Cottage Gardening forum: 2014 Seed Swap Chatter #4

 
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Imagegardengus
Dec 13, 2014 10:38 AM CST
Name: Cinda
Indiana Zone 5a
Truth is worth finding
Tansy is a good repellant plant for cabbage worms ,I don't grow it in the same bed tansy can be rather a perennial bully. I do cut the tansy and lay the leaves on the soil rather like a mulch.
also wasps love the worms , when I am in the garden in the summer I see wasps go down into the cabbage leaves and come out with green worms so I leave wasp nests alone whenever possible.
ImageSorellina
Dec 13, 2014 10:45 AM CST
Name: Julianna
Victoria, BC USDA Zone 8
Good morning almost afternoon, piggies!

Really awesome news - my box is on its way AND everything fit including Part II! I didn't know until everything was packed whether it was going to work, but thank God it did. Hurray!

Grazie a tutti,
Julianna
ImageDanita
Dec 13, 2014 11:11 AM CST
Name: Danita
GA Zone 7b/8
Christine,

Was the leaf damage tiny holes in the leaf or spots where the chlorophyll was sucked out? The first scenario could possibly be Flea Beetles and the second Potato Leafhoppers. Leafhopper nymphs can be hard to see and they move and jump quickly. I'm not sure about the bug in your photo, but it appears to be a nymph phase of something. The shape reminds me of a Lacewing nymph but they are usually browner. Shrug!
Imagestarlight1153
Dec 13, 2014 11:20 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
If your talking about that tiny bug that sticking part way off the edge of one leaf, it way to tiny for me to see what it is, but looks like it might be some leaffooted type of bug.

This is what I like to see. I did let a tomato horn worm munch away on one tomato plant as you could see the predator egg sac on it's back.

Kinda hard to see this little worm munching away on a snapdragon, but you can see the big white egg on it's back.


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Sometimes, I don't kill all the worms munching and crunching away as you need to have them for the natural predators to come and lay their eggs and the larvae to have food to grow and develop to keep the pest populations down.

Hummmmmmm.. Interesting Cinda. I have some Tansy seed, guess I need to get it planted and try it as a mulch.

here an article some of you may find interesting.

http://www.examiner.com/article/tansy-and-rue-are-two-of-my-...
patrob
Dec 13, 2014 11:42 AM CST
Name: Patricia
Central TX 7b/8a
Star If you have any left, I'd like some of your echie mix too.
Imagewildflowers
Dec 13, 2014 12:15 PM CST
Name: Christine
Northeast Texas, Zone 7b
Yep, I see that white egg, Star.

Danita, crazy thing is it was both spotted damage and entire leaves being munched away! I was thinking it could be some kind of beneficial nymph or a pest. No telling I guess.

I waited to dust the plant with diatomaceous earth until after I brought it in because I always worry that a ladybug or something might get on there and I don't want to accidently take out any of them or other beneficials. Athough DE is non-poison, it doesn't descriminate between pests and beneficials.
Shine Your Light

ImageDanita
Dec 13, 2014 12:31 PM CST
Name: Danita
GA Zone 7b/8
Hmmm, entire leaves sound like Tomato Hornworm. Since they are the same family, I'd investigate tomato and eggplant pests to see what damage fits. You may have had more than one type of culprit, too. Shrug!
Imagestarlight1153
Dec 13, 2014 12:54 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Patrob Sure may. Have plenty for you too. Big Grin
Imagewildflowers
Dec 13, 2014 1:00 PM CST
Name: Christine
Northeast Texas, Zone 7b
I thought I'd post this in case anyone is interested in helping Zany put her Feb. puzzle calendar together ~ Lovey dubby

http://cubits.org/PlaypenGraphics/articles/view/1580/
Shine Your Light

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Imagepmb2005
Dec 13, 2014 4:21 PM CST
Name: Promise
Zone 7a Tennessee
Star, May I please have some of your Echie Mix?

Debbie, thank you for sharing your experience.

Sorellina, glad you got everything in your package you wanted to. I know I oinked up some of your stuff! I'm waiting on pins and needles here for your recipes!!! I was telling my hubby about what you and your hubby do. Now you've got me wanting to try Lemon Drop Peppers!!
Imagestarlight1153
Dec 13, 2014 5:25 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Promise .. Will send some echie mix your way too. Big Grin Big Grin
Imagetcs1366
Dec 14, 2014 11:00 AM CST
Name: Terese
Leesburg, FL zone9b
Wisconsin Dells Area, zone4
I've been thinking about Jonna's sowing with vermiculite ... I dont have any in the garage, but I have perlite -- can it also be used for sowing?

~~ I'm going to try to dig a few plants to take to FL since the ground is thawed and all i have is perlite and peat, no potting soil at all.
I can probably mix those with soil as i have a huge dirt pile out back, though it will have weed seeds in it.
Terese -- Leesburg, FL & Lake Delton, Wi
My Email is my userID at hotmail.com

Imagerisingcreek
Dec 14, 2014 12:55 PM CST
Name: kacee
southern california
has anyone grown Strawberry Spinach (Chenopodium capitatum) ? plant looks interesting and says can be used as a spinach substitute. is it easy to grow? will it grow where it gets really hot in the summer? (100+)

after all the swap activity I cannot stop myself from looking at seeds for sale. I am hopelessly addicted

thanks
ImageMistirose
Dec 14, 2014 1:36 PM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
Perlite wont have the water retention that vermiculite does. But never hurts to try, just keep an eye on moisture.
Imagetcs1366
Dec 14, 2014 1:57 PM CST
Name: Terese
Leesburg, FL zone9b
Wisconsin Dells Area, zone4
Thanks Misti.
Terese -- Leesburg, FL & Lake Delton, Wi
My Email is my userID at hotmail.com

ImageJonnaSudenius
Dec 14, 2014 2:16 PM CST
Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe
tcs1366 wrote:I've been thinking about Jonna's sowing with vermiculite ... I dont have any in the garage, but I have perlite -- can it also be used for sowing?

~~ I'm going to try to dig a few plants to take to FL since the ground is thawed and all i have is perlite and peat, no potting soil at all.
I can probably mix those with soil as i have a huge dirt pile out back, though it will have weed seeds in it.


It won't work the same. Usually perlite is used in mixes. Not sure whether pure perlite will work the same in closed containers. It will sure not work mixed with any soil in closed containers.
Vermiculite is really not expensive. 100 Liters (26 gallon) cost about $ 20 -25 and it will last forever if you keep it dry. And you can reuse it. Not to sow in it again, because not germinated seeds can germinate next year and you won't know what came up. But I reuse it in the containers with plants to prevent them from drying out on hot summerdays. Or you can reuse it in dryer parts of your garden to keep it a bit more moist.
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plantnutz
Dec 14, 2014 2:28 PM CST
Name: Brenda
7b
I'm missing the swap! That was so much fun. When I drop by I am disappointed if there's nothing new.
Imagetcs1366
Dec 14, 2014 2:34 PM CST
Name: Terese
Leesburg, FL zone9b
Wisconsin Dells Area, zone4
Thanks Jonna.

I'll pick up a bag when I get back home to FL then.

I'll just use the perlite with the peat to get plants dig, potted and to FL.
Terese -- Leesburg, FL & Lake Delton, Wi
My Email is my userID at hotmail.com

Imagechristine00
Dec 14, 2014 2:35 PM CST
Name: christine
kentucky

plantnutz wrote:I'm missing the swap! That was so much fun. When I drop by I am disappointed if there's nothing new.

I agree Lovey dubby
EricaBraun
Dec 14, 2014 2:41 PM CST
Name: Erica Braun
Benicia, CA
I agree For sure. That was such a blast and I got used to keeping up with the oinking thread and chatter thread that it's kind of strange to not see much action anymore.

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