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Imagepmb2005
Oct 30, 2014 7:30 AM CST
Name: Promise
Zone 7a Tennessee
Alana,

More to the point, as I'm creating my gardens, I want to be conscious of creating true seeds and avoid mixed colors. For example, Salvia coccinea ‘Lady in Red’, Salvia coccinea ‘Coral Nymph’ and Salvia 'Azurea' are all Salvia I would like to plant. It is my understanding that Salvia spreads underground by its root system, so after a few years, you have a nice plot of Salvia. How far do they need to be away from each other to prevent the colors changing?
Imagechelle
Oct 30, 2014 8:32 AM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
bluee19 wrote:I had a milkweed plant and the caterpillars ate all the leaves. What happens when there are no more leaves, do they die?


I'm not sure about your plants or climate, but our perennial plants return. Of course the leaf stripping occurs here not long before the plants would be frosted and enter winter dormancy anyway, so one way or another the leaves would be gone.


On another note...I was so pleased to see that Asclepias currasavica seed scattered at maturity last fall did indeed sprout and grow here this year! The plants didn't quite make it to seed maturity, but they did have time to flower. Smiling

ImageSorellina
Oct 30, 2014 8:53 AM CST
Name: Julianna
Victoria, BC USDA Zone 8
Ciao all-

I'm outside in a bit to harvest any remaining nasturtium seed before frost. Tomorrow, get this, we're forecast for snow, just in time for Halloween. Frost is the bigger bummer, though.

I have a tall obelisk with a mix of Jewel of Africa and King Theodore. Jewel of Africa has a variety of colours ranging from orange to yellow to crimson and the leaves are the Alaska type - kelly green with splatters of white. King Theodore has darker solid green leaves and scarlet flowers. There are lots of seeds, so please let me know who is interested in these. Normally, I try to save distinct varieties, but these were all robust volunteers and I was too thrilled after our hideous winter to cull them. Usually, there's lots of interest in nasturtiums, so don't be shy!
Grazie a tutti,
Julianna
Imagechelle
Oct 30, 2014 10:01 AM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
Hi Julianna,

I'd slurp up some of your nasturtiums. Thumbs up
Imagewildflowers
Oct 30, 2014 10:46 AM CST
Name: Christine
Northeast Texas, Zone 7b
Yummy, nasturtiums!!

Julianna~
I'd be interested too.
FAITH over fear!

ImageRedLeopard
Oct 30, 2014 11:20 AM CST
Name: Ron
Naples, FL
Some Salvia spread by underground runners, most do not. Not sure about Salvia azurea, as I have never grown it (but now I'm thinking about it, should add it to my Wishlist Big Yellow Grin ). The S. azurea and the S. coccinea are so far removed from one another genetically, I seriously doubt hybridization between them would be an issue. As for the 'Lady in Red' and the 'Coral Nymph', they are the same plant, just different colors, and will freely cross-pollinate. There will always be the chance of crossing between the two, but the farther apart, and the more barriers between (as in front yard vs. back yard), the better.

Seed that were crossed are easily culled once they bloom, as they will be a somewhat paler shade of red. Of course, if the crossed plants produce seed, those seed will throw some white and some pink. The genetics are simple. I used to have a patch of red, white and pink which freely crossed. I ended up with a variety of shades of red, but there were always some intense red, some pink and some white. The wild-type red, the pink, and the white are all "pure" colors in the sense they will come true to color if self-pollinated or pollinated by others of the same color.

As for the milkweed, typically they are "used" to the caterpillar stripping. I have A. currassavica which will be stripped down two or three times a year. If they continued to try to grow while the caterpillers (and the adults that know they're there) are still present , stored nutrients would soon be exhausted. Instead, they go into a "waiting period", then after a couple weeks, the caterpillers are pupated/gone, the adults have moved on to greener pastures, and the plants begin to regrow. Before long, they are blooming again.

Which of course attracts Monarchs and related adults, and the cycle begins again.

Ron
Imagestarlight1153
Oct 30, 2014 12:21 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Sorellina.... Cool! I know a couple of piggies that would enjoy some of your Nasturtiums too, myself included if you have enough when you list them available. I gotta feeling you may need to bring plenty to the swap. Keep picking them seeds. Hilarious! Hilarious!

RedLeopard... Certainly add it to your WishList and anything else that strikes your fancy. You never know what the piggy fairy's may have. Thumbs up By the way does your granddaughter have a favorite color? Always like to see an up and coming gardener. Hurray! Hurray!

Updated post on Rules thread. http://cubits.org/ellasgarden/thread/view_post/1095188/
ImageRedLeopard
Oct 30, 2014 1:00 PM CST
Name: Ron
Naples, FL
Star, right now her favorite color is yellow. Because Queen Elsa has yellow hair. And of course, Rapunzel has yellow hair. Also, her mommy (currently) has yellow hair. She is so excited that now that her hair is waist-length, the ends are bleaching out to yellow. So.... yellow. Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing

But I try to keep her bed colorful, so any color is fair game!
ImageSorellina
Oct 30, 2014 4:41 PM CST
Name: Julianna
Victoria, BC USDA Zone 8
Ok, good, glad to know so many are interested in the nasturtiums!

Ella, I'm getting a good amount of Mina Lobata seed as well. I'm so amazed and delighted that it grew so well for me, especially with my less than ideal climate, particularly this year. I picked some and put them in vases with other stuff like cosmos and coleus and they actually had a fairly long lifespan after picking! I should be able to share some of that as well.

I can report that all tomatoes have been pulled as of today as well as most of the eggplants in pots. I harvested a couple Purple Egg eggplants and will see if I get good seeds from them. I got a good-sized pack from a friend in the Philippines and I do grow them just about every year, just a couple plants for Asian stir fries and soups, but I'd like to increase the seeds and distribute them to others who may like a nice tiny Asian eggplant. I'll keep you posted on how successful I am with that.

My Cerinthe, like a lot of things, are very late this year and right now they look like they should have in August, just starting to produce mature seed. I was hoping to share some, but I may only get enough for a couple packs. When things become dire outside, I'll pull the plants and get all of the remaining seed off. Right now, I'm just checking them every few days or so for seed that comes off easily.

I will also have quite a bit of Variegated Lunaria to share this year. Being a biennial, I didn't have any lovely dry seed pods last year, but they really out-performed this season, even despite the ice storm. Likewise on the Creme de Cassis Hollyhock. I haven't harvested those seeds yet. They were shoe-horned in with the indeterminate tomato plants in the front yard. It's all too chaotic out there because I resorted to planting where I could, when I could in between storms.

Please pray for a hotter, drier summer next year!
Grazie a tutti,
Julianna
ImageArleneB
Oct 30, 2014 5:24 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
I think I may have some salvia azurea seeds because i started some from seed but it was 2013. I know my daughter has one and i grabbed some seed heads but only got two seeds. I'll look and see what i have.
Imagestarlight1153
Oct 30, 2014 5:28 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Folks, I forgot to add Barbara00 to list of piggies who may need a bit of help. Regular piggies, you may remember that last year Christine00 had to help and do almost everything for her. She gonna be trying to go solo this year.

Joseph... If you run into problems or have questions about the Dahlia's, cmail CCVacation. She is mainly a Dahlia grower and been at it a long time. She full of knowledge about them.

Oh, and I do have a few Ginkgo seeds if you want to try them. Big Grin You'll be able to harvest and do things with the leaves long before they will ever make fruit.

RedLeopard... With all the crazy colors in a crayon box now a days, so glad she picked an easy one. Hilarious! Shhhh. Don't tell anybody, but I like watching Queen Elsa too, especially on Storybrook and I can sing, all off key of course, "Let it go! " Rolling on the floor laughing

Sorelina... Good for you. I think I gave you the last of the Mina lobata seed I had. Glad you had good luck with it and can share. My straggler of a vine finally bit the dust.

We're gonna have a good frost and a freeze for Sat and Sunday night. From weather news tonight, looks like some of you folks may be waking up to frost in the morning.

I did see the neatest thing to night. We have bats!!!!!!!! Hurray! Was on the back porch at a neighbors and we was chatting and having coffee when I seen something strange flying in the air. About 5 miles down the road has a colony of bats. Bad thing was they built there homing place in the top of the garage. For years we have been trying to get some of the bats down this way. They a great natural predator for the gazillion mosquito's here plus all the other pests.
Besides feeding on the bugs, we discovered they are coming to eat the ripe Wild Persimmon fruits off the tree.

If you've never been bat watching, you should try it sometime. It's really very interesting. Thumbs up

Only about 10 more days to go to Swap time. Big Grin
ImageMistirose
Oct 30, 2014 6:57 PM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
I actually have a few small red leaves comming out on a couple of Poinsettias I rescued from work last year Hurray!
Imagegreene
Oct 30, 2014 8:41 PM CST
Name: greene
Savannah, Georgia, USA
We love bats! When my DH was alive we used to take a drive after supper to count bats, deer and wild pigs on Skidaway Island.
A very relaxing hobby. He build bat houses for everyone as Christmas gifts one year.
ImageAndi
Oct 30, 2014 9:23 PM CST
Name: aka GardenQuilts
Facebook, NGA
and the beloved Winston the pug
Thank you for your concern, Winston and I are alright.

Life has been challenging lately. I had a suspicious freckle scare and an ongoing search for a competent new endocrinologist. I just got back from staying with relatives in the city, getting second opinions from some doctors and some tests. I keep outliving my doctors and having to find new ones. Nothing life threatening, just annoying.

Winston was glad to walk around "his" lake again. He doesn't like crowds. He gets tired of everyone telling him how cute he is - we should all have such challenges.

ImageRedLeopard
Oct 30, 2014 9:28 PM CST
Name: Ron
Naples, FL
Ahh... Mina lobata. I do want that vine...

I have a dead orange tree right behind the house in mostly full sun. I want to run a couple Mina lobata vines up the tree and into the branches at least once before the tree rots at the base and falls over. I think that would look great! This past spring, I planted eight seed, but only two came up. I planted six more, and got one more plant. At least they were doing well, and when big enough, I planted them at the base of the orange tree and used some jute twine for them to climb into the tree. One plant was about three feet tall and one was about two feet tall when a bird or rabbit or something cut the vines and twine in two a few inches above the ground. By the time I realized it, all was lost.

I'll give other Piggies a crack at them first, as I do have a few seed left. But later in the swap, if any are available, I may just be looking for some back-up seed!
Imagegreene
Oct 31, 2014 5:00 AM CST
Name: greene
Savannah, Georgia, USA
Hello Andi, good to see you again. Thumbs up Hello Winston...glad you are home again. Lovey dubby

Imagestarlight1153
Oct 31, 2014 7:17 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.... Got the long johns and ski hat on already this morning. A balmy 35F this morning. About another hour and I'll head outside and start getting things moved and covered for tomorrow mornings frost.

The squirrels will working furiously today too to finish up building their nests. They have been at it all week. I just hope they have built them more solid this year. I felt bad when the tornado winds blew them all to pieces and left them out in the cold more or less with no leaves to rebuild. Even though they drive me crazy digging up and munching plants, I did feel sorry for them seeing them shiver on the tree branches. Wanted to give em all mini dog sweaters. *Blush* Hilarious!

Greene... I have thought on and off about putting up a couple of bat houses, but than I think to myself that I have so many critters here now that I try and keep a food supply for I don't know if I want to add to the menagerie. Plus I do enough extra hair washings from being outside and having been hit with no so nice things from birds, squirrels and other things in the air and trees. I know bat guano is good for the garden, but I would rather not have it on my bare toes or in my hair. Whistling Hilarious!

Misti.... Good for you. It's not easy to keep them alive from year to year. They sure brighten up the winter with their color. Big Grin

Andi... Glad you and Winston are back and ok. You both been missed. Group hug

ImageMistirose
Oct 31, 2014 10:44 AM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
yes they do Star! I love Squirrels, I have one that has adopted me here at work. I posted video of her in my Board here if anyone wants to check her out.

http://cubits.org/ellasgarden/forums/view/mistismagnificentm...
Imagepmb2005
Oct 31, 2014 11:43 AM CST
Name: Promise
Zone 7a Tennessee
Ron, thank you for the info about Salvia! I've used the knowledge to refine my search for plants.

Sorellina, may I please get some of your nasturtiums? I've never grown it before and would love to. Thank you!

ImageAndi
Oct 31, 2014 12:13 PM CST
Name: aka GardenQuilts
Facebook, NGA
and the beloved Winston the pug
I also want to grow nasturtiums next year. I took a book out of the library, Monet's Cookbook. It had some interesting recipes and lots of pictures of his house and gardens.There was a lovely picture of the nasturtiums along a path in the garden. I want to try that on a small scale on the path beside my house next year. I visited the gardens years ago when I was in France as an exchange student. I visited the gardens years ago when I was in France as an exchange student. I would love to visit again.

I have a couple of Empress of India nasturtium from piggy seeds. I had them in an outdoor planter, but moved them to a hanging pot to bring inside. They haven't bloomed, yet, but I hope they flower inside.

I have to get back outside to blow the leaves and rescue a few more plants. We are expecting the first frost this weekend. My front "Florida room" is full of overwintering plants. I have some extra lights here and there and my seed starting shelf along one wall. My desk is under the window. It should be a cheerful place to work in the winter.

I bought a gardenia plant from Home Depot. It is a healthy plant this summer, lots of new leaves, plenty of buds, but they drop off before they bloom. It is very disappointing. I am overwintering it inside, of course. Any suggestions?

Out to blow more leaves. I had to come inside to warm my feet and find wool socks. OMG, my back yard is ankle to knee deep in oak and maple leaves. My neighbor has a unique technique. He blows the leaves into large piles then uses the snowplow attachment on his riding mower to push them into the woods across the street. I blow mine into the woods behind my house.

Winston the pug is snoring on the loveseat. I filled it with pillows to discourage him from jumping on it, but he thinks thy are there so that he can get comfy. He is grumpy today. He doesn't like chilly weather or leaf blowers.

It is a little drafty by my desk. His bed under the desk was probably too chilly today. I miss my little foot warmer. I have to put extra weather stripping and/or caulk around the windows, install the plastic insulation film and make some heavier drapes! The todo list gets long when you don't get things done!

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