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Jan 28, 2015 6:12 PM CST
Name: Ron
Naples, FL

Hurray! Hurray! Poison! I tip my hat to you.

We cross-posted before regarding the scarify/overnight soaking of the seed, but yours is a perfect example of the value with these seed.

Congratulations! How many of each did you sow?
Jan 28, 2015 6:31 PM CST
Name: Ron
Naples, FL
I have a wintersow/cold stratify question. I have never done either, but with a couple type seeds now see I need to. No wintersowing here in SW Florida, so that will have to happen in the refrigerator.

My question is this. On some, I will cold stratify more than I need, but will still have a fair amount leftover. If I store these in the refrigerator until next , will I still need to cold stratify (wet) next winter, or will the long cold storage be sufficient.

I purposely left out what kind of seed, as I'm looking for general information rather than specifics for one particular type of seed.
Jan 28, 2015 7:07 PM CST
Name: aka GardenQuilts
Facebook, NGA
and the beloved Winston the pug
I would only stratisfy the seeds you are going to sow right now. To stratisfy seeds in the refrigerator or freezer, you have to pretreat if necessary (nick, sand, soak, etc) then store them damp in the refrigerator or freezer. People use paper towels or vermiculite. Read the Dr. Deno books online. He is an expert in seed germination.

Just putting the seed packet in the fridge or freezer doesn't work as cold treatment.

I learned it the hard way with my first attempt to sow columbines and poppies. I put the brand new commercial seed packets in the freezer for cold treatment. I got no germination the first year. I winter sowed the leftover seed and got some germination. One poppy germinated the following spring, and I pulled it out thinking it was a weed.

Then I found some internet gardening groups and became a piggy. Read about how everyone was planting their seeds. I learned about wintersowing. I was skep[tical, but I had very little space to start seeds in my tiny townhome and lots of seeds from the piggies, so I wintersowed a little bit of every kind of seed that could be wintersowed, keeping at least half of the seeds to try some other way if this crazy thing didn't work. Well, I was amazed. I wintersow everything I can - one of the few advantages of being a zone 6 gardener.

I realize that you can't wintersow in most parts of Florida. So, you have to use the fridge. However, you can grow Jasmine and Gardenia outside!

Please save some seed from your Calibrochoa. I didn't realize until the swap that they can be grown from seed. I'll add them to my wish list next year. I tried to overwinter a mixed hanging planter with some Calibrochoa inside. It had a rough adjustment - didn't help that the deer ate the plants just before I brought them in. They are recovering slowly. I am not sure if they will make it.
Jan 28, 2015 7:16 PM CST
Name: LeBug 6b
Greenville, In.
Afraid Andi is right RedLeopard but if you want I'd be glad to trade zones with you Rolling on the floor laughing

Not doing the soda bottles Andi too much trouble I've got a great glue gun that my x hubby had for the phone co. if it doesn't go thru to make holes and it doesn't I'll just go get some more jugs I give I can just see me with no fingers I'm just not that coordinated better safe than sorry Rolling on the floor laughing
Jan 28, 2015 7:57 PM CST
Name: aka GardenQuilts
Facebook, NGA
and the beloved Winston the pug
I think some people use glue guns to melt soda bottles. You don't want to hurt yourself.

I like the soda bottles. They look like little greenhouses. A friend got me a bunch of those trays that hold 8 soda bottles. (His uncle drives a truck for supermarkets. Most are from discontinued soda flavors.). I planted a more wintersown containers today. Tonight, I am researching plants and making more labels.
Jan 28, 2015 8:08 PM CST
Name: Ron
Naples, FL

Thanks, Andi and LeBug Smiling

LeBug, I may just take you up on your offer come next hurricane! Hilarious!
Jan 28, 2015 8:26 PM CST
Name: Critter (Jill)
If you're melting holes in a bunch of plastic bottles/containers, remember you need good ventilation... the smoke from the burning plastic smells nasty, and I'd bet it is not good for you! I do mine on the stovetop, since I have a good exhaust fan.

I cut & holed a bunch of 1 liter bottles and milk jugs this afternoon, hoping to get them filled & labeled tomorrow. The excitement continues to build with all these lovely seeds!
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Jan 28, 2015 9:15 PM CST
Name: Cinda
Indiana Zone 5a
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Thumb of 2015-01-29/gardengus/ca06e4

The Lysimachia seeds were from me.
I have had success winter sowing them but find the plant a short lived perennial(3 years). think it may be in a too wet place for the winter.
sorry about not marking the package *Blush*
Jan 28, 2015 9:20 PM CST
Name: Erica Braun
Benicia, CA
Jonna -- I sent you Cmail.
Jan 28, 2015 10:36 PM CST
Name: Deborah
Orangeburg, SC Zone 8a
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Rising, I would definitely be interested in your Ceanothus arboreus seeds. I'm putting it on my wish list so that I don't forget about it.
Jan 28, 2015 10:44 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Michigan UP (Zone 4b or 5a)
We might need a whole new section of the seed swap, where southerners send their seeds to be winter sown to those of us that actually have a winter !! Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing

The "shotgun method" of sowing is certainly what I would call thinking outside the box... but I'd have a pretty low level of confidence that it would work very well.

Arlene, I'd love to hear how the calibrachoa does for you, I love those things but can't bring myself to buy the plants !
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Jan 28, 2015 10:58 PM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
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Jan 28, 2015 10:58 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
Sandy, I usually buy a few plants even though it about kills me, but I over winter them in the GH. I have tried taking cuttings with very little success so i was excited they now have seeds. So far, the kabloom red had excellent germination and the mix is looking good too. I also got a very pretty Crave Sunset but only three have germinated so far. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. They germinated faster than i expected too. Now I just have to get them to grow! I'll keep you posted.

BTW, the seeds were pretty expensive too. Hopefully they will eventually come down. Not sure if i will be able to collect seeds or not.

Oh, if there is something i really want to be winter sown I send Jen the seeds and she Ws for me and I pick up the plants in April!
Jan 28, 2015 10:59 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
Oh, three of the Electric blue penstemon have germinated so far, no cold stratification!
Jan 29, 2015 4:58 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
brrrrr.... 23F right now. A good morning just to hide under the covers. Some sun later today they say, but we'll see. Winds again, so no trying to burn a few leaves. Wouldn't be so bad if the wind didn't blow. It goes right through ya.

Arlene How about I just bring all my seed up to you. You can sprout it and than you can do yours. Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing

I feel like I am in the pickle. We have cold, but too many fluctuating temps, so winter sowing is out of the question, and because we get just enough cold, can't do and leave out tropicals or anything sensitive like that.

Quoting:We might need a whole new section of the seed swap, where southerners send their seeds to be winter sown to those of us that actually have a winter !! Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing

I hear ya. Good idea!
Jan 29, 2015 5:40 AM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
christine00 wrote:here are the pics of my shelves..Thumb of 2015-01-28/christine00/f0a6cb
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Thanks Christine. I see now that this isn't in your house, but in your GH. Cool idea!

I don't have a stove in mine. I have one in the house that I was thinking of using, but I envisioned some kind of metal connecting rods off to the side of the unit instead of suspended from the ceiling.
Jan 29, 2015 5:48 AM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
Jonna, my ISP only allows me to see videos when it feels like it, but it did play yours. I enjoyed it. Thumbs up
Jan 29, 2015 6:35 AM CST
Name: Alana
Redleopard I sowed 4 seeds each of the cream and pink Pride of Barbados and all germinated. I will handle these as I did the species and grow it in a pot for the first two years. After that they are too big for me to handle so I plant them in the ground for a season and then start over. The timing was perfect for these and were one of the highlights of the swap for me.
I sowed three Ipomoea carnea seeds and they have all germinated as well. The other one I sowed was the Stachytarpheta mutabilis. Out of 8 or 9 seeds sown probably half have emerged.
It is grand to read of all the piggy seeds sowing and growing.
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Jan 29, 2015 7:40 AM CST
Name: Lisa
Massachusetts zone 6
I'm envious!

Everyone is starting seeds and I am under 21/2 feet of snow here in Massachusetts and the temp. is a crisp 0!

I have not tried growing more than a couple of things indoors and have not had good luck doing it. I have a hibiscus going right now but I fear I'll lose it to damping off before I get it outside to the greenhouse. I saw someone posted to add cinnamon, can I do this now after it has sprouted?

I saw some people giving suggestions for bottom heat. I discovered accidently that the top of my coffee brewer is very warm. Of course, this is only good for 1 or 2 baggies with seeds BUT it worked well. I'm going to try putting a cookie sheet on top of it and see if it will warm the whole sheet. My husband will just love

I cmailed some of you last week to thank you, bt my neck issue flared up and I couldn't continue to send private cmails. So, if I missed you, I do appreciate you sharing with me and I look forward to growing my new treasures!

I saw some things on wants list that I do grow here but don'tcollect seeds from, I will in 2015 so I can them with those that are interested.

Has anyone heard from Bluespiral{Karen}

Jan 29, 2015 9:21 AM CST
Name: Ron
Naples, FL

I'm glad you sowed a group of each on the Pride of Barbados, Alana. I think I mentioned it somewhere before (though it's not in my database) that although the four colors are well-removed from one another in my yard, they are open pollinated so I can't rule out the possibility of some cross-pollination. Most should come true.

The Ipomoea carnea I would expect near perfect germination, but I always worry about the Porterweeds. They start readily from cuttings, so I seldom use seed, but I've never seen a volunteer seedling of the purple or the coral, and even with thousands of seed shed by a row of 4-5' tall blue, I only see an occasional seedling. I never see seed-eating birds in there, but it makes me wish we had Goldfinches down here. I always loved Goldfinches when I was growing up in Ohio, and Porterweeds seem like perfect seed plants for them!

Looking back over my list, I see a number of my "swap highlights" came from you, most particularly of which are the tuberosa-type Abelmoschus, which have been a "need to re-acquire" nagging at me for fifteen years or better. So THANK YOU for being part of this year's swap and offering such great seed!

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