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Weedwhacker
Apr 20, 2015 6:55 AM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Michigan UP (Zone 4b or 5a)
Joseph, have you already planted peas, then? or not yet? Our weather is just about as you described -- snow is finally pretty well gone (except a little where it was really piled up from snow-blowing, in shady spots) and the pussy willows are out. It's pretty rare that I can get out into the garden in April, usually just too wet (or still too snowy). We're having a little bit of rain this morning but it's probably a good thing, the fire danger was already getting pretty high here.
"I am still learning"~~ Michelangelo
National Gardening Association
Imagejoseph
Apr 20, 2015 8:24 AM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity

My shortest-season variety of pea is already flowering in my lowest elevation (warmest) field. The soup peas are about 9" tall today.

I typically plant peas about mid-March. I may have put them in earlier this year because the season has been a bit precocious.

The apple trees are already flowering... That's my signal that it's time for me to plant corn.
Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
Imagejoseph
Apr 20, 2015 9:04 AM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity

I plant my early crops into fall-tilled soil. My silty-clayish soil holds onto the winter moisture well, so I can't typically get it tilled soon enough in the spring to keep the cool-weather crops happy.
Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
Imagechelle
Apr 20, 2015 9:21 AM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
Your season is way ahead of ours, Joseph.

We're set for a really good weed growing week here; warmer soil, along with cool to cold temps, plenty of moisture and cloud cover, and wind. It'll be a ramp it back down and do just a bit of this and that kind of week, so I'll probably get more seeds sown during this time. I'm seeing a mind-boggling amount of seedlings from the direct sowings I did a month or so ago. The heaviest concentrations are in piles of last year's dead annuals soil and roots piles and those areas I topped off with compost at the end of last season. I scattered a lot of seeds, so I'll have to do a bunch of judicious thinning this year.

I'm going to try to get a second sowing of peas done today. My first batch was heartily enjoyed by the local wildlife. There's just one sprout showing right now in that area. Sticking tongue out No sign of lettuce seedlings yet, so I'd probably better sow more of those as well.

The one nice thing about this cool-down though, is that the daffodils and tulips will probably look better and last a little longer. It was actually getting too warm for them last week!

Lots of new penstemons up in my winter sowing containers. Hurray!

Alana, your Ice Plants have been out for a couple of weeks now, and look good!

Felicias look like they'll be wanting to flower soon, and they're not even planted out yet! I love those little plants...they grow so fast!
Weedwhacker
Apr 20, 2015 7:22 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Michigan UP (Zone 4b or 5a)
"Your season is way ahead of ours, Joseph."

Ditto! We had rain most of the day, if it's still raining tomorrow I'll have to take the pea seeds and plant them in some large 6-packs until I can get out and put them in the ground. I start most of my beans that way, so should work okay for the peas. I'm not going to complain about the rain -- it was getting pretty dry here (with no green growth yet to speak of), which means the fire danger was getting high. And there was several inches of snow in the western U.P., not all that far from us... Sticking tongue out

Lots going on in your garden already, Chelle! Thumbs up
"I am still learning"~~ Michelangelo
National Gardening Association
ImageArleneB
Apr 20, 2015 9:01 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
So, I talked to a friend whose a vendor at market and he makes soap, so I asked him if he ever made jewelweed soap and he said he has been looking and looking for jewelweed. Hmm, I got seeds in the piggy swap and I want some soap...so I decided I'd better get them planted and planted them I did today, in vermiculite.

Later of course I see a thread somewhere (probably on ATP) about them needing cold stratification and I probably should have winter sowed them. Grrrr! I did it again! I'm going to give them a week and if nothing pops up I'll refrigerate for a couple of weeks.

Anyone else grow it from seed? Any suggestions for me? I still have more seeds. See, at least I got smart finally and set some back. BTW, the extra seeds are in the freezer.

I started to do an inventory of my seedlings. Way more survived than I thought. I need to get busy and plant them out but like Ella, we are soggy to the bones here. Hopefully the rain has passed and we can get on with things.

Joseph, I have my Jagodka tomatoes planted in the garden already and they are loaded with blossoms. No fruit yet though.
Imagejoseph
Apr 20, 2015 10:26 PM CST
Name: Joseph
Cache Valley Great Basin
Landrace: locally-adapted diversity
ArleneB wrote:Joseph, I have my Jagodka tomatoes planted in the garden already and they are loaded with blossoms. No fruit yet though.


Woo Hoo! In my garden, Jagodka is 6 weeks from flowers to ripe fruit.

Author of Mother Earth News Blog about Landrace Gardening: http://www.motherearthnews.com/search.aspx?tags= Lofthouse
Imagechelle
Apr 21, 2015 5:25 AM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
ArleneB wrote:So, I talked to a friend whose a vendor at market and he makes soap, so I asked him if he ever made jewelweed soap and he said he has been looking and looking for jewelweed. Hmm, I got seeds in the piggy swap and I want some soap...so I decided I'd better get them planted and planted them I did today, in vermiculite.

Later of course I see a thread somewhere (probably on ATP) about them needing cold stratification and I probably should have winter sowed them. Grrrr! I did it again! I'm going to give them a week and if nothing pops up I'll refrigerate for a couple of weeks.

Anyone else grow it from seed? Any suggestions for me?



Since they're big annuals that are sprouting here already I'm not sure that you'd have time now to give a long enough cold stratification, Arlene. I'd think that they'd require at least 3 to 4 weeks, but that's just a guess.
Maybe add moist vermiculite to the freezer packet and move it to a visible spot in the fridge? Shrug! If your first batch is in a closed container maybe just leave it in a safe and shady place until next year, if nothing happens this year. (I have a lot of 2014's winter sown containers sprouting this year.)

Imagestarlight1153
Apr 21, 2015 7:05 AM CST
Name: starlight1153 Zone 8a/b
AL.
Brrr.......... Stepped outside and took the trash out and am back in my sweats and and a light weight jacket. Hopefully no rain today, but they weren't kidding about a cold front moving in.

I finally got to get the special Okra I have planted. Sure hope it can be planted deeper as it did do a bit of stretching while under the plastic to keep it from being shredded by the storms. Anybody happen to know for sure if it can or not?

I have the Salvia Forest Fire and Salvia Pink shades to try and transplant today and tons more of tomatoes to do and sort through what needs the sick bay.

I think the Zinnias are all toast. They do not like wet feet and leaves and two weeks of it and they looking not so hot. Will probably have to toss and resow them. I don't think even spraying them will keep them from molding.

Does anybody happen to have a picture of know of an easy way to tell Rubeckia Goldstrom leaves from assorted Echinacea leaves? Tags are gone and I have no idea now which is which the leaves look so closely the same and I am hoping I won't have to wait til fall blooming to find out who is who.

Weeds Peas do fine for a little bit in 6 packs. We sell 6 packs of snow peas. There are a lot of folks that just like to eat the plants when smaller. Must taste pretty good if kids enjoy them.

Thanks Sorellina Boy these things sure grow fast. Just in the past couple of days they have grown almost another 6 inches. Do you happen to know how big their root systems will get. I'm going to have to put them into bigger pots and put up against the tied together poles. I'm wondering if a one gallon pot will be big enough or will I need a two gallon?

Danita My Salvia Cherry Queen seeds that I grew from you a couple of years back. This year they finally looking really good. I kept them under some cheese clothed gh during the winter and they didn't lose a whole lot of leaves or turn purple on me. Can't wait to see them bloom this year. They should look really pretty. Big Grin

Still so many seeds to want to do and so little time it seems. (sigh)







Imagechelle
Apr 21, 2015 7:42 AM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
Arlene, I just checked my yard and the Impatiens pallida I direct sowed two years ago are up. Nothing yet in those areas I sowed with fresh pallida and capensis seed last fall. These really are looking more and more like a two years to germinate type of plant.
Imagechristine00
Apr 21, 2015 7:58 AM CST
Name: christine
kentucky
star the rudbeckia usually have tiny hairs on the leaves, so maybe you can tell apart that way Shrug!
Imagewildflowers
Apr 21, 2015 10:17 AM CST
Name: Christine
Northeast Texas, Zone 7b
Arlene, I've been trying to grow Impatiens capensis for years too!! But apparently I've been too impatient to grow these Impatiens! Hilarious!

Chelle is right about the double-dormacy required for them to germinate.

This site says they need a cold moist period followed by a warm moist period and then another cold moist period before dormacy can be broken. Or, at least two years. https://www.prairiemoon.com/seeds/wildflowers-forbs/impatien...

Now I wish I would have gotten some seeds out for wintersowing because I'm wondering if our fluxuating temps would have worked.
FAITH over fear!

Imagechelle
Apr 21, 2015 10:46 AM CST
Name: Michele Roth
N.E. Indiana
I'm also seeing that they prefer the blackest, richest and most compost-y soil we have, so I'd say they're heavy feeders as well. Seedlings in my pampered-plants hugel bed are much larger and farther along than the ones tossed in moist, nutrient-rich but heavy clay.
ImageSorellina
Apr 21, 2015 11:49 AM CST
Name: Julianna
Victoria, BC USDA Zone 8
Ciao all-

Raining here and expecting a mix of rain and snow on Thursday. Onions and celery should do just fine.

Joseph, yay on the Crimson-Flowered Fava!! You got those from me. I'm going to try to get those sown this week behind the celery. I need to re-build my seed supply of those and also the Purple Magnolia Snap Pea.

Ella, the bigger the container, the better if you have it. Legumes don't have super huge root systems like tomatoes and eggplants, but I'd go with the 2 gallon pots. Also, they like cooler weather, so down south, they might grow better in dappled sunlight. Runner Beans are very popular in England. Speaking of England, it's the Queen's birthday today!

I managed to get all of my tomatoes potted up today. I have room for 60 and somehow, everything worked out almost perfectly this year. I sowed a few extra and a few didn't germinate, so I should be able to accommodate all of them. The eggplants are growing nicely and basil should get potted up this week sometime.

My herbs are a little late this year due to the winter-sowing adventures. Next year, I will make sure to have lots of containers with cut out lids ready to go when I need them. I was poking holes and cutting out lids as I went this time and quickly became aware that I had hugely under-estimated the number of containers I would need. Sad
Grazie a tutti,
Julianna
ImageArleneB
Apr 21, 2015 12:06 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
So I'm not going to get any jewelweed soap this year then. Hilarious! I'll pot the vermiculite containers into the freezer for at least a month. Then I'll leave them outside and WS them this coming winter and see what happens. The seeds in the freezer already I'll take out late summer and WS them. We'll see. Maybe I can direct sow some this fall.

I was sowing more seeds this morning as well. I lost all my basil so I redid some of that and thyme, sage and oregano. I know I'm late on them. And some flowers. So many seeds and so little time!
plantnutz
Apr 21, 2015 12:47 PM CST
Name: Brenda
7b
Arlene

What do you need to make soap from jewelweed? Leaves, stems? I have thousands of plants coming up. I have found they don't transplant or transport well but if just the plant components would work, I sure I could supply them.

Does anyone know the name of this:Thumb of 2015-04-21/plantnutz/c89fff

I think it is a type of ground orchid but for some reason I keep missing the bloom. I think it is white but I'm not positive. I got it from Mary Chastain of Lakeside hosta fame.
ImageArleneB
Apr 21, 2015 1:17 PM CST
Name: Arlene
Grantville, GA
Brenda, I'm not sure. Let me check it out and get back to you. Thanks!
ImageDanita
Apr 21, 2015 1:57 PM CST
Name: Danita
GA Zone 7b/8
Brenda,
Maybe a Calanthe species, such as Calanthe discolor?

I think this piggy is evolving gills from all the rain. Sticking tongue out
The sun is actually out today, though! Hurray!
plantnutz
Apr 21, 2015 2:04 PM CST
Name: Brenda
7b
Danita

I think you got it! Thanks!
Weedwhacker
Apr 21, 2015 9:49 PM CST
Name: Sandy B.
Michigan UP (Zone 4b or 5a)
and what is the purpose of the Jewelweed soap? is it anti-poison ivy? or just soap in general?
"I am still learning"~~ Michelangelo
National Gardening Association

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