Cottage Gardening forum: Seeds are Sprouting .... Chat # 7

 
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ImageLeBug
Feb 16, 2015 1:46 PM CST
Name: LeBug 6b
Greenville, In.
I can't even grow pansies even when I buy them I love them but they don't like my yard not sure if it's the sun they don't get or what, other full sun plants struggle here but they make it maybe with not as many blooms but they do make it Shrug! Good luck Chelle Big Grin

We have a bunch of snow today cleaned the walk off and put sheets on front porch after sweeping so the cats don't freeze to the concrete and a sheet on back porch so my dogs paws don't freeze to the concrete. I'd say we have about 4" so far suppose to hit 9".

Pitched some cat food out to the birds and what do I get for it a whole tree of Starlings ugh!!! My little Juncos out front are eating off of the dead flowers and weeds out front.

Tony my ( room mate) had a Dr.'s appointment. today drove all the way in town and the office was closed and it's so dangerous out tell me why these Dr.'s can not be there and not call everyone that has an appointment that day to tell them the office is closed if we didn't show up they would charge us anyway!
ImageArleneB
Feb 16, 2015 2:55 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
My bad, I think it's violas I was thinking of, not pansies!

ImageJonnaSudenius
Feb 16, 2015 3:33 PM CST
Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe
Finally I found out how my new camera works, so I can start with my new project: a database of seed pictures.
Will have to learn more about making super macro pictures from the really tiny seeds, but I think I can start with the pictures of the bigger seeds.
Please give me your comments.
Here is an example: Pulsatilla vulgaris
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ImageLeBug
Feb 16, 2015 4:04 PM CST
Name: LeBug 6b
Greenville, In.
Awesome job Jonna Hurray!
Imagestarlight1153
Feb 16, 2015 4:52 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Chelle Try some Arlene's way and in the dark and try some in the light. I have more pansy seed you can play with. It's like you having problems with Pansies the same as I have with Tithonia. Maybe this will be the year it grows for me. I feel your pain. Group hug
ImageArleneB
Feb 16, 2015 5:21 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
Great photos Jonna!
ImageBluespiral
Feb 16, 2015 6:46 PM CST
Jonna, your photos are extremely useful and am so glad you're doing this. I especially like the way you show increasing magnifications of a seed. Sometimes, as my eyes grow less sharp with age, etc., I find I can see something more clearly as a photo on my computer monitor, than I can directly with just my eyes.
My religion is simple. My religion is kindness. Dalai Lama
Imagechelle
Feb 16, 2015 7:18 PM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
starlight1153 wrote:Chelle Try some Arlene's way and in the dark and try some in the light. I have more pansy seed you can play with. It's like you having problems with Pansies the same as I have with Tithonia. Maybe this will be the year it grows for me. I feel your pain. Group hug


I tried the dark because I do the violas successfully that way and I thought the pansies would be the same, but now I'm convinced that the lack of light was my biggest issue.

Wishing you the best of luck with your tithonia endeavors!

Imageishareflowers
Feb 17, 2015 6:57 AM CST
Name: Lisa
Massachusetts zone 6
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Imageishareflowers
Feb 17, 2015 7:05 AM CST
Name: Lisa
Massachusetts zone 6
Star, did I see you ask about us folks in the North?

The above picture was taken moments ago from my picture window. The fence you see in the background is 6 feet! Grumbling Grumbling

They are calling for 3 to 6 more inches of snow today, I don't think I'll ever see green again!

I haven't started any seeds from the swap. I oinked for lots of vines and they are new to me so I am not sure when to start them. They may not be able to be planted until June and I'm sure seed saving to share this year will be tough. The growing season will be short no doubt.
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Mindy03
Feb 17, 2015 8:08 AM CST
Name: Margaret
Delta KY
I'm A Charley's Girl For Sure
Good morning
We are fine here just a little snow.
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For us the -4 and -8 temperatures coming tonight and tomorrow night will be the challenging part of this cold spell.
My husband is busy today making sure everything is wel insulated, animals fed good and road is as clear of snow as possible.
poisondartfrog
Feb 17, 2015 8:14 AM CST
Name: Alana
Kentucky
We had 2-3 inches of snow followed by rain and then freezing rain yesterday, ending with another 2-3 inches of snow. I should not say ending, exactly. It is snowing lightly now. So far so good, though. People are staying off the roads and although I have heard of a few power outages we seem to be okay. Record breaking low temperatures are coming, however. I've never been here or anywhere else when it has been as cold as it is about to be. Freezing pipes and cars that won't start seem to be the biggest threats coming up. I am hoping the snow cover will protect some plants, if not it will be a record year of losses. My white Lady Banks Rose was actively growing up until this week.
Poor Kobi. I have to push him out the door for his "bathroom breaks".
Imagetcs1366
Feb 17, 2015 10:24 AM CST
Name: Terese
Leesburg, FL zone9b
Wisconsin Dells Area, zone4
I can not recall the last time I saw 6' on the ground, much less piled at the side of the driveway [though I do recall 8-10' on the side of the drive]
~~ Another reason we moved to FLA.

the other worrisome though is... when it starts to melt, where does it all go??

The weather liars are saying we have to coldest weather of the season coming, I saw a 29° for one night, but I think it will only last 3 days.

I will probably corral all my little seedlings into an area next to the house and hope for the best.
Terese -- Leesburg, FL & Lake Delton, Wi
My Email is my userID at hotmail.com

Imagechristine00
Feb 17, 2015 10:54 AM CST
Name: christine
kentucky
we have about 8inches of snow here. am glad for it as forecast shows below zero temps this week yet Sticking tongue out
ImageJonnaSudenius
Feb 17, 2015 11:01 AM CST
Name: Jonna
Belgium, Europe
It's cold, light frosts during day harder frosts during night. I don't mind now, because a lot of seeds need the cold.
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ImageArleneB
Feb 17, 2015 12:04 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
I started more artichoke and rhubarb seeds on Saturday, Feb. 14. Today my 20 mo. old grandson brought me the container of rhubarb, upside down! When I tipped it back and looked inside, some seeds had already sprouted!

We cleaned out the greenhouse at the farm yesterday and removed some of the pavers in the center because there were two giant fire ant hills and they the pavers had collapsed. We sprinkled DE and will get more sand and replace them on Thurs. Then I want to move the brassica plants that are not huge, and my lettuce seedlings, over there. Looks like we're still over a week with temps in the 20s at night time so I haven't been able to get them in the garden yet. My greenhouse at home is overflowing so I have to do something soon as I have thousands more seedlings to pot up!
ImageLeBug
Feb 17, 2015 7:34 PM CST
Name: LeBug 6b
Greenville, In.
They said we got 6" yesterday but I took a walk around the back yard and the neighbors looking for my porch cat (he's in love going to be the death of him with it this cold) and I had snow up to the tops of my boots so I'm sure we had at least 8" didn't measure it too much to do. I wrapped him up in a small fleece blanket in his cat bed with a heat mat underneath and he stayed about an hour then gone again not to see him till just a few minutes ago he came home to eat and get warm again then he will be gone again.

We've got -7 coming tonite another record low we usually have these temps in January they said but I don't remember it being that cold for a long long time. Keeping the kitchen cabinet open hoping the pipes don't freeze and I have a little door to the pipes in my towel cabinet that I'm keeping open in the bathroom.

They say we are getting rain and snow Sunday I think just hopes it doesn't turn into freezing rain like yours Alana!

Believe it or not I had Bee Balm about 2" high the other day no telling what the snow has done to it. My daphs are starting to come up too!!! The Hellebores aren't blooming yet they used to bloom in Jan. last year it was Feb. but no signs of any blooms yet.
ImageSorellina
Feb 17, 2015 11:10 PM CST
Name: Julianna
Victoria, BC USDA Zone 8
Ciao all-

We're doing fine up here. Duane had a couple additional days off work due to extreme cold advisories. Yes, that happens even in frozen Canada. Sunday was the coldest day on record at Pearson Airport here in Toronto at -27C with a -40C windchill. Just hideous. We're just hunkering down and trying to find inside activities to stave off insanity. Duane got all of his peppers potted up, even the Annuums and I made chocolate ganache tarts with meringue hearts. Today, I got 2 largish plastic tubs and several small plastic tubs at Dollarama for all of my winter-sowing stuff. I'll be spending the next couple of days rounding up flower seeds that I'm thinking of starting and figuring out if I can winter-sow them. Can I put them outside now or do I need to wait until conditions aren't so hateful? Does it matter if it's really REALLY cold outside for this? I'm really hoping this experiment works since it means I will be able to grow so many additional flowers without requiring space under my light set-up inside.
Grazie a tutti,
Julianna
Imagechelle
Feb 18, 2015 5:39 AM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
Sorellina wrote: I'll be spending the next couple of days rounding up flower seeds that I'm thinking of starting and figuring out if I can winter-sow them. Can I put them outside now or do I need to wait until conditions aren't so hateful? Does it matter if it's really REALLY cold outside for this? I'm really hoping this experiment works since it means I will be able to grow so many additional flowers without requiring space under my light set-up inside.


I'm not altogether sure, but I'm waiting to put any more outdoors until temps start to move away from the sub-zero zone. Putting containers out from an indoor 70 degrees to an outdoor 32 degrees seems like it would be stressful enough, but to have an eighty+ degree drop, instantaneously, seems a bit too much like asking for trouble.

Imagestarlight1153
Feb 18, 2015 6:56 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
brrrr..brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. and brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Boy it is cold this morning. I'm at 22F and with 35mph winds all day long will probably stay around that temp from wind chill. I'm not looking forward to tomorrow or the next day. With wind chills tomorrow morning I'll be at 0F -10F. Gonna be a cold one and have to drip pipes for several days for sure. I'll be climbing the walls if my pipes freeze and I don't have my coffee all day long. That happens and I wil not be fit company even for myself. Hilarious!

Lisa Thanks for checking in. Big Grin Yep, I like to know everybody is ok. It's kinda like checking up on family members, except ya all the piggy family.

Just seen the morning world news. What a mess up North. Temps 40degrees below normal. All those accidents from hidden ice under the snow in KY and TN. Hope everybody in the arctic cold areas is able to stay home and safe.

Quoting:I'm not altogether sure, but I'm waiting to put any more outdoors until temps start to move away from the sub-zero zone. Putting containers out from an indoor 70 degrees to an outdoor 32 degrees seems like it would be stressful enough, but to have an eighty+ degree drop, instantaneously, seems a bit too much like asking for trouble.


I totally agree with you. Seeds can handle alot of different temps if they don't germinate. If they are not germinating, they are missing and ingredient needed. Maybe it is soil or water or temperature, but something missing will keep them in dormancy.

You take those containers with seeds and you have given them water, even though your mix may only be barely damp, it can be enough to cause a seed to germinate and with those extreme cold temps. The seedlings are going to freeze. You may not see where the radical (root) has emerged , the radical freezes and potential seedling dies even before germinating good.

Most of your plants aren't even going to attempt to do any growing when temps are at 40-50F. They will sit there and pout. For some it is a severe strain to try and stay alive and they will not grow properly or at all.

We do so dislike having to wait to try and get seed started and plants outside. We're gardeners. We want to see our blooms again and plants growing and flourishing. It's what makes us happy, but there won't be any happy smiles if your freeze your seed to death.

Too, folks need to be careful with starting seeds indoors. The other extreme is cooking your seeds to death so they don't germinate. You may be using a heat mat and have temps set at say 70F, but get a cheap kid's thermometer and actually stick it down into your soil to the bottom and see what the real temperature is. You containers are going to heat, especially the plastic and it will heat that soil up and you may just find your not at 70F, but 80F and that will cook your newly emerging seeds and their little new root. Especially if you have a lot of condensation building up on your lids. People sometimes forget that the condensation is building from the soil heating up. It's like giving your seeds a bath is scalding hot water.

It's well worth it to spend a couple of bucks and get a thermometer and test your containers and soil constantly. Especially if you have only like a few seeds of something rare or special to you, prepare you containers, put them on your heat mats or outside for winter sowing or where ever you plan to have them sprouting and leave the containers there for several days and than test the temp of soil. Do it in that area where the container is being kept. Don't bring your containers say from the outside inside, let sit on counter for several hours and than take a soil temp. Your readings will be worthless.

Once you take your readings and you can see that the soil temp is optimal for seed germination than plant your seed and set back to the germination site you have picked. Yes, it is an extra step and most folks are too impatient to do it. Your only taking a few extra days before sowing, but it really can help raise your germination rates and help you have a better chance of growing those few precious seeds.

Chelle I may have asked you and have forgotten, but what size netting are you buying from the store for row covers. Are you stitching the pieces all together? With the size you buy and use, how much of a ceiling space do you have under the cover?







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