Cottage Gardening forum: 2014 Seed Swap Chatter #5.........ANTICIPATION

 
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ImageMistirose
Jan 4, 2015 6:44 PM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
Just planted about 70 onion seeds, a couple Globe Artichokes and some Garlic Chives. I also transplanted my seriously root bound baby kales lol
Deebie
Jan 4, 2015 8:01 PM CST
Name: Deborah
Orangeburg, SC Zone 8a
Don't Sweat the Small Stuff!
Ella, me, me, me too. When I first started gardening, I grew some radishes. But like a newbie, I grew a bigger garden than I could maintain, and just sort of got turned off by all the work to required maintain it. Thumbs down I too grew up eating radishes in salads and love the peppery taste. I just haven't been buying any. They were so easy to grow. I don't know why I never bothered to try growing them again. If you have some left, please save some for me. I'd love to grow some radishes again. Thumbs up I miss that taste in my salads. Drooling
ImageMistirose
Jan 4, 2015 8:10 PM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
I have read to grow radishes with your carrots to mark the rows. I'm reducing space in the garden by growing more Determinate and dwarf types of tomatoes this year.
ImageArleneB
Jan 4, 2015 9:11 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
I'm wondering if some perennials won't start adapting to the colder winters down here? I was more concerned about the ground being so saturated and then the arctic blast coming and freezing the ground. I have one bed totally saturated and I'm sure I'll lose some things there.

I haven't started any seeds yet but I'm hoping to this weekend.
Imagewildflowers
Jan 5, 2015 8:53 AM CST
Name: Christine
Northeast Texas, Zone 7b
I haven't started any seeds yet either. I usually don't start until Feb. but maybe I'm waiting too long... need to check and see what I should start.

In Feb. is when I start all my peppers. Those I start indoors, plant them in small six packs, or other small containers covered with plastic bags and put them on top of the freezer. It seems to warm up just enough for the peppers to sprout. And the plastic bags fit over the top like a little greenhouse but still can get some air flow. After they sprout, I'll take the plastic bags off and move them to a sunnier location.
FAITH over fear!

ImageSorellina
Jan 5, 2015 9:00 AM CST
Name: Julianna
Victoria, BC USDA Zone 8
Mistirose, (and anyone else this applies to)

If you remember, please mark down on your wish list that you would like dwarf and determinate tomatoes. That kind of information is very helpful when filling wishes. My inventory includes over 1000 different tomatoes, so knowing what people prefer means I can better match what I have to what you are looking for.

I'm not ready to plant anything yet. I'm hoping to start on my gardening "dishes" (pots, inserts, trays) this week. I still have a few gourds and small squash to seed as well. Threshing is going well, though! I already have enough basils and amaranth for next year's swap!

Oh another thing: if you can remember, please mark anything from me that did not come up for you. That is also very helpful information. When I first started saving basil seed, I didn't know just how long the seed needed to mature on the plant before harvesting so germination was spotty with that seed. The ones I have been threshing have been much better. I still have some of the Aromatto that I offered in 2013, but you will need to sow heavy to get good results.
Grazie a tutti,
Julianna
Imagestarlight1153
Jan 5, 2015 9:04 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Deebie Sure can.

Misti Makes good sense. Maybe the heat from a radish would keep bunnies out of the carrots too. Ya never know.

Arelene Yep, it a cold one today, but the sun trying to shine and I gonna go out and try and get some extra plastic up over the pernnials I moved into gh. I still got hundreds of dead pots that need dumped from this mess like we had last winter. Only difference is I think we may not have all the snow this time, which will make it worse.

We close to spring yet so far away too. Gotta get out today and get more pipes wrapped, cuz they will be bursting for sure. Gotta bring in and get antifreeze in bathroom not being used.

This is what so hard for us sounthern folks is we have to do so much to try and protect our plants cuz we dont have the snow for isulation and than a few days later we may have to come back and un-cover everything cuz we bounce back up to 70's. It a major roller coaster here.

As for the perennials adapting. Maybe if they get snow for insulation other wise probably not. The few perennilas that I did have survive it took almost all the way to fall for them to actually come out of shock and now it coming again. A day or two I think they may be ok. But if get week or better, I not hoping for the best.

Which while I thinking about plants that survived. Did your Pela ..what a micall it. Forget full name right now. Head fogged bloom and make any seed? That one that will die if not in nice warm house or gh for sure. The cowns and stems rot big time. I forgot that was one I wanted to put on wish list. Oh well, maybe I can find seed somewhere of it.
ImageMistirose
Jan 5, 2015 11:15 AM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
Thanks Sorellina, I do have them on my wishlist this year. Holy smokes that's a lot of tomato seeds! Blinking
ImageArleneB
Jan 5, 2015 12:00 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
Ella, I'm gonna take a stab at guessing what plant you meant. Plectanthrus? Indian Coleus?
Imagewildflowers
Jan 5, 2015 12:46 PM CST
Name: Christine
Northeast Texas, Zone 7b
Ella, if its Coleus plectanthrus, I thought I put an extra oink of those in with my extras... maybe not since they were just starting to put out seed when I sent my package. If that IS what you're looking for, I have seeds to send you. Thumbs up
FAITH over fear!

Imagestarlight1153
Jan 5, 2015 12:47 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Yep Arlene... That's it. Wasn't it you that was able to grow it this year and was going to try and over winter it. I know it don't over winter and is an annual in most areas. Such a shame too cuz that has such beautiul blooms on it and the hummers like it too.
Imagewildflowers
Jan 5, 2015 12:56 PM CST
Name: Christine
Northeast Texas, Zone 7b
Okay, actually, I'm getting my names mixed up but sure it's Indian Coleus, Plectranthus barbatus aka, synonym Coleus forskohlii. I checked the bag and there's seed in the bottom. Smiling
FAITH over fear!

ImageArleneB
Jan 5, 2015 1:52 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
Yes, Wildflowers, that's it. Mine were set in the ground too late to flower or set seed. I dug up one and brought it inside but sadly, it looks like it died while I was gone. I do have a few leftover seeds so I'll start some again for this summer and make sure I put them out!
ImageRickCorey
Jan 5, 2015 2:14 PM CST
Name: Rick Corey
Pacific NorthWet Zone 8a
>> Our garden space we've been amending for 2 years looks fantastic!!!

Promise, you might find that after amending heavily and tilling for a few years, the soil will become good enough and so rich with worms that you won't need to till every year.

Someone pointed out that many species of worms "commute" every day from deep in the soil to near the surface. Their castings will mix amendments from the surface down into the soil, and their tunnels maintain and provide the aeration that tilling created.

And some species of worms commute to the surface, grab fragments of leaves, and drag them down into tunnels where the leaves finish composting underground (and, I assume, the worms finish eating them).

As long as you keep adding compost, worms will keep churning your soil.
Imagestarlight1153
Jan 5, 2015 2:46 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
I just found something neat and I wonder if it really true and if folks really did do it or those that do wild edibles have tried it yet.

I always have a bunch of seed that comes in that I have to look up. So I was looking up Hibiscus laevis and found this site so I could get more info and a pic to figure out who I was gonna toss it too and started reading.

This site.... http://www.wildflower.org/plants/result.php?id_plant=HILA2

says they used I guess it the sap from this plant with sugar to make marshmellows. Wonder if it true and if there a site that tells how. I don't have time to research , but it would be interesting to know. Grow your own candy store. Make your own peeps if it true. Rolling on the floor laughing
ImageRedLeopard
Jan 5, 2015 3:46 PM CST
Name: Ron
Naples, FL
Star, in a quick search I found this site that offered this information:

Quoting:According to Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, a marshmallow is:

1: a pink-flowered European perennial herb (Althaea officinalis) of the mallow family that is naturalized in the eastern U.S. and has a mucilaginous root sometimes used in confectionery and in medicine;

2: a confection made from the root of the marshmallow or from corn syrup, sugar, albumen, and gelatin beaten to a light spongy consistency

That word "mucilaginous" means "jelly-like." Later, the root was replaced by gelatin, and that is how modern marshmallows are made.


I think this is really interesting. Always thought the term "marshmallow" was strange. Now I know it comes from the Hibiscus relative Marsh Mallow (Althaea officinalis)!

Thanks for stirring up a bit of education!

Imagestarlight1153
Jan 5, 2015 4:17 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
I could be mistaken, but while in the same family I wonder how different the Althaea is from the Hibiscus laevis. I have eaten some of the Marsh Mallow blossoms before, can't think of the name of the cultivar off hand, but isn't the Althaea officinalis more of a shrub/tree than a plant?

I didn't realize the roots could be eaten on either plant. Blinking Confused

Once a year at piggy time, I get an education somewhat myself when looking up some of the names of the plants. I discover so many that I have never heard of before or even seen pictures of. I sometimes I wish I had about 100 acreas so I could just grow and grow . I'd love to have one of everything. Just one at least. Don't wanna be greedy. Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing

The Hibiscus laevis might be one for Joseph since it gets 6foot tall and he'll try anything that edible. Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing I figure if he can try and survive than the rest of us should be able to eat it too. Like the Mikey commercial. For our longhaulers. It is a joke from a commercial where the kids have bowls of cereal and they are afraid to taste it, so they give to the younger brother named Mikey and say "Give it to Mikey, he'll eat anything. "
ImageMistirose
Jan 5, 2015 5:51 PM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
they wont make the same fluffy white marshmallows we know. I have looked into them before.
Imagejoseph
Jan 5, 2015 6:32 PM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity

I have a wild marshmallow that grows as a weed on my farm. I have eaten the fruits my whole life. They are small, so not worth the effort to try to make a meal out of, but if I'm weeding, anything if fair game to go in my mouth. Sometimes I dig the roots, and chop them, and dry them, and use them in tea, or swap them with the local healers.

Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
Imagestarlight1153
Jan 6, 2015 7:34 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
chchchchchchchchch... brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Is there anybody who is not a frozen popsickle this morning? Dang and double dang is cold. And the worse is yet to come. Had to kick my front door open this morning so I could get the trash out for pick up. I would love to be sitting in front of a warm fire and toasting marshmallows about now. Guess I gonna settle for hot chocolate and whip cream.

Misti... I imagine it would be hard to make regular marshmellows without having and air machine like for making cotton candy, but did yours turn out like marshmellow cream that the recipe could be used for fudge making maybe?

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