Cottage Gardening forum: 2014 Seed Swap Chatter #5.........ANTICIPATION

 
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ImageJonnaSudenius
Jan 2, 2015 2:16 PM CST
Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe
The botanical name of Hops is Humulus lupulus
Imagerisingcreek
Jan 2, 2015 2:56 PM CST
Name: kacee
southern california
sometimes I struggle to read my own writing
Imagestarlight1153
Jan 3, 2015 7:46 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Yuck.. Another wet and drizzly day so far. We have them major storms and will be back under tornado warnings later this evening again til sometime Sunday or Monday. If weather bad, I will be off line.

Thanks Jonna for the information.

Hey Joseph... I notice in a lot of your pics that you have a small spectrum in pics, I guess you would call it. What do you use it for?

I have a bunch of beans that I want to start this year, weather permitting. For the pole beans I have been thinking of putting some short rebar poles into the ground and using some pvc pipe. I think I have enough connectors that I could put side rails on and cut them up shorter as I go. Just need to figure out how to secure the tops together. A 20' piece of 3/4" pvc pipe is about 2 bucks and I am thinking 2 of them would be enough to make one stand . Lots cheaper than wood for sure.

I have tried bamboo before since it was free for all I wanted. But even digging some holes and trying to bury it with the fierce winds we get they don't stay up and with so much humidity and rains the bamboo stalks mold.

Anybody got any cheap tricks they gonna try for making more room in their gardens or economizing?

One year, I was on this forum and I watched a major grower who didn't have enough room in her garden for all she wanted to do and she took bags of composted manure from store and laid them down like the drive and planted her tink it was squash or watermelons in the center of the bag and just let them grow that way. They produced and it was neat to see and saved her a bunch of room .

Imagepmb2005
Jan 3, 2015 9:29 AM CST
Name: Promise
Zone 7a Tennessee
Hello Everyone!

Happy Unbirthday Jonna!

Today we may have started the first step in bee keeping. After seeing that episode about it on "This Old House" it's been on my mind and my teenager is interested in learning! Obviously bee keeping would be a very wise idea with all these plants we're trying to get going. Very exciting!!

The tiller is munching the ground like a champ. It's working way better than when we bought it because they had a stretched out belt on their when we brought it home. Our garden space we've been amending for 2 years looks fantastic!!! I think I will do my early veggies there and then when they are done, sow melons. I hope that is a good idea.

I'm going to have to leave my nest a go find lights and vermiculite! I'm so ready to get growing!!! Have a terrific weekend everyone!!!

Promise :) Group hug
Weedwhacker
Jan 3, 2015 9:46 AM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Michigan UP (Zone 4b or 5a)
JonnaSudenius wrote:The botanical name of Hops is Humulus lupulus


Darn, Jonna beat me to it -- you really have to love this botanical name! Smiling

Star, how tall of a trellis are you thinking of making with the PVC? It seems like it might be kind of floppy to use that way... Maybe you could use the bamboo by pounding some short pieces of PVC, with a larger diameter than the bamboo, into the ground and slipping the bamboo poles into them?

"I am still learning"~~ Michelangelo
National Gardening Association
Imagestarlight1153
Jan 3, 2015 10:06 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Sandy... I was thinking of maybe 5 to 6 feet. Was thinking of making a design kinda like them 3 sided big in the sky power towers.

Your just the person I am looking for. What do you mean by dye plants in your wish list and got some names of some plants ya can give em?

Promise Have fun and good luck on the light and vermiculite hunt. Usually best places to find vermiculite this time of year is in small garden center shops that carry supplies. Of course they charge up the nose for it.

Check out some feed stores. Like here we have a BW Caps. It mainly a hardware store that carries supplies for animals and such on side, but some do carry planting stuff if they sell plants at all. Helps to ask if they will or can order in too.

ImageDanita
Jan 3, 2015 10:18 AM CST
Name: Danita
GA Zone 7b/8
Promise, If you're near Knoxville you can check Griffin Greenhouse Supplies for the vermiculite.
http://www.griffins.com/info/contact.asp
ImageJonnaSudenius
Jan 3, 2015 10:54 AM CST
Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe
It's much cheaper to buy the 'industrial' vermiculite. That is what I use too.
In the US you can buy it at companies that sell building supplies or swimming pool installers. Also some Home depot stores sell it.
A 100 liter bag will cost between $ 20 and $ 30. You can fill about 300 containers with a bag.
Imagejoseph
Jan 3, 2015 1:27 PM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity
Star: I use the color wheel in my photos for a few reasons...

1- The rainbow colors offer a visual clue about how accurately my camera and computers are rendering the colors of the vegetables. I first started using color wheels when my camera was less sophisticated. It helped get the color balance right, both by providing more colors for the auto-adjustments to work with, and making it easier to apply manual fixes.
2- The calibration card also contains a grid calibrated in mm, so that it can be used to judge the size of fruits and seeds. That helps the auto-focus feature on the camera work better.
3- I think it looks really pretty, even if what I am taking a photo of is boring.
4- It's become part of my reputation.

I have a template. Public Domain by the way, that I take to the copy store and have them print and laminate cards for me.
http://garden.lofthouse.com/images/tools/grid.doc
http://garden.lofthouse.com/images/tools/grid.odt

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Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
Imagejoseph
Jan 3, 2015 1:47 PM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity

Economizing in the garden? Hmmm.

My biggest struggle with gardening is that I commute to my fields. Sucks to be me. I'm tied to my village, but my woman isn't so I split my life between the two. I try to economize on gasoline by working in the fields for several days in a row.

I used to spend more than $1000 per year on seed. These days I grow my own seed, and participate in the hoggy swap and a few other swaps to source new species.

I never use pesticides in my garden. It is exceedingly rare for me to use fertilizer. The only compost I use is what the farm makes for itself.

Affording diesel for the tractor is a constant struggle. And equipment break downs are a pain to deal with. I economize by using older equipment, but then it's more prone to breaking...
Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
Imagepmb2005
Jan 3, 2015 3:02 PM CST
Name: Promise
Zone 7a Tennessee
Lowes sold me 1.5 cu ft bags of vermiculite for $8 a piece. They were having issues with holes in there bags so I asked if they'd put them in recovery bags and mark them down for me. That was a nice score. We bought 2 shop lights, enough to get 1 row of the plant stand going. Ella, do you have to get a permit to sell at the farmers market? Usually you have to pay to set up shop there, but do you need other licensing?

Danita Thank you for the link, that place looks awesome! You'd better believe I'm going to check that place out better. We're wanting to build a greenhouse in the near future and they appear to have stuff to help us build and many other tricks of the trade. Thank you again!
ImageJonnaSudenius
Jan 3, 2015 3:08 PM CST
Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe
If you only use part of the vermiculite, you can store the vermiculite on a dry place forever, so you can use it the next year(s).
Imagerisingcreek
Jan 3, 2015 3:45 PM CST
Name: kacee
southern california
star

I have scrounged old crutches from people and bought some very cheap at yard sales. I put the bottom part in the ground and run baling twine between them for peas and other light weight climbing veggies. not the prettiest but works. I also use hog panels(a gift).
ImageArleneB
Jan 3, 2015 6:33 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
Promise, different areas have different rules so you need to ask at the location you are planning to sell at. I used to have to have a plant license to sell live plants but GA changed the rules and I no longer need a license.
ImageArleneB
Jan 4, 2015 3:45 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
Just got back this morning around 3:30 from MI. Looks like LOTS of rain while we were gone, like 10"! Everything is spongy. We went to the farm and the lettuce was doing really well. We got 2 huge bags and two small broccoli heads as well as some radishes. This is the Green Ice lettuce we were talking about earlier.
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Imagestarlight1153
Jan 4, 2015 4:40 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Arlene Glad to see you checking in. Was just coming over here to find out how our GA folks was doing since I got phone call this morning and they said tornado had touched down but didn't have any other info and still got half hour or so til evening news comes on.

Pretty..pretty veggies. I didn't realize we could grow lettuce out now. Th cold and frost doesn't kill it back? I can't wait to try it. Now is that a whole bunch of plants together or just a few making that big of a patch?

Growing up we grew radishes. They always got thin sliced and put on a salad. That is the only thing I know what to do with them. Is there other ways to utilize them? Seems liek that one veggie nobody hardly grows any more other than for eating the greens off em.

I think the storms are done for a bit and now we going back to frost and cold again. I am getting so tired of clothes on and clothes off.

Joseph... About the time you ready to get started we're just about done and ready to be harvesting.
ImageArleneB
Jan 4, 2015 5:04 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
Ella, I saw where there were possibility of tornados. While we were gone we got about 10" of rain! Everything is soggy.

That is several plants of lettuce. I was lazy and just sprinkled the seeds instead of starting plugs. It works either way. Some people just cut it when it's that close, but we like to pinch, leaf by leaf. If I plant in a 3 1/2' wide row, 7 across, it fills in nicely. I planted that lettuce Labor Day weekend. I do utilize a floating row cover but often it blows off. Lettuce will take a freeze if you just leave it, it thaws and is just fine. It sure is loving all this rain.

I grew up eating lots of radishes. Not just in salad but just to snack on. DH and I tried to roast them with other root veggies and they were delicious. I know a lot of people don't eat them but I like the spicy bite. Most of mine are pretty mild. Maybe I'll let some go to seed this year and save for next year's swap.
plantnutz
Jan 4, 2015 5:36 PM CST
Name: Brenda
7b
I'd be in line for some radish seed Arlene. I love radishes! I tried some last year but they got too big and cracked on me before I harvested.
Imagestarlight1153
Jan 4, 2015 5:52 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
AGGGGGGGGG!!! Just seen the weather report. Nasty arctic cold front coming in. Can't believe today was 70F and tomorrow morning will be in the high 20's for a couple of day and come wed that front will hit here and I'll be in the 20's for the high for the day and single digits for at night.

It's almost like last year. Well, gonna be like last year where we lost all our perennials and other plants as we not equipped for this kind of weather. Yep time to start looking for a warmer place to live. Can't or rather won't go further into Fl cuz I too afraid of all them snakes and cros and such they have.

Looks like everybody better start protecting pipes and such and plants as well.

I'll toss someradishes your way Plantbutz... Tons of it came in this year. Guess it better than 10,000 Crape Myrtle seeds. Hilarious!
Imagejoseph
Jan 4, 2015 6:14 PM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity

Star: I've just put a mailing together to send seeds to a lady in Mississippi. I'm sending her very precious (to me) seed from the promiscuously pollinated tomato project. I'm sending her F1 hybrid seed. She's going to try to grow them up and return seed to me so that I can plant them in late May. If successful, that will save me a year on my project.
Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse

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