Cottage Gardening forum: 2014 Seed Swap Chatter #4

 
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ImagePatti1957
Dec 4, 2014 11:53 PM CST
Name: Patti
Eagle Point, OR
We came from here: http://cubits.org/ellasgarden/thread/view/80541/

This years seed swap will run from November 10th, 2014, starting at 10 PM EST. and run til Midnight on December 10th, 2014.

It's time to spiffy up the hooves, practice your "Oinking" and "Snorting" voices and mud wrestling skills. Hilarious!

A few things have changed this year, so if you haven't please make sure you read the Sign-Up and Rules section.

Below you can find easy links to all parts of the swap. So you don't get lost, make sure you click the Watch This Thread button. If you have any questions, feel free to post them on here or the Sign-Up thread.

Rules and Sign-Up Sheet : http://cubits.org/ellasgarden/thread/view/79909/

Official Seed Swap Starting Line: http://cubits.org/ellasgarden/thread/view/80060/

Database of Seed Lists: http://cubits.org/ellasgarden/db/2014piggyseedswap/

Even if you don't join the Piggy Swap this year, feel free to follow along and chat with us. We're always glad to make new friends and learn as we go.

Happy Oinking 2014 Piggies!!


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Imagepmb2005
Dec 5, 2014 12:50 AM CST
Name: Promise
Zone 7a Tennessee
Pinging Cans, Dehydrators, 1,200 lbs of tomatoes, Cat Thyme, Kudzu.... wow, it hasn't been that long since I checked the thread but y'all sure move right along!

Kudzu bugs, I didn't know those are these awful things everywhere!!!!!! Oh I hate them!!!!! I'm to the point now where I will catch it and throw it out the door so it doesn't find a crack to live. What's the deal with masses of ladybugs? Some of them bite! The south has some things to get use to, warm weather, sunny days, many rainbows all year, southern hospitality, home cooking and insects. Lots and LOTS of insects!!! I seen some crazy things this year.

Saddleback Caterpillar - It was on a Canna leaf stinging me!
Potato Caterpillar with Parasites!
Red Velvet Ant - Which is actually a wasp!
Let's not forget red ants! Oh my stars!!!! They'll mess you up!

When we first moved here, we were removing the nasty, neglected pond that was here and hubby was using a Bobcat. He had rolled the Bobcat over a Yellow Jacket nest. The bucket was stuck on what he was trying to demolish. He was stuck in the Bobcat while they tore him up. I was ready to climb up and pull him out, when he got the bucket to go down and he jumped out and ran. In moments I was rushing him to the ER. He now carries an epi-pen.

I love bees, even tho I accidentally got stung by a bumble bee this summer, but it was a mistake. I didn't see it there. It's those darn wasps, I hate!!! They will chase you and sting again and again and again! Which brings me to my next southern insect I could live without.

Mahogany Wasps! I had one fly up under my skirt when I first moved here and I have no idea what was happening. It felt like I was on fire all over. I was on my child's playground at school, so it's not like I could really investigate. It must have been a sight to see me dancing that jig. I had a baby with me at the time, so I couldn't just run off....

Ah, the price we pay for a few days of snow. I'm telling you, walking to school in the snow, in the snow belt of Michigan, just ruined me for liking snow.

Thank you all again for the most excellent swap. It was better than any romance novel! I'm certainly smitten and rubbing my piggy belly. Lovey dubby

Promise I tip my hat to you.
Imagejoseph
Dec 5, 2014 2:26 AM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity

I was horrified this summer by a bug. Sad I actually saw a mosquito this year... Grumbling I don't see them every year, but we had unusual monsoonal rains late in the growing season. I even had mildew on the squash.

Last I counted, I had about 300 pounds of seed stashed away in a number of widely separated locations. I grow my own seed for about 70 varieties of vegetables, from about 55 species. Then there's herbs, trees, fiber producing plants, flowers, decoratives, medicines, etc, that I have seed for, but am still figuring out how to grow and save for seed. Tobacco moved from the "have seed" category this year to the "producing seed" category.

For the past 15 years I've been expecting the imminent arrival of Lady Teotwawki. Every winter solstice I am filled with wonder that she hasn't visited my village yet.
Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
Imagetcs1366
Dec 5, 2014 6:19 AM CST
Name: Terese
Leesburg, FL zone9b
Wisconsin Dells Area, zone4
Patti -- thanks for the new thread... was gonna do it last night, but went to bed instead. Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing

Erica - guess disregard my cmail about the Thyme.... did a bit of digging [no pun intended]
http://www.rarexoticseeds.com/en/teucrium-marum-seeds-cat-th...

Only other site that I saw carry seeds was in europe somewhere, as payment was in Euro, which i know nothing about.

Where someone commented their cat at the plants to the nubs... when plants are young enough, Sir Charles eats them roots and all.

When he was younger, still kittenish... I found this one seed; looked like a bean of some sort [though i never had bean seeds] but it was larger. I put it in a pot in a south facing window... it grew and grew, and one day had a bud on it - so it would flower soon. DH and i had gone out for the day... I came back to check on it -- and there was no sign of the plant anywhere, no leaf, no bit of stem -- nothing... Charlie ate the entire plant.
Terese -- Leesburg, FL & Lake Delton, Wi
My Email is my userID at hotmail.com

ImageDayjillymo
Dec 5, 2014 8:27 AM CST
Name: Jill
NW Missouri
Joseph, if you think back 15 years, I think maybe Lady Teotwawki may have arrived and we've gotten used to her. Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing

My cats have always enjoyed catmint. I'm interested in the thyme to see if it has a similar effect here.

Imagetcs1366
Dec 5, 2014 9:26 AM CST
Name: Terese
Leesburg, FL zone9b
Wisconsin Dells Area, zone4
it's funny -- charlie does not care for catmint. I have a patch for him in his yard in WI, and he pretty much ignores it. He'll walk past and sniff once in a while, but never nibble on it.

that rareseeds site is in Quebec, and i dont think if i ordered some I'd get them in time for the swap.
Terese -- Leesburg, FL & Lake Delton, Wi
My Email is my userID at hotmail.com

ImageMistirose
Dec 5, 2014 9:32 AM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
Im here! Hurray!

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Imagejoseph
Dec 5, 2014 10:37 AM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity

Next year, same as the last. A little bit badder a little bit worse.
Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
ImageDayjillymo
Dec 5, 2014 12:13 PM CST
Name: Jill
NW Missouri
Yep - bad to worse is how I'd express it too.
Weedwhacker
Dec 5, 2014 1:34 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Michigan UP (Zone 4b or 5a)
Promise, we HAVE moved through quite a few different subjects recently, haven't we !

You've had quite a year with the bugs... we had a horrible summer for mosquitoes, with a very wet spring and summer here. And we also have a lot of wasps around -- last year they built a very large nest inside my greenhouse, down near the bottom of a bin that I use to corral some of my stakes and poles, which is at the back end of the GH, so I didn't realize they were there until they were really having a population explosion. They were so aggressive that I couldn't even get a good look at the nest, never mind spray it with wasp spray; ended up dragging the hose in, shoving the end into the bin, and flooding them out. Drowned a lot of the workers, and I saw the queen crawling up the handle of a small rake that was standing up in the bin so I was able to give her a blast of spray. This past summer I didn't have any wasp (well, they were actually hornets) activity in the GH at all, which made me very happy!! Normally I'm all for living with nature, but those things are just too aggressive and nasty to be sharing my GH.

Erica and Terese, I'm curious to try the cat thyme now, too! I had found the same site that Teresa posted the link for, there don't seem to be very many sources; and I agree, Terese, that we likely couldn't get seeds from them in time for this swap Sad (Maybe next year!)
"I am still learning"~~ Michelangelo
National Gardening Association
EricaBraun
Dec 5, 2014 1:56 PM CST
Name: Erica Braun
Benicia, CA
Look at all of us cat lovers wanting to spoil our babies!

There definitely are not many sources for that cat thyme. Besides the one in Canada, I found one place in the US that spells the plants only, no seeds. I guess it is lack of knowledge about the plant. I think if more people knew about it, there would be more demand, and hence, more supply.
ImageSorellina
Dec 5, 2014 1:59 PM CST
Name: Julianna
Victoria, BC USDA Zone 8
Oh my goodness, I can now report that I'm officially DONE with all of my garden chores for the season! Hurray! I've been outside for the last 3 hours getting the mock orange pruned, the mint, oregano, and lovage cut down, and the remaining annuals and blue popcorn pulled. Hurray! I'm sure all of you except for those whose seasons never really end can relate to the amazing feeling of peace that brings a gardener. I don't like unfinished business outside. My vacation has now started. Hurray!
Grazie a tutti,
Julianna
Imagejoseph
Dec 5, 2014 2:05 PM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity

Sorellina: The day I till my fields in the fall is when I consider the growing season to be done... It's a great feeling for me. Problem is that same day or the next day I start planting next year's crops. And it seem like seed processing never ends.

Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
ImageArleneB
Dec 5, 2014 2:14 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
Are you planting cover crops Joseph?
ImageSorellina
Dec 5, 2014 2:27 PM CST
Name: Julianna
Victoria, BC USDA Zone 8
Yeah the seed processing doesn't end. I did not offer a lot of my really small seeds this time around because of that. While this season was not one of the best, I harvested more seed than usual across the board. Fermenting tomato seed is a bit of work, but threshing small dry seed is something I do in the winter while watching movies.
Grazie a tutti,
Julianna
ImageJonnaSudenius
Dec 5, 2014 2:45 PM CST
Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe
I know Star published the rules for sending the seeds, I even printed it, but I can't find it anymore. Grumbling
My memory is so bad at the moment Crying
If someone knows the link to it, please post it
ImageArleneB
Dec 5, 2014 2:54 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
Jonna, at the very beginning of the oinking thread #6 (current one) I believe is what you are looking for

http://cubits.org/ellasgarden/thread/view/80638/
ImageJonnaSudenius
Dec 5, 2014 3:09 PM CST
Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe
Thank you Arlene , but that's not the one I'm looking for, There was a post that was all bolded. It said something more about packing the seeds and adding some more info for Ella
ImageArleneB
Dec 5, 2014 3:10 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
okay, I'll look again
Imagejoseph
Dec 5, 2014 3:11 PM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity

ArleneB: Thanks for asking. I've been meaning to do the math on cover crops.

I generally get my fields tilled the day before winter snow cover arrives... (which is a great time for planting winter rye).

It would require about 200 pounds of winter rye or wheat to seed my fields with a cover crop. So I either have to buy that, or grow it myself. I don't know if I'd be up to manually harvesting a patch of rye 100 feet long and 17 feet wide. Unless I hooked up with a farmer that would sell me bulk seed straight from the combine, it's too pricey to buy seed for cover crops.

Or perhaps I could get clever about how I grow rye... What if I grew rye as a companion crop with everything that I grow? And it took up about 1% to 2% of the growing space in the garden? That would produce the required number of seeds to fully plant a cover crop. Then in the fall I could just till the fields under whenever I get around to it, and the rye would germinate and create a lush cover crop for the winter. I already do that sorta, because the wheat and rye volunteer wherever I grew the patch last year. With this type of scenario I'd only have to harvest a pound or two of seed in order to replant the crop next year. That would sure change the appearance of my garden...

Thanks ArleneB. That was just the question I needed to figure out how to start growing cover crops.
Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse

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