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Weedwhacker
Apr 17, 2015 1:47 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Michigan UP (Zone 4b or 5a)
I was excited to find some sprouts in one of my vermiculite pop bottles today -- how fitting that they were some seeds that I got from Chelle, Cichorium intybus (Belgian endive), since she was where I first heard about using vermiculite! I intend to grow the "chicons" in the house next winter, but first have to grow the plants and then dig up the roots to bring in... Big Yellow Grin
"I am still learning"~~ Michelangelo
National Gardening Association
Imagejoseph
Apr 17, 2015 5:46 PM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity

I was disappointed that the tomatoes seemed to sail through the two days of snow.... Crying

They've had two good sunny days now to croak if they are going to... Unfortunately I'm preoccupied with family things for a few days and can't follow up. Sometimes cold damage doesn't show up immediately.
Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
Imagetcs1366
Apr 18, 2015 8:18 AM CST
Name: Terese
Leesburg, FL zone9b
Wisconsin Dells Area, zone4
Can Salvias be "rooted" just by sticking them back in the soil?

I'll explain later.... Just trying to save some of my plants.
Terese -- Leesburg, FL & Lake Delton, Wi
My Email is my userID at hotmail.com

ImageDanita
Apr 18, 2015 8:41 AM CST
Name: Danita
GA Zone 7b/8
Terese,
It depends on the species, but often you can. Be sure to include some nodes under the soil line as well as above. Some varieties do better if started in pots with good potting mix, but I've just shoved pieces I've pruned off of various forms of S. microphylla in the dirt and had them root (even when this was done in late winter and they experienced some frosts.) If the broken parts are wilting, put them in a glass of water first to rehydrate. Which varieties are we talking about?

Also, I usually cut off the very soft new growth at the very top. It has a hard time staying hydrated as a cutting. This also forces the plant to branch once rooted.

Hope everything is okay! Smiling
Imagetcs1366
Apr 18, 2015 9:00 AM CST
Name: Terese
Leesburg, FL zone9b
Wisconsin Dells Area, zone4
I was going to come in this morning and say how excited i was that Black & Blue was going to bloom today or tomorrow. I went outside and DH was trimming our Palms and he'd crushed Black and Blue, the Red Salvia and bent up my Spider Zinns... I tell ya, I had tears in my eyes. I was so angry. If he had told me he was starting I would have come out and make sure he didnt crush my plants.

for B&B, I took the 2 long pieces that snapped off and stuck them in some soil, and also for the tall red one.
Terese -- Leesburg, FL & Lake Delton, Wi
My Email is my userID at hotmail.com

ImageDanita
Apr 18, 2015 9:25 AM CST
Name: Danita
GA Zone 7b/8
I'm sorry, that stinks! Bad hubby! Crying

'Black and Blue' is as vigorous as mint, so it should root just fine. Be aware that it can get invasive in the garden here the South. Salvia coccinea should root well, too. If the pieces are really long, you may want to make a couple of cuttings from them since it can be hard for the cutting to transfer water that far. If they have flowers buds ready to open, then snip them off with some stem and put them in a bud vase to enjoy inside.

You can also root cuttings of Zinnias, according to "Zenman" (I believe that it who it was.)

Smiling
ImageMistirose
Apr 18, 2015 9:48 AM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
That sux TCS. I hope they reroot for you.

ImageMistirose
Apr 18, 2015 9:53 AM CST
Name: Misti
Fate, TX
Anyone have any watercress seed?
Weedwhacker
Apr 18, 2015 7:42 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Michigan UP (Zone 4b or 5a)
tcs1366 wrote:I was going to come in this morning and say how excited i was that Black & Blue was going to bloom today or tomorrow. I went outside and DH was trimming our Palms and he'd crushed Black and Blue, the Red Salvia and bent up my Spider Zinns... I tell ya, I had tears in my eyes. I was so angry. If he had told me he was starting I would have come out and make sure he didnt crush my plants.

for B&B, I took the 2 long pieces that snapped off and stuck them in some soil, and also for the tall red one.


Arrrgghhhh !! I swear, I hate for anyone else to even set foot in the garden... Hope those plants root for you, Terese!

"I am still learning"~~ Michelangelo
National Gardening Association
Mindy03
Apr 18, 2015 8:21 PM CST
Name: Margaret
Delta KY
I'm A Charley's Girl For Sure
. Hurray! finally got a sweet pea sprout.
poisondartfrog
Apr 19, 2015 6:46 AM CST
Name: Alana
Kentucky
Help piggies! Old lady pig having trouble remembering what she planted. The chickens have removed my tags in this bed. Seeds were sown last summer (piggy maybe?) I must have liked it because I planted several. The blooms are forming now in very pretty silvery whorls of foliage. Any piggy recognize this? My mind is refusing to cooperate.
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ImageDanita
Apr 19, 2015 7:42 AM CST
Name: Danita
GA Zone 7b/8
Alana, did you plant Lysimachia atropurpurea? That's what it looks like to me. Pretty!
http://allthingsplants.com/plants/photo/179158/
Smiling
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poisondartfrog
Apr 19, 2015 7:45 AM CST
Name: Alana
Kentucky
That's it. Thanks Danita for coming to the rescue!! I tip my hat to you.
ImageDanita
Apr 19, 2015 8:03 AM CST
Name: Danita
GA Zone 7b/8
Big Grin
Imagejoseph
Apr 19, 2015 9:14 AM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity

Here's what the tomatoes from the frost/cold tolerance test looked like this morning. This flat of tomatoes survived about a week of frosty weather, and then two days of snow. The frosty weather took out about 1/3 of the plants. Some varieties were much more susceptible than others... I didn't find enough damage after the snow to cull any of the plants.

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First Tomato Fruit of the Season!!! This is an F1 hybrid between DX52-12 and Ot'Jagodka.

DX52-12 is a near heirloom variety that was developed for my valley. It's a Moscow type. Determinate. 10 ounce fruits. Matures late in season. It has open flowers. The anther cone isn't fused tightly together...

Ot'Jagodka is my main production tomato. It is a saladette. Extremely early. Highly Determinate. The flowers are
typical industrialized flowers.

My goal with this project is to combine the open flower structure of DX52-12 with the high productivity and early season of Ot'Jagodka. It would also be nice while I'm at it, to select for fruit size mid-way between the two parents. Boo Hoo. Jagodka is quite sensitive to frost.

So when can I harvest and plant the seeds? When are the seeds viable? Today is the day I am scheduled to plant seeds for my field tomatoes... Suggested method? Ferment? Dry? Replant wet seed immediately?

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Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
Imagestarlight1153
Apr 19, 2015 6:49 PM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
What a day. Besides being on I think it is 12 straight days of rain, we had another tornado touch down a few miles down the road again. They getting to close for comfort round here. Come morning I'll go out and start seeing what damage we had from the winds today.

With all this rain and being so soaked, I wonder how many more trees are going to come down.

I know I'll be hitting the hardware store first thing in the morning if the rain has stopped to go get some Daconil. Two weeks of solid rain and the fungal diseases are going to go rampant.

Tcs So sorry to hear about your plants. I sure hope you are able to get them to root though it will take time.

Joseph I know you may be disappointed more plants didn't croak, but actually for somebody like me who knows we are going to get cold snaps, I would be wanting to buy those seeds. I wouldn't be racing around like a fool trying to cover plants up , plus surviving the cold for several days, I would be able to plant earlier.

I see many benefits for cold tolerant tomatoes for both North and Southern folks.

As far as the seed starting. I would ferment them even if it is just for 3 or 4 days. You'll get better germination results, plus you would need to ferment anyways to save the seed if you were going to plant later. I would ferment and then you could plant freshly fermented ones.

Sigh...Sigh... I wish I had some first fresh tomatoes of the season ready. Nice looking fruits. I won't ask you how they taste as you'll probably say it is a spitter. Rolling on the floor laughing Rolling on the floor laughing Maybe in a few months if it ever quits raining and we get some sun, I'll have some.
ImageSorellina
Apr 19, 2015 7:08 PM CST
Name: Julianna
Victoria, BC USDA Zone 8
Ella -

I sow 2 Runner Bean seeds per pole of the teepee trellis and I use 6 poles for my trellis. Then I wind garden twine at 8" intervals all the way up so it's a type of lattice for the beans to weave around.

I am happy to report that I finally have some sprouts in one of my closed system vermiculite tubs: Tuink's Flemish Antique Poppy!!! Hurray!

I gave all of the tubs with sprouts a good spritz with the water bottle before closing them up today. We're getting heavy rains with strong winds overnight and possible wet snow flurries on Thursday.

Saturday was an excellent day for doing work outside, however, with a high of 20C. I got all of my leeks and onions transplanted and my new celery bed is ready to plant, probably Friday. The seedlings are fine in this cold, but I'm not.

Tomatoes and basil will get potted up this week.
Grazie a tutti,
Julianna
Imagejoseph
Apr 19, 2015 8:27 PM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity

Thanks to whomever sent the Crimson Flowered Fava!

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Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
Weedwhacker
Apr 19, 2015 9:23 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Michigan UP (Zone 4b or 5a)
Star I saw there were pretty bad storms down your way, I hope you and everyone else in that area stays safe!!

We have rain/snow predicted for the next few days, but just showers, no biggie...

I have snow peas sprouted that are going to need to be planted, so depending on the weather I may need to do them in 6-packs and then put them out when the weather is better. Meanwhile, I have 12 flats of seeds under my lights, plus my WS jugs (with nothing sprouting as of yet), plus my vermiculite bottles with so far just chicory, pineapple sage and narrow-leaf echinacea sprouting. SO many more seeds still to plant... Blinking
"I am still learning"~~ Michelangelo
National Gardening Association
Imagejoseph
Apr 19, 2015 10:10 PM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity

I plant peas within a day or two of the winter snow cover melting. For me, that's about 10 weeks prior to the average date of our last spring frost. About the time the pussy willows or forsythia are blooming is perfect planting weather for peas in my climate.
Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse

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