Cottage Gardening forum: 2014 Seed Swap Chatter #4

 
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ImageArleneB
Dec 5, 2014 3:24 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
Duh! I forget you are much larger scale! We plant crimson clover early fall and winter wheat/rye (very small amounts) and in summer we use buckwheat. Dual purpose since we also have bees. Best honey is the spring honey!

So what are you planting after you till in the fall?
ImageArleneB
Dec 5, 2014 3:41 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
Jonna, I found another post from Ella but it's not all bold

Post #1104024

I dont' know how to go to a specific post. Can anyone help?
ImageArleneB
Dec 5, 2014 3:42 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
Try this:

http://cubits.org/ellasgarden/thread/view_post/1104024/
ImageJonnaSudenius
Dec 5, 2014 4:01 PM CST
Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe
That might be the one, but as I remember from earlier years, we had to note on every package for every piggy how many packets were sent in for each piggy.
I'm packing now, but wonder what to do with the 'gifts'. Starlight please let me know.
Sorry, I hope my mind will be clear again next year, so I won't have to bother you with this again *Blush*
ImageDanita
Dec 5, 2014 4:22 PM CST
Name: Danita
GA Zone 7b/8
Jonna,

On my packs, I always have a total for the number of oinked seeds in the pack and a separate total for the gift packs included.

Here's an example from last year:
Thumb of 2014-12-05/Danita/ecd7ed

(ignore the squiggly lines. That was spell-check in the word document. The real labels didn't have that. Hilarious! )

Also, we aren't required to list the names of every seed like I did. I just did that last year for the first time, I believe.
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ImageArleneB
Dec 5, 2014 4:26 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
Wow, I missed that part last year. Oops. I'll make sure I do it this year.
ImageDanita
Dec 5, 2014 4:58 PM CST
Name: Danita
GA Zone 7b/8
Oh, one thing I meant to mention for anyone doing the Part 2-One to One trading. Be sure to put your name, like " from Danita," clearly visible on each pack of seeds you send in for Part 2, or you will get your own seeds back. Ella has far too many packs of seed to deal with to remember where each one originated. ^_^

Also, on the Part 1, I really like when the sender includes their name on, at least, each piggy's bag of seed.
I usually put my name on each individual seed pack, too, just in case someone has questions or something.
FYI, the long-haulers usually have to have their seeds pooled together in one big bag to save on postage so they wouldn't know where gift-surprises came from unless listed on the individual packet.

Smiling
Imagetcs1366
Dec 5, 2014 5:30 PM CST
Name: Terese
Leesburg, FL zone9b
Wisconsin Dells Area, zone4
Danita... one year i sent a ton of extra seeds, and even though my name was on it, I got a few of them back. Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing

BUT -- Ella does say, something about no more than 3 seed packs from each seed or you will get it back. Hilarious!
Also -- I think that year she was donating seeds for others -- so i sent a lot of extras.
Terese -- Leesburg, FL & Lake Delton, Wi
My Email is my userID at hotmail.com

Imagejoseph
Dec 5, 2014 6:05 PM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity

In the fall after I till my fields I plant.

Jerusalem artichokes,
winter wheats,
winter rye,
Austrian winter peas,
garlic,
I usually transplant the parsnip seed bed.

And some experimental crops that I am working on for winter hardiness:
spinach
shelling peas.
Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
ImageDanita
Dec 5, 2014 6:07 PM CST
Name: Danita
GA Zone 7b/8
Rolling on the floor laughing Yea, it doesn't guarantee that you won't get a few back but your odds are better anyway. Big Yellow Grin

Now, all bets are off in Part 3/Bottom of the Barrel. You get what you get. I haven't done that part in years, though.

I usually send in some extras but only ask for a few surprises back in return. After you've oinked so many packs, you don't really need any more. Hilarious!
ImageArleneB
Dec 5, 2014 6:41 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
Joseph, you can transplant parsnips? I had no idea! I have a hard time getting them to germinate. I planted some Labor Day weekend and some did germinate but I doubt whether I'll get any to grow. We'll see.

Austrian winter peas? Sounds interesting. I may have to try some of them, that is, of course, if they would even grow down here. And spinach with no protection? All sounds very interesting!
Imagejoseph
Dec 5, 2014 7:12 PM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity
I only transplant parsnips after their first growing season. I dig them so that I can evaluate how well the roots meet my needs. The second growing season they flower. I am working on "turnip shaped" roots for the parsnips, so that I can dig them in spite of the hard silty/clay soil.
Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
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Imagejoseph
Dec 5, 2014 7:16 PM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity

Here's my supper for tonight, and breakfast and lunch for tomorrow...

Thumb of 2014-12-06/joseph/409f55

I'm only expecting two more harvests this fall: Mushrooms, and walnuts.


Thumb of 2014-12-06/joseph/c1923a
Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
ImageArleneB
Dec 5, 2014 7:30 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
Hurray!
EricaBraun
Dec 5, 2014 10:17 PM CST
Name: Erica Braun
Benicia, CA
My list is closing in about 40 mins. If anyone wants anything, now's your last chance. (If you are an oinkless piggy, like me, feel free to request a bonus pack from me, via cmail).
Weedwhacker
Dec 5, 2014 10:59 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Michigan UP (Zone 4b or 5a)
Danita and tcs1366 (Terese), thank you for the info about the seed packets, as a new piggy that is very helpful!

So, on my packets I have my real name, my "screen name" (Weedwhacker), my address, and the common and scientific names of the seed. Then I've been putting whatever packets a given piggy has oinked in a baggy, with a file card listing the seeds oinked and the piggy's name. And I could note "gift" if appropriate with each seed. How does that sound -- any suggestions?? Should I be putting the recipient piggy's name on each packet?

Also -- I know Star explained this somewhere -- for "bottom of the barrel, can I just send extra seeds for that even if I don't want any in return?

Danita wrote: "I usually send in some extras but only ask for a few surprises back in return. After you've oinked so many packs, you don't really need any more."

How do you do that, exactly? I definitely feel that way, what more could I possible need???

Erica the cat thyme seems to be quite an attractive plant, as well as nice for our kitties... I'm really looking forward to trying it!
"I am still learning"~~ Michelangelo
National Gardening Association
ImageDanita
Dec 6, 2014 12:20 AM CST
Name: Danita
GA Zone 7b/8
Weedwhacker

On the individual seed packets you really only need the plant's name (both scientific & common is preferred, if known) and the year the seed was collected or purchased if it's commercial. Putting your "screen name" aka "username" is really helpful for those receiving oinked-for seed. I personally prefer it, but I don't believe it's a rule. People may want to add it for the non-USA piggies, though, since their seed often gets repackaged to save on postage. However, it's really important for any seed sent in for Part 2-One for One swap so that you are less likely to get your own seed back. Ask how I know! Hilarious!

I personally wouldn't put my last name or home address on anything (unless it is something that Ella has requested that she needs.) The piggies have all been good piggies so far, but you just never know. No need to change anything as long as you're comfortable with it, I guess. I may just be a little paranoid. Hilarious!

You asked: "Should I be putting the recipient piggy's name on each [seed] packet? "
No, there is no need to do so, but you can if you want. Just make sure that the seed packets are securely sealed inside the piggy's baggie and that the index card you're using has the piggy's name very clearly written in large letters.

I would note which seeds are gifts.

A very important bit of info that Ella needs on each piggy's baggie (written on the index card in your case) is the number of "oinks" that are included in the bag. This is seed that was requested by the receiving piggy and not gifts. I think she also prefers that you include the number of "gifts" as well on a separate line. If this is forgotten, then Ella has to open each baggie and count the number of seed packs inside and that is not a nice thing to do to her! Make sure the "oink" tally is clearly written in large letters and numbers. Such as:

To: Weedwacker

Total Oinks = 11

Gifts = 2

Regarding the "extras," I usually just put them in one bag and include a big note on bright paper that say something like " 33 packs of extras included, Please only use 10 packs for Part2 and send me 10 packs back, use the remaining 23 however you need." She may prefer that they be packed differently or separately, but she'll have to answer that. To be on the safe side, you may want to pack the number of packs that you want to use in the Part2 in one bag with a note. Then put the extras that you just want to give away in another bag with a note. I think the most important part is clearly labeling everything.

You know how bleary-eyed you can get after staying up for way too long working on a project, like cramming for a test, finishing up wrapping Christmas presents on Christmas Eve night or similar? I figure that poor Ella likely gets that way after staring at and shuffling thousands of seed packs for days on end. If all the important info is very clearly written in large letters and numbers, then she can process it at a glance. That can only make her job a little easier. ^_^

If you need any other bit of info, let me know and I'll help if I can. Big Grin
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ImageJonnaSudenius
Dec 6, 2014 2:31 AM CST
Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe
Thank you Danita Lovey dubby it's clear to me now.
ImageSorellina
Dec 6, 2014 6:14 AM CST
Name: Julianna
Victoria, BC USDA Zone 8
Good morning Piggies!

My database is now closed, but please make sure your wish lists are up to date because I'll be checking those before I ship my box to Ella. Thumbs up
Grazie a tutti,
Julianna
ImageSorellina
Dec 6, 2014 6:26 AM CST
Name: Julianna
Victoria, BC USDA Zone 8
Awesome information, Danita, particularly for new participants. I will just add that my labels for each packet of seed have my full name, my screen name, the name of the seed, and my email address. I've gotten correspondence from lots of swappers over the years when they have questions about the seeds - sometimes they want the story behind an heirloom or they live in a much different zone and want to be sure they can grow it successfully. Whatever, I figure it's very helpful to have that link back to the grower.
Grazie a tutti,
Julianna

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