Cottage Gardening forum: Seeds are Sprouting .... Chat # 7

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Feb 18, 2015 6:59 AM CST
Name: Alana
I did not do much but I am a little concerned about my wintersowing, too; never had anything out in this kind of cold.
Feb 18, 2015 7:05 AM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
starlight1153 wrote:

Chelle I may have asked you and have forgotten, but what size netting are you buying from the store for row covers. Are you stitching the pieces all together? With the size you buy and use, how much of a ceiling space do you have under the cover?

I don't use row cover anymore, Ella. Just the Tulle, straight off the bolt and cut to the length I need. If I'm reusing smaller pieces for a bigger run, I'll fold the end over the tunnel support and clothespin it to it.

Feb 18, 2015 7:11 AM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
Sorry! *Blush* I misread your post just a bit, Ella...but the gist of my reply is the same. I just use the Tulle over galvanized wire (I think it's 10 gauge but I'd have to look it up to be sure), about 20" high maybe(?) for raised covers, and rocks or soil to hold it loosely if it's just laying on top.
Feb 18, 2015 7:14 AM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
I'll see if I can find a picture when I get back in from doing chores. Brrr....not looking forward to going out there this morning, but it'll be way nastier this afternoon. Rolling my eyes.
Feb 18, 2015 8:07 AM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
Here we go.

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If you're doing in-ground rows, you won't need to cross the wire to make a tent, of course, but in a pot it just worked out better for me.
Feb 18, 2015 10:14 AM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity
It's been a mild winter here... The trees and crocus are flowering. Here's what the parsnips looked like a few minutes ago.

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I set the germination testing pots in the greenhouse a couple days ago. It's been below freezing at night, so some of the plants of some varieties got frozen... But some plants of some cold sensitive varieties unexpectedly survived. Here's an example of a bean plant that survived.

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I was most surprised by the fava beans. I think of them as frost tolerant, but they were very wilty. It appears that they didn't like the frost... Guess I'll be able to tell better later in the day.

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Feb 18, 2015 12:10 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
Awwwwwwww poor babies! Joseph.. If you have some pvc pipe laying around, make yourself a little high riser about a foot up and toss some plastic over it. It's like having a gh in a gh. it has made all the difference in the world for when I have tiny tots out in the cold.

You can take the plastic off during the day, so the plants don't get too much humidity and put back on at night. If I know I am going to have to leave the plastic on for several days, I hold back on moisture in the soil as the condensation that builds up during the day is usually enough to keep them from drying out.

Poison I hope your babies make it. I think if possible, I would bring them inside for a couple of days before the worst hits night. I think I heard your having record breaking snow and cold in your area for more than almost 40 or 50 years.

Chelle Thanks so much. Yep I meant tulle and couldn't think of the word. Thanks for the pic too. That a big help. Big Grin

I wish the wind would stop. Sounds like freight trains going by non stop outside. Winds brought a big hickory branch down on top of trailer, noise scared the beegibbers out of me. Went outside to make sure trailer was ok and glad I moved as another big branch off an Oak came crashing down. Think I am going to call the neighbor and see if I can park my vehicle in her yard. She has a big cleared driveway area. I love my trees, but sometimes they are a hazzard and I can't afford a new windshield.

Feb 18, 2015 12:13 PM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
You're welcome, Ella.

Feb 18, 2015 2:21 PM CST
Name: Lisa
Massachusetts zone 6
Alana, I'm sure your winter sowing will be fine!

My first few years, I didn't have a greenhouse and all my containers sat out in the 0/-10 temps here and MA. They were under 2 feet of snow for most of the winter and all sprouted just fine. I had more ws babies than I knew what to do with.
Feb 18, 2015 2:24 PM CST
Name: Alana
I took them in the greenhouse Ella. I have not fixed the heat yet but there won't be any wind. We'll see what happens. I'm considering it an experiment.
After this hideous cold spell tonight and tomorrow night on Saturday and Sunday temps will be back to just a little cooler than normal when we get up to 50 or so. I have never experienced a time when mail did not run but there has been none down my road in a couple of days. No newspaper either, Hilarious! A few inches of rain are expected for the weekend. I expect the snow melt and the rain will combine for another weather emergency. We are in a flood plain and it won't take much to push the Cumberland River out of it's banks and over roads and bridges.
I've been potting on seedlings and sowing a few seeds, but I think I am actually getting tired of it. Blinking For entertainment I started my old station wagon and truck to make sure the batteries were still strong. My truck is four wheel drive so I took it down my long long long driveway to see how the road was. I was met with a sheet of ice. I had to back up the hill and could not tell the ditch from the road because the snow had leveled everything off. What followed resulted in a missing side mirror and a profound gratitude when I made it back up the hill.
I hope all the piggies are safe and warm, but not frying pan warm.
Feb 18, 2015 3:23 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
Poison Glad it was just your mirror and a few dents. I know the guy on this morning news showed how pretty the snow was, brushed it aside and was using a pick ax to show that underneath was nothing but pure sheets of ice.

That's something I worry about besides piggies being without electric is those that have to work and be on the roads. The tv shows accident after accident not only with cars but big rigs too.

On the news I keep watching that big circle of ice that keeps hitting us everytime it rotates around. It doesn't seem to be shrinking at all. We supposed to get a bit warmer for Sat and Sun with rain. I really feel for Northern folks. Once this freezes moves through, they may have a few days to get to maybe 30F if they lucky and that frozen mess will be back around and hitting them again it looks like.

I don't blame the mail and newspaper folks for not delivering. Nothing so important as a life. Especially if the mail is bills. Whistling Hilarious! Now seeds, that may be a different story. Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing

I went yesterday to corner store to get a couple of staples. I was out of eggs and bread and cheese. I made another stop and didn't notice til I got home at my last stop somebody decided to open my car door and help themselves to my loaf of bread and bag of donuts. I really didn't need the bread. I can eat bologna and cheese roll-ups, but I sure was looking forward to that bag of chocolate donuts.

Wish they would have told me they was hungry, I would have got them some food. Surprised they didn' t take eggs and cheese too. Well, I hope a kiddie gets to enjoy the donuts anyways. Big Grin
Feb 18, 2015 3:32 PM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
Sorry about your truck, Alana.

Ella, that's just plain rotten! Although the choices made would almost make a body think that the hungry individual didn't have a way to cook the rest...makes ya wonder.

I just potted up my first batch of piggy babies today. I first had to hammer the frozen bag of medium to break it up into bucket-sized chunks, then hot water and a trip through the microwave to get it up to room temp... but I got several of each of these done. Salvia S. Jewel Red and Pink, Salvia Blue Angel and Succisa pratensis.


The house smelled like summer! Big Yellow Grin
Feb 18, 2015 3:47 PM CST
Name: barbara
We also got a foot of snow here but am glad since temps supposed to drop to zero! Mayb it'll protect the perennials some! Big Yellow Grin
Feb 18, 2015 6:29 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
Pretty rotten to steal your food Ella. It's no excuse but it must have been someone pretty hungry and no way to fix the eggs.

I know to most this doesn't sound cold, but we're expecting 18 tonight and 16 tomorrow night, then a bit warmer for the weekend. Then on Monday, night time temps back in mid 20s so I have to put of planting in the garden one more week.

David and I got about 300 more paper pots done so even though tomorrow won't be much over 30, it should be warm in the greenhouse so I'll work on potting up the rest of the lettuce plugs. I'll have to stack them on top of each other practically though! I have a whole bunch more flower seedlings to pot up too. More importantly, my tomato and peppers need to be potted up. At least then I can use the 72 trays to pot up some petunias. I planted a lot!

I planted more flowers Monday in vermiculite and some were already up! Felicia I remember for sure but I think there was something else too.

My Kablooms were potted up and doing pretty good. Still tiny but it looks like I've only lost one so far. Some of the seedlings were so tiny it looks like just a paper pot full of soil! (Portulaca and lobelias) Hilarious!
Feb 18, 2015 7:24 PM CST
Name: LeBug 6b
Greenville, In.
It's a shame Ella plus as cold as it is here people really shouldn't lock their car doors my car doors have been trying to freeze up even before we got these temps now and will get haven't opened them for a couple of days I may have to take the hair drier to them tomorrow getting ready for Betteys.

Sorry about your truck too Alana at least you are home and safe that's the important thing it had to be scary Group hug

More babies Hurray!
Feb 18, 2015 8:33 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
Arlene With the wind chill we gonna be way colder than that. Latest news I watched said we gonna be breaking cold temps from 1958. I just checked on my dripping pipes and they already had stopped dripping, so have the water turned up more. Will be checking all night long to make sure they keep dripping.

Ya, but at least they took mine and not somebody who really needed it for their family.

Barbara00 Good to see you and know you have power right now. Hope it holds for your. Thing is the snow may protect your plants, but I would be so worried when it all thaws that your plants would start to heave and maybe suffer big time that away. Sure hope not. Sad

Feb 18, 2015 9:24 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
Ella, I know! That wind today was awful too. I hope your pipes stay open for you. Pretty bad when this far south you have to worry about that!
Feb 18, 2015 11:06 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Michigan UP (Zone 4b or 5a)
Although I kind of envy the temps you southerners are having... there is such a huge difference in our below-zero "normal" winter temps and you all having freezing weather, like, for instance, my plants are all at least more or less suited to it! Stay safe, everyone, and take the road conditions VERY seriously!!

Ella, I hope it really was someone that was actually hungry that snatched your bread and donuts... at least it wasn't your bacon!! Whistling
"I am still learning"~~ Michelangelo
National Gardening Association
Feb 19, 2015 6:53 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
Morning folks! How we doing? How many of you are frozen cold this morning. Just watched morning news and areas they showed of frozen cold areas. So hoping everybody has power still or is able to get a warming station if not. I woke up to 9F with the wind. News said cold is even going to be worse tomorrow.

I hope everybody's babies survive this blizzard. When spring does eventually come, I am pretty sure it is going to take quite awhile for plants to wake back up. Some may have had their resting buds for this years growth frozen and killed, but if the roots stayed warm enough from all the snow, it will take awhile, but maybe alot of them will come back once they regrow some new sprouts and branches, but that can take months and months.

Weed I used to try and push the zones and was able to grow some of the more tropical type of plants, but after the blizzards and the loses last year, not not more. I'll just look at pics of folks pretty tropicals and dream. Too have a bit of snow would be great. At least it would insulate the plants.

How you FL folks doing? Looks like tomorrow all the way to Miami is going to be freezing. Somebody want to send me a ticket to the Caribbean for about a month with all expenses paid??? Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing I'd gladly take it.

It's not nice of them resort places to show pics of warm weather, blue tropical waters, sandy beaches and swimsuits when there is no way you can go. Just makes you feel even colder. Whistling Hilarious!

I have several rooms that have no heat in them. Temps are ranging in the 20's to low 30's. Weather way to violate to try and do any winter sowing outside, but am thinking of try to see what happens if I start some winter sowing containers and leave them in those rooms. Wonder if it would work or not. Confused

What are Klabooms? I have seen that word a couple of times. Sounds like the name for a kids toy. Hilarious!

Sometimes it's hard to watch when those what I call micro seedlings like Begonia, and Portulaca pop their heads up to catch them before they stretch. You almost do need a magnifying glass to tell when they ready to move to under lights.

Feb 19, 2015 7:04 AM CST
Name: Alana
It is just slightly below zero, -.6 degrees here this morning. I had to get behind Kobi's 75 pound butt and push to get him to go out for a quick break. He went only as far as he could maintain eye contact with me. Rolling on the floor laughing He is usually very private about that kind of thing.
Wonder how Andi is? Maybe I missed it but it seems as if she has been absent since the last storm hit PA.
It is not going to get above the mid-teens today if the forecast is correct, and colder tonight than last night. Yuck.
Pigs in a blanket, indeed.

Edited to add that Kabloom is the trade name for a series of Calibrachoa from seed.
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