Cottage Gardening forum: #11 Almost Piggy Seed Swap Time Chat Thread!!

 
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Imagegreene
Oct 27, 2014 8:08 PM CST
Name: greene
Savannah, Georgia, USA
poisondartfrog, Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing
And if I keep scarfing up the swap munchies I'm gonna need bigger pants, too!
poisondartfrog
Oct 28, 2014 8:37 AM CST
Name: Alana
Kentucky
There are a lot of Naranjilla recipes out there, but does anyone have one that they have actually used and liked? I would like to try some while I have plenty of fruits. Unless the weather predictions change I will probably have to harvest what's left on Saturday.
Imagestarlight1153
Oct 28, 2014 8:46 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Greene.... I'm right along with you. I must say I been a bad girl. I already done been munching all my goodies. Eating some more now *Blush* Sticking tongue out I'll have to do healthy the rest of the week to make up for it.

Oh by the way, I noticed you have the 2013 piggy seed swap on the bottom of your posts. You might want to change that to the 2014 or folks will be clicking it not realizing it is last years. Big Grin

Posion.... Yep, that's the same Passion Flower I have growing wild here in my yard. Maybe one day I will figure out the scientific name of the type I am looking for.

Glad I went out yesterday and worked in the yard transplanting and gathered seed. It's so foggy here still and everything is covered in dew. The air is full of it. Is it just me, or are the leaves turning and falling down faster this year. Wonder if that is a good thing or a bad thing.

New Post on the Rules thread. http://cubits.org/ellasgarden/thread/view_post/1094687/


Imagestarlight1153
Oct 28, 2014 9:02 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Posion... I had to go google to see what a Naranjilla was. Looks like you could almost make some juice like OJ from it. Does it live outside year round at your place or is that one that needs heat and cover during the winter. What's it taste like to you? That is if you have tried it.
Imagechelle
Oct 28, 2014 10:05 AM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
"14 days"...!!! Hurray! Blinking Hurray!

...guess it's a good thing our weather is sliding downhill fast! I need to quit moving stuff around in the gardens here and get to work packaging seeds! Whistling
poisondartfrog
Oct 28, 2014 10:38 AM CST
Name: Alana
Kentucky
I grow it as an annual, Star, treating it like I do tomatoes. Mine are the kind that have spines on the fruits as well as stems and foliage. When I tasted it raw I found it just short of jaw-lockingly sour. It's supposed to be tastier cooked. Whistling
There are apparently several strains if not cultivars, and some are better for fresh eating or juice, others superior for cooking, but in truth I was drawn to it for it's forbidding appearance.
Imagegreene
Oct 28, 2014 12:18 PM CST
Name: greene
Savannah, Georgia, USA
Oh, Starlight/Ella, good catch. I will make that change to the 2014 list, thanks a bunch!
Lovey dubby Ella watches over all her little piggys. Lovey dubby
Imagestarlight1153
Oct 28, 2014 12:53 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Quoting:From Posion: but in truth I was drawn to it for it's forbidding appearance.

:rofl: Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Big Grin

If it is that sour, you could always make them giant sour suckers and gumballs you kids eating all the time. Give the kids a nice healthy type of candy with the same kind of punch and make yourself rich and famous with a secret recipe. LOL
Imagewildflowers
Oct 28, 2014 1:12 PM CST
Name: Christine
Northeast Texas, Zone 7b
Hmm I thought they would be sweeter. I have a first year Naranjilla (Solanum quitoense)
plant growing, so no fruit yet. I also got if for its interesting and forbidding looks!! Rolling my eyes. The vendor said the fruit has a flavor similar to our native Groundcherry(Physalis sp.). Maybe the growing conditions make the flavor different? Or is it a different variety. Mine is supposed to be from the Andes.

It's supposed to make a good jelly, so maybe you could make some kind of marmalade.
FAITH over fear!

Imagestarlight1153
Oct 29, 2014 7:44 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Joseph... Here's an article you might be interested in, especially since you may be saving tubers, that is if you haven't munched them all yet. Hilarious!

http://cubits.org/Dahlias/articles/view/534/

Some good advice, especially for folks like me that have trouble trying to save them.

Wild... Good news! Have Texas Star tomato seeds fermenting now. Boy that is one pretty tomato inside and it sure it meaty. Now if I could just get the Rebel Yell's to turn before frost sets in I'd be a real happy camper. Big Grin

Also, have you or anybody else grown the Groundcherry, Physalis sp. before. Shirely777 and myself got some seed, but we have no idea when is the best time to start them or a good method to use to start them. I've never even seen one in person, I don't think. I've heard they make good jam/jelly, so want to give it a try this year.

Will be fun trying to keep the critters away from them. Not sure if I mentioned this or not, but for those plants that you want to keep critters or bugs off certain plants a deer bag works really great.

You can find deer bags, especially now that it season at hunting stores and sometimes at local places like Walmart in sporting good sections. These bags are huge. A whole deer will fit inside of them and they have a draw string which makes it easy to cover the plant and pull the string tight at the base of the stem of the plant.

If a bigger area is needed to be covered, you can slit em up one side and sew them together. Lots cheaper than trying to buy yards of cheese cloth. Also works good for when like you know a particular pest is going to emerge and start munching your plants.

Japanese Beetles are a real pest on Roses down here and when they start showing up, covering the plants til they either move on or the beneficials get them, really does help. The bags are bags are big enough to cover most rose plants if they are not the climbing ones. Just takes a bit of work when trying to remove the bags if the plants have big thorns.

The Colorado Potato beetle is notorious for munching and destroying egg plants. Cutting the bags up into smaller sections and than just sewing another pull tie helps to save your seedlings and emerging fruit blossoms.

Storms coming in this afternoon and than a big chill down. Seems like there is so much to do and so little time.

Those folks doing clean-up and burning. Please becareful. We had a neighbor last evening that had to have fire department out when a leaf burning got away from him.

Don't forget folks, some us will be turning our clocks back one hour Saturday night or Sunday morning. I'm one of those people. Make sure once we do, you have your clocks set to my EST time so you don't miss the piggy doors opening.

Imagepmb2005
Oct 29, 2014 8:03 AM CST
Name: Promise
Zone 7a Tennessee
Ella, I grew Groundcherry, Physalis sp. this year. In fact, I planted some only to find out I had some growing wild in another location. I thought they were tomatillo's. Spring planting would give them enough time to give you a bumper crop. I think they would self sow once you pick a location. I've been finding them in a other locations too, after having a big crop of them this year. Make sure the Ground Cherry is yellow before you eat it. They taste like mini pineapples. Very tasty.
Imagestarlight1153
Oct 29, 2014 8:18 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Promise... Thanks so much for the information. Big Grin Big Grin It's going to be a big help, especially the part about knowing at what color they are ripen enough to eat at. Pineapple flavor too. Yummy!! Sticking tongue out I'll pass the information on to Shirley too. She has a hard time following the threads.
Imagejoseph
Oct 29, 2014 12:37 PM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity

Star: Good to know about keeping the dahlia eyes intact.
Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
EricaBraun
Oct 29, 2014 4:24 PM CST
Name: Erica Braun
Benicia, CA
Just wanted to stop by and say hello. I am super excited about the swap, and am extremely thankful to Lovey dubby poisondartfrog Lovey dubby for telling me about it. I have posted my list of what I have available. I was initially just going to post a few things at a time, but I decided to go all out and post my whole list at once. I will likely make a few small adjustments between now and start time, but, for the most part, what you see is what you get.
poisondartfrog
Oct 29, 2014 5:35 PM CST
Name: Alana
Kentucky
Aw shucks, Erica. *Blush*

Christine, I am no Naranjilla expert but my understanding is that there is a wide variation in flavor and sweetness depending on what area the seeds came from, and even plant to plant in the same garden. Maybe once yours fruit we can do some comparing.

I planted Ground Cherry once about ten years ago and I have had the odd plant here and there ever since.


Imagewildflowers
Oct 29, 2014 5:51 PM CST
Name: Christine
Northeast Texas, Zone 7b
:welcome: Erica and all the new piggies; I think you all are in for some big FUN!

Hurray! Star, that's great about the Texas Star tomato!!

Okay, Poison, you're on about the comparison. Thumbs up Big Grin

I don't know what ground cherries taste like either. Hilarious! They grow wild around here but some critter must like them because I never find any ripe to try.
FAITH over fear!

Imagepmb2005
Oct 30, 2014 5:11 AM CST
Name: Promise
Zone 7a Tennessee
Good morning Piggies!

Question: Does Salvia cross pollinate? A local gardening friend has several types of Salvia growing close together but they all seem true. In fact, last week a hummingbird came up to the Salvia while we talking in the garden. Neither of us had seen a hummingbird in weeks, so it peaked my interest in Salvia.
poisondartfrog
Oct 30, 2014 5:27 AM CST
Name: Alana
Kentucky
Good morning Promise,
The short answer is yes, Salvia is rather famous for it's interspecific crosses, both naturally occurring and man made. It occurs often between species like microphylla and greggii. Some of those crosses result in great plants. There are species that are unlikely to cross with each other, too. If you know what kinds she has our resident Salviaphile Danita or another piggie might be able to help.
Have a good day rooting in the mud and eating slop Smiling .
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Imagebluee19
Oct 30, 2014 7:11 AM CST
Name: Bluee19 Huynh
Rosemead CA
I had a milkweed plant and the caterpillars ate all the leaves. What happens when there are no more leaves, do they die?
Imagewildflowers
Oct 30, 2014 7:22 AM CST
Name: Christine
Northeast Texas, Zone 7b
Hi bluee19, it was probably a monarch butterfly caterpillar or other butterfly cat that ate the leaves of your milkweed, since it is their favorite "host plant". You might know that. Good for you for feeding them. Lovey dubby

Since, I have yet to successfully grow milkweed, I don't know for sure, but I'd think if it was an established plant it could tolerate the leaves being eaten. It's a perennial so I'd give it a chance to grow back next year. Big Grin But, we can wait to hear from someone who knows what they're talking about.

FAITH over fear!

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