Cottage Gardening forum: #11 Almost Piggy Seed Swap Time Chat Thread!!

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Oct 13, 2014 5:15 PM CST
Name: Charleen
Alford, Florida
Walk in Peace.
durn, I lost the person who was asking about the Pipevine seed. Aristolochia trilobata
is name that came with the plant. I got it from a friend and it produced the seed pods... Very interesting plants. Flies get trapped inside the little flowers..
Oct 13, 2014 6:30 PM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
wildflowers wrote:Speaking of flowers that bloom until frost, I just have to brag about these zinnias again :
Zinnia haageana--Old Mexico !

They really have been outstanding bloomers in my garden this year! I planted the seeds (From chelle) directly in a minimally improved part of my cottage garden; they sprouted and have been blooming ever since. They're still going strong! They're low maintenance too, I don't think I've watered them more than a couple of times all summer. Love them.

This photo doesn't really do them justice but here they are. Big Grin
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Glad you liked them, Christine. Thumbs up

I didn't start any this year. I thought with all the seeds that surely dropped last year I'd have a few volunteers, but no, not a one showed up. Definitely can't classify that plant as a nuisance reseeder here. Hilarious!
Oct 13, 2014 7:06 PM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity

JonnaSudenius: Thanks, I went through that list and updated my wishlist with species that I thought might grow in my climate.

Star: Wikipedia says, "Lack of moisture makes [skirret] root more fibrous." LOL! Like I need to be growing a fibrous plant that gets even more fibrous when it's arid.... The dahlias I grew this year were plenty fibrous. But I'm trying to grow okra -- one of the most heat-loving and frost-intolerant plants around. Hee hee hee.

I am already growing several crops from the skirret family. They thrive around here. I even have closely related weeds and wild-relatives. It looks productive.

Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: Lofthouse
Oct 13, 2014 7:49 PM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity

A couple of swaps ago I received cactus fruits. What a mess they turned into during the journey! I planted them as soon as they arrived. They didn't germinate the first year. But this fall when I was giving the cactus bed it's fall cleaning I noticed that about 5 plants have germinated. Woo Hoo! Thanks to the senders. I guess they get a winter hardiness test for the next few months.

My current method of collecting cactus seeds is to put 1 cup of fruits and six cups of water into the blender and run on high for 30 seconds. Upon sitting, the pulp floats and the seeds sink, so I can dump off the water, rinse a couple of times, and have clean seeds.

Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: Lofthouse
Oct 14, 2014 7:52 AM CST
Name: Julianna
Victoria, BC USDA Zone 8
Ciao all -

October is a really nutty month for me and this year's crazy weather has made it challenging to say the least. All of my tomatoes were late, so canning that normally starts in August started in September and hasn't stopped yet. Duane's peppers were not all that productive this year and that Uchu Pepper I got from Alana for him did not thrive at all. I think he still has some seed, but I'll check with him. This weekend was Canadian Thanksgiving which, in my opinion, is far too early so we use the long weekend for a drive to the country for Crispin Apples to make into applesauce and a big heirloom pumpkin for pressure canning in water. This year it's Musquee de Province and yes, I'm saving seeds. We also splurged on a brussels sprouts tree at the pumpkin farm. Growing brussels sprouts and other heading brassicas is not one of my super powers.

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Star, the eggplant in the photo I shared is Rosa Bianca and it's not tiny. Most of those weighed at least 2 lbs each. I used the ones in the photo for Eggplant Parmesan in my oversized lasagna pan. I had very good success with my eggplants this year by starting the seeds early and having very large transplants with well-established roots.

We visited our community garden this weekend to harvest the Glass Gem Corn and Rainbow Broom Corn to enter into the Royal Agricultural Winter Fair. This is how we had to transport the broom corn and corn stalks. The broom corn and corn stalks that won't go to the fair will be brought to a cattle farm to get ground into silage for the animals. That stuff takes forever to break down into any sort of compost system and I'd rather "recycle" it for the animals.

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Grazie a tutti,
Oct 14, 2014 3:06 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
Boy what a night and day of rough winds and three inches of rain. Rain just stopped a bit ago so I could get back online. Running at about half power as the storms are still over my servers area. Walked outside and walked right back in and got some warmer clothes on. Rain moved out but the cold front moved in. Dropped 30F overnight.

Branches all over the place. Wind still knocking them down along with the leaves and the nuts. Went to take trash to road and just barely missed getting hit in the head from a falling branch.

Joseph.... Oh yes, I remember them cactus seeds. Had some that were cleaned and than the ones somebody sent that had gotten mushed in transport and I know what a mess they was when they got sent to you. They must take a long time to germinate as I have tons of fruits on mine and I just let them do their thing, but I don't find new plants all over the place. I thought I had lost all my patches this past winter, but they did come back. They looked like a pile of mush from winter, but once the warm weather kicked in they came back and plumped all back up.

For your pecan seedlings this is what Professor Eakes told us. Of course you'll have to make the adjustment for the different temps between our Christmas week weather and yours now or soon.

" Tap root system when young that becomes fibrous when the tree gets older. Plant in the dormant season (Nov-March) Always plant trees less than 8" tall unless they are container grown. My father always said for best results transplant pecan trees small and transplant them Christmas week. "

Usually temps here around Christmas week are low 40's during the day and 28-35F at night. Of course crazy weather past couple of years has changed that.

If your interested in some hickory nuts let me know. It does take the trees a long time to produce, but once they do, they produce masses of nuts, that is if you can keep the squirrels from eating them all.

I don't know off hand if I have Carya ovalis, Carya cordiformis and/or Carya tomemtosa. I have a lot of hickories growing here. Like most folks, I prefer the sweet meat of the pecans. The meat in my hickory nuts is smaller and harder to dig out, but are good for baking and adding a bit of crunch to foods.

The high winds last night and this morning have sent nuts everywhere all over the yard. If you want some, I'll gather them up before any insects or the squirrels get to them.

Sorellina... Don't feel bad. Lots of us have had trouble with tomatoes and peppers this year. I have one tomato bush out there that has well over 50 blossoms on it. They been on it for weeks and weeks and darn thing won't make the first tomato. Very frustrating. I feel like I am watching the pot that never boils.

Oct 15, 2014 9:57 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
Last year seed was sent for Kwilds. We never did find out what happened to her. Whatever the situation was, I hope that she safe and sound. I saved the seed that was sent. I'll be adding some of it to my database and some of it to the one-to one Part 2 section. Just thought I would let ya know.

Still no color on them Texas Star maters. I am ready to pick em and take them to town to a suntan booth. Maybe than they will get a little color. Hilarious!

Oct 15, 2014 8:45 PM CST
Ontario, Canada (zone 6a)
Ugh, I haven't decided if I should join or not.... (well I know I SHOULDN'T join but the question is: Will I join anyways?)

I had fun last year....and I do have lots to share...nothing to unusual... but I am sadly disappointed in my seed starting this past year. I got a few in successfully but some I didn't get any germination (and would love to re-oink) and lots I just didn't even try so I still have them for next year.

Part of it was I never got my planters built and thats where many of the annuals were suppose to go.
Oct 16, 2014 6:21 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
Hi BrendaVR!!!!!!!!!!! Glad to see you made it through the winter. Weather was rough here, so I know it had to be terrible up your way.

Quoting:(well I know I SHOULDN'T join but the question is: Will I join anyways?)

Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Now you sound just like the rest of us.

Most of us have seed we haven't gotten to yet, but we don't let a little thing like that stop us. Hilarious! Hilarious!

Glad you had fun and hope you decide to join in again. Your more than welcome too. Big Grin

I've had that happen and am sure others have too where I tried to grow something and it didn't take. Sometimes it's me being to impatient for the seed to germinate, not realizing some may take a season or two to sprout or me just doing it right and having to try a different way.

I'm still dumping pots of stuff that all died from cold and than floods here. Hopefully next year will be a better one. I'll just keep on trying. I had a neighbor down and yesterday we both was talking about what we could do to try and stop our areas from being flooded.

A neighbor tried to put out seed for cool crops and the flooding rains we just got, destroyed everything. I expect the neighbor across and down the road may find some veggies growing in his yard from where the seed all washed away over to his area if it hasn't rotted first.

Today is a sad day. Have to face the fact that winter is coming as all my hummingbirds have gone and migrated on. I'll keep fresh feeders up for several weeks yet for those still migrating from the North on down, but I sure miss seeing them fuss and buzz around while I drink my morning coffee. I had a couple of babies born here this year. Sure hope they make it to their winter home ok and back again.

It always amazes me in the spring when they come how something so tiny can travel such a long distance and with the way things change, still manage to find their way back to your house again.

Now that they are gone, it's battle time with the squirrels. Darn critters are already starting to dig up plant roots while they bury their nuts. A whole big yard that they could bury nuts in and nope they gotta always bury in my plants. It's so cute watching them do their little patty-pat-pat when they burying their seed, but not so cute when I am trying to rip tree seedlings up everywhere out of beds and pots from them. I could have a great tree farm if I could just corral them all, give em each a bag of seed, and have them walk a field in a row and plant. Whistling Hilarious! Hilarious!

Wild.... Your Zinnias are beautiful. Did you have to keep them deadheaded or are they self cleaning to keep blooming? I have just about gotten to the point where I like the Zinnias of smaller height. Seems they don't mildew from the high humidity here as bad as the tall ones, but the tall ones sure do look pretty too when in bloom and blowing gently from the breezes.

Gonna have another cup of coffee than head outdoors. Need to pick up limbs from the wind and see what else is ready of seed to harvest.

Have a "Pinky" day folks and see ya later.

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Oct 16, 2014 7:02 AM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
I'm with you, Ella. Of all the migratory critters we have here, I miss the hummingbirds the most. Sad

You might try hugelkultur beds in your flood-prone areas. Every time you have storm cleanup in your neighborhood stack whatever debris you move. As it's available top that with garden debris, and then a layer of sand, soil, compost, manure, or what-have-you and plant on top and down the sides.

I built mine (mostly) of stacked logs, limb debris, garden debris and horse stall gleanings. They grow fabulous plants, they're at or above normal flood-lines, and it would be hard for them to wash away. Best of all -they incorporate materials that already need a use (someone has to pick them up anyway) and they're usually free.

Here's three of my newest hugel beds. The one in front is right outside my west windows; on the left will be mostly spring-flowering bulbs, and the furthest one is mostly mums and daylilies right now, but has an ever-expanding rock garden on its far side.

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[Brenda, those are your Camelot foxgloves, there on the right edge of the image. Big Yellow Grin Thank you! They'll be my first.]
Oct 16, 2014 3:26 PM CST
Name: Julianna
Victoria, BC USDA Zone 8
Ciao all-

There's a thunderstorm happening right now, totally harshed my mellow for getting some plants pulled and more seeds harvested.

Chelle, your garden looks like a park! Mine never looks that nice on its best day. Duane came up with the brilliant idea of putting down some landscape cloth before planting next season to cut down on the weeds. To say they got away from me is an understatement. It was downright ridiculous and I threw up my hands at one point.

I'm happy to report that by the end of the weekend, I should be caught up with all fermented tomato varieties and I can turn my attention to making labels and packaging seeds for this and other swaps. I probably have one more large batch of sauce or salsa to make with the tomatoes, but that's it, just salads from here on out.

My annual flowers were terribly late getting going like most other things in the garden this year. I'm just starting to get seeds from some of the more challenging plants with super tiny seeds like the Salpiglossis and Portulaca. I'm really hoping to have some to share. I'll have some Cerinthe, I'm not sure how much and I'll have lots of 4 O'Clock Salmon Sunset, so that's good. I've only harvested racemes from the Coral and Snow Nymph Salvias, so I'm hoping to have some time to shake those things and see what kind of seed I get from them, maybe this weekend.
Grazie a tutti,
Oct 16, 2014 4:46 PM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
Sorellina wrote:

...Chelle, your garden looks like a park! Mine never looks that nice on its best day.

Thanks! Big Yellow Grin But these are the new beds...they haven't had a chance to get crazy-weedy yet. Whistling The rest of the gardens look pretty wild and wooly right now.

Sorellina wrote:
I'll have lots of 4 O'Clock Salmon Sunset, so that's good.

Me, too! Thank you! This was one of my favorite plants this year. Lovey dubby
Oct 16, 2014 5:04 PM CST
Name: Christine
Northeast Texas, Zone 7b
Beautiful chelle!!! Lovey dubby

My gardens are looking pretty wild and wooly right now too, plus the herbs that are flowering like crazy and making seeds all over the place! But every time I go out to cut back or pull up, I see all the bees and other pollinators all over and don't have the heart to take their pollen and nectar away! I just know I'm going to be sorry with all the little seedlings that will be popping up in my garden beds!

Hi Star, I didn't do anything with the zinnias other than deadhead for seeds. lol

FAITH over fear!

Oct 17, 2014 6:41 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
Chelle..... Did you want me to start making hugelkultur beds right away? I was thinking very nice how your beds look than in early afternoon I heard a giant thump. I looked out front door and back and didn't see where thankfully another big tree branch had fallen and especially not on my van.

We've had branches and leaves coming all down from the high winds and the rain for days, but when I looked out immediate areas looked ok. Figured it was just probably another neighbor who had something fall down

That was until I went out later evening to check the mail. I was busy looking at my tomato plants as I went by and the new critter tunnels heading to that area across the driveway and wasn't really paying attention to where my feet was walking til I about stumbled.

Right smack across the driveway was a big Oak tree that had come down. My first thought was Chelle, is this a hint. Whistling Hilarious!

Trapped me right in the yard. I don't have the strength to lift a chain saw so had to call a friend in town to come help so I could get out or emergency vehicle in. His saw was electric and while he brought a 100 foot cord it wouldn't reach to the outdoor electric sockets so he put a big rope on it and slowly dragged it up the hill out of the way.

When he got done, I was telling him about your hugelkultur beds and we started laughing. I told him , " I'll have to Chelle the first pieces of wood on the one hill in place now." Hilarious! I'm ready for you to finish the rest of it for me. Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing

I don't remember off hand who all it was that wanted some of the Surprise/Spider lilies. I went out and had a few plants left that had done bloomed and were starting to disappear back into the ground. I pulled the semi-dried top off of one and gently opened up what looked like a tiny seed pod. Inside I did find some seeds. They look like tiny white grains of salt.

I picked the rest of the heads I found and have them drying now. I'll put them up on my database, so add them to your Wish list. I won't consider them a oink since I don't know if they will grow or not. The friend who moved my downed tree last night may still have some bulbs drying at his place. If he does, he'll give them to me and I'll post em.

Oct 17, 2014 2:53 PM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
Hilarious! It's a sign, Ella.

Sorry about your tree. Sad I always feel bad when one is lost, but now you know where to toss your brush, twigs and branches...all that good stuff, ya know? Doesn't have to be finished all at once...just as you need a place to toss stuff, toss it there. Big Yellow Grin If I can get out of my driveway in February I'd love to come down and help! Whistling Y'all might be out of the single digits ...I'll get a tan. Rolling on the floor laughing

I'm having trouble locating seeds on my very florific bachelor's buttons...anyone have any advice? Are there hybrids that don't set seed?

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Oct 17, 2014 6:33 PM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
I have a new thread for pics and videos of critters, bugs and birds. Come check it out and share!
Oct 18, 2014 10:24 AM CST
Name: Julianna
Victoria, BC USDA Zone 8
For Ella, the foster mom of so many feral fur-kids!
Grazie a tutti,
Oct 18, 2014 1:49 PM CST
Name: Alana
chelle wrote:
I'm having trouble locating seeds on my very florific bachelor's buttons...anyone have any advice? Are there hybrids that don't set seed?

Chelle, are you sharing your garden with Finches, Gold or House? They beat me to Centaurea seeds among others if I don't get there first.
Oct 18, 2014 3:02 PM CST
Name: Carolyn Madden
Hi All,

I have not participated in one of these swaps in a very long time. Some names are familiar and some are new.

I will be getting a list together for my wants and haves shortly.

Oct 19, 2014 2:16 AM CST
Name: Teresa
southcentral KY
I am new to this and was wondering where you can see what is available? If you see something you want but do not have a seed that the other person wants can you seed a plant? Just wondering. I love seeds but I didn't collect many this year.

Thank you,

Teresa in KY
Teresa in KY

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