

The second year I planted seeds from the one survivor, and in the next row over I planted landrace okra from a plant breeder in Indiana.

It grew about the same, except that some of the descendents of that lone survivor got about knee high. Also a few plants from the landrace got about knee high. Additionally, one plant survived the first fall frost. I collected a few seed pods from the knee high plants, and especially from the frost survivor.

Last winter I collected more okra seeds including from the hoggy swap, and from a landrace that has been growing in California.

This spring I got tricky with the okra and pre-screened it before planting into the garden. I planted 36 okra seeds of each variety into a large pot in the greenhouse. Then after they germinated, I selected the best 4 to 6 plants and grew them out for a couple weeks before transplanting into the garden. That way, I only planted into the garden plants that had already proven that they were precocious and robust growers. I've been doing a lot more of that lately and am very happy with the results. In the past I have noticed that plants that thrive for me do so from the time they are seedlings. Doing that also gave me nightshade poisoning this week, but that's a long convoluted story.... Let's just say that the ending is that I pulled plants from my garden and threw organic matter into the garbage can for the first time I can remember in decades.

So this spring I planted seeds that are growing for the third generation in my garden, and I planted the Indiana and California landraces, and some named cultivars, and some seeds from the hoggy swap. The named cultivars did poorly to OK. Some of the incoming landrace plants did really poorly, and some did fantastic. I harvested 4 dozen okra pods today.

One thing that could really increase harvest for me would be to select for plants that branch out quickly. I wonder if I should be pruning okra to cause it to branch out more.

Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
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ImageMistirose
Sep 29, 2014 9:16 PM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
Glare uh yea Joseph lol not nice Whistling Rolling on the floor laughing
Imagewildflowers
Sep 30, 2014 4:40 AM CST
Name: Christine
Northeast Texas, Zone 7b
I was just talking to my dh about trying pruning to get the okra to branch, although I do thinks certain varieties of okra branch out more than others.

Hope someone can tell us..

Ears perked up! Ears perked up!
FAITH over fear!

Imagewildflowers
Sep 30, 2014 4:54 AM CST
Name: Christine
Northeast Texas, Zone 7b
This person says "Never prune okra"
http://www.southernagrarian.com/never-prune-okra/

Another person here: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/861947
Said this: Okra produces like crazy here in Georgia. Years ago I had a row of okra in the garden. It had stopped producing, so a kindly old neighbor "topped" the plants and this jump started them. This year was a bumper crop year for okra. After freezing 5 one-gallon bags, i decided to just cut the okra off at ground level - remembering my topping experience. Well, it regrew and started producing even more okra! I had okra until frost, but this okra was sweeter and more tender.

This works for tomatoes too. Keeping the tops cut back and the lower branches trimmed off encourages production.
FAITH over fear!

Imagestarlight1153
Sep 30, 2014 8:59 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Okra can be pruned once the spring crop is in good for a fall crop. Here is some more info on pruning.

http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/hil/hil-19.html ( important info near bottom of page)

Joseph.... If your looking for an Okra that branches quickly, only gets 3-4' tall but puts out alot of pods all at once is Baby Bubba. I know it is a hybrid, but it grows quickly, has lots of branching on its own so you don't have to prune because it puts out clusters of Okra instead of one here and one there, which makes it easy to harvest. Pods are same size as other Okra and the year I grew about a half dozen varieties all at once, Baby Bubba and a red colored one were the ones that held up and kept producing til a hard frost.

Since it doesn't need as much spacing as other Okra's it might be something to consider interplanting with your landrace Okra to see if the branching gene would pass itself on in the seed.

http://www.burpee.com/vegetables/okra/okra-baby-bubba-hybrid...

I enjoyed it and would love to get some more seed of it to grow myself. Had some the one year from Piggy Swap, don't remember who offered it but hoping it comes around again to oink for. I think Burpee is the only place that sells the seeds for it.

The bestest thing I enjoyed about it, is no itchy hands. Didn't have to wear gloves or scratch myself silly if I picked by hand. Most Okras, have my hands itching like crazy after just a few minutes of touching the plants.

I always start Okra in small pots and than put the seedlings out. I have found that it does much better that way. Don't have to worry if seed will germinate or not because you can see the seedlings and also you don't have to wait til temps are hot enough for it to germinate. To many variables with ground planting I think for any seed that takes a long time and needs an abundance of heat. I will soak mine in a cup of hot water for a day or two with just a touch of hydrogen peroxide. Usually in a couple of days radicals will start showing. I just dig those seeds out of the water and plop in a pot and let em grow on. Sure does beat waiting weeks for the seed coat to crack.

Wild.... Add the Texas Star tomato to your wish list. I have no idea how many seeds I will find inside. Funny how some maters have a ton and others even they a huge size can have just a few. But I will be fermenting them and should be enough to offer a few up. Smiling When I first saw the name of them, all I wanted to do was go around and sing the song the Yellow Rose of Texas. Ya I was having a goofy day that day, or maybe it was just a normal one for me. Whistling Hilarious!



Imagejoseph
Sep 30, 2014 9:08 AM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity

Thanks Star: I'll look for Baby Bubba.

Here's yesterday's okra harvest. Since I have been harvesting okra for weeks, and since I have given it all away to other people, and since this may be the last harvest, therefore I am determined to keep it for myself and to eat it. Being from the north I don't have a clue how to cook or eat okra. Oh well, I suppose we'll manage.

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Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
ImageMistirose
Oct 1, 2014 12:13 PM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
soo congrats are in order for us here in Dallas. Apparently we have the first US Ebola patient just down the street and around the corner. Blinking
Imagecrittergarden
Oct 1, 2014 3:07 PM CST
Hang in there.
ImageMistirose
Oct 1, 2014 7:43 PM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
I be hangin, glad I only work in Dallas lol
Imagestarlight1153
Oct 2, 2014 6:03 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Joseph... The most popular way to eat it here in the South is to cut in about 1/2" pieces , batter it up and fry it in grease. Fried Okra is eating alot around here. A healthy way is to cut it up in same size piece or a bit bigger and add it to soups or sauces and other dishes. I have seen some folks just eat it off the branches, but I personally don't care for the taste of it that way. You can cut it up and don't clean and freeze it up . I've seen folks can up pickled Okra but haven't tasted it myself personally.

JUST a Note: Those folks that are starting to set up their databases for this years Piggy Swap, make sure you put your CMAIL addy and not your personal email addy. If you don't know how to get your personal cmail addy, go up to top of page, click on the Mail link, right click, copy and than paste the addy into your database. If you need help holler out.

I think so far I have caught the ones with an email addy and have them changed, but if anybody happens to notice one missed, please let me me ,, Patti , or Tcs know so we can change it for them.

Imagestarlight1153
Oct 2, 2014 4:49 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
IMPORTANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Official Rules and Sign-UP Sheet for this years 2014 Piggy Swap is now posted and unlocked.

It can be found here:

http://cubits.org/ellasgarden/thread/view/79909/

Hopefully all the links work.

I know some of you have already started getting your databases set up, but Please make sure you go to the above link and read things over. Some things have changed from last year from suggestions made to us. Hopefully this will make an even better experience for all participants whether returning or new.

Don't forget to Sign -Up while you are there.

Almost time to start snuffling in the mud for seeds. Whistling Hilarious! Rolling on the floor laughing

Anybody got any good hoof polish? Wanna shine my boots since the barn stalls have all been cleaned out and ready for you this year.

I know some of you are on other sites, don't forget to invite your friends from there or your Facebook gardening buddies. Thumbs up

Dave has given permission to post about the Piggy Swap in the Seed Trading and Classified section over on ATP. Once the notices are posted Please try and keep your posts and discussions about this swap on those two sections only. It will be greatly appreciated by me and Dave.

Any questions holler out and if anybody needs help, please lend a hand. Thanks bunches! Big Grin




Imagestarlight1153
Oct 3, 2014 8:34 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Morning! It is pouring down rain here today and some rough winds expected. Looks like fall/winter is on its way. Can't believe we are going to wake up to low 40's Sunday morning. Time to drag out the quilts and warmer jackets again for a few days.

Gotta get off line with storms, but thought I would leave ya all with a pic to start your day.

This is Salvia Cherry Queen. My camera doesn't capture all the true beauty of the blooms, but the hummers sure do love it. Took two seasons before it bloomed, but was well worth it and it even survived snow and 1F temps.

Thumb of 2014-10-03/starlight1153/ca0717


ImageMistirose
Oct 3, 2014 8:57 AM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
yup we had it yesterday Star, thousands still without power. Lots of downed limbs and trees.
Imagewildflowers
Oct 3, 2014 9:14 AM CST
Name: Christine
Northeast Texas, Zone 7b
Whew, that storm sure did go thru here yesterday!

Hurray! Oh boy seed swaping season is about here! Snort! Hilarious!

FAITH over fear!

Imagegreene
Oct 3, 2014 5:06 PM CST
Name: greene
Savannah, Georgia, USA
We are having thunder boomers and rain now...gee, thanks for sharing your lovely weather. Rolling on the floor laughing
Imagecrittergarden
Oct 3, 2014 5:38 PM CST
We're supposed to get the same overnight and through tomorrow....
I'm happy for the water part.
soilsandup
Oct 3, 2014 7:22 PM CST
Name: Dianne
Sacramento, CA, zone 9a
We had a little rain a week ago, but only a third of an inch. We sure can use more rain here.

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